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British Museum person or institution ID
identifier for a person or institution in the British Museum person-institution thesaurus

Description	Identifier in British Museum person-institution thesaurus (Q18785969)
Associated item	British Museum (Q6373)
Applicable "stated in" value	British Museum person-institution thesaurus (Q18785969)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	According to this template: persons, institutions, deities, etc According to statements in the property: human (Q5), organization (Q43229), character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598) or fictional character (Q95074) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	[1-9][0-9]{0,5} (numeric string,1 to 6 digits)
Example	Rembrandt (Q5598) → 43386 Judy Garland (Q11637) → 28415 British Red Cross (Q4970966) → 87742
Source	https://collection.britishmuseum.org/resource?uri=http://collection.britishmuseum.org/id/person-institution&role=object
Formatter URL	https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1711 (Q45405657)
Related to country	United Kingdom (Q145) (See 329 others)
See also	British Museum place ID (P3633), British Museum thesaurus ID (P3632), CofE archives name ID (P9485)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P1711 Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 50,565 Main statement 43,669 86.4% of uses Qualifier 3 <0.1% of uses Reference 6,893 13.6% of uses
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Format “[1-9][0-9]{0,5}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: National Bank of Angola (Q31211), Isabella of Austria (Q157884), Federico Zuccaro (Q345605), Gorham Manufacturing Company (Q48386771)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Type “human (Q5), organization (Q43229), character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598), fictional character (Q95074)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), organization (Q43229), character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598), fictional character (Q95074)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711#Type Q5, Q43229, Q21070598, Q95074, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1711#Scope, SPARQL

URL change

The URL pattern for this seems to have changed - the old https://collection.britishmuseum.org/id/person-institution/... form doesn't work, but embedding it in a search as https://collection.britishmuseum.org/resource/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcollection.britishmuseum.org%2Fid%2Fperson-institution%2F... does. I've switched the URL in the property values. Andrew Gray (talk) 20:35, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

URL and ID # Change

It looks like not only has the URL changed (format now: https://britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/search.aspx?people=$1), but the numbers also changed. So, to use Rembrandt as the main example again, his BMT ID is currently listed as 43386. If you plug that into the new URL format, you get nothing. Rembrandt's BMT number is now actually 110150. Is there any way to nuke all the current links to this property and start over with a new Mix 'n' Match or something? --Lexid523 (talk) 19:50, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I would be happy to, except I can't figure out how to get a complete list from them. This looks promising, but I don't have the bandwidth to learn their data model. --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Twitter account for BM sparql endpoint status

@bm_lod_status reports whether the endpoint is currently up or down. Jheald (talk) 13:22, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

New BM site -- IDs now connect to main BM site !

After years when these IDs went nowhere, the BM has now activated a new site using these IDs !!

New URLs are of the form Rembrandt (Q5598) -> https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG43386 where the final digits correspond to the ID numbers we have. Jheald (talk) 21:05, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Potential corrections and anomalies

• BM BIOG199220 represents the son of Louis II, Duke of Bavaria (Q61467) as depicted in BM print Bb,8.403. However, despite the print naming him as Ludwig and alluding to Ludwig's death at Nuremberg, on the strength of which we have identified the bio with Ludwig of Bavaria (Q104097704), the BM bio entry labels him as "Heinrich XIII" -- apparently for Henry XIII or I Duke of Bavaria (Q61154).

The identification of some of the other figures in the print is also faulty. Louis II, Duke of Bavaria (Q61467) and Maria of Brabant, Duchess of Bavaria (Q225116) are given as they should be; but {{Q|163551) is given instead of Anna of Glogau (Q2797080) for Ludwig's second wife, and Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia (Q158252) instead of Elizabeth of Hungary, Duchess of Bavaria (Q671707) [?] for the younger Ludwig's wife. (The younger Ludwig was actually married to Isabelle of Lorraine (Q22328258) -- but the latter may be confused by the printmaker). Jheald (talk) 12:27, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Dowdeswell

The BMT item Charles Walter Dowdeswell seems to have conflated the father Charles William Dowdeswell (Q98245729): English dealer and frame-maker 1832-1915 [dates] and son Walter Dowdeswell (Q119920349): British art dealer (1858-1929) [name, Whistler connection]. Do we have a contact at BMT? - PKM (talk) 01:19, 25 June 2023 (UTC)