Property talk:P658

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tracklist
audio tracks contained in this release
DescriptionTracklist of the album. Every track must have: title, music composer(s), lyric composer(s), featuring (if needed), duration, ...
Representstracklist (Q1323413)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: album (Q482994)
According to statements in the property:
audio release (Q115669410), sample library (Q7410139) or release group (Q108346082)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesmusical work (Q2188189) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleThe Dark Side of the Moon (Q113085483) → Speak to Me (Q113087425)
Breathe (Q113087816)
On the Run (Q113088011)
Time (Q64364332)
The Great Gig in the Sky (Q113088068)
Money (Q113088091)
Us and Them (Q64364532)
Any Colour You Like (Q113088127)
Brain Damage (Q113088183)
Eclipse (Q113088223)
Massachussets / Don’t Forget to Remember (Q908921) → Massachusetts (The Lights Went Out In) (Q58461943)
Don't Forget to Remember (Q58856819)
Sourcew:it:Template:Tracce (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P658 (Q126375141)
See alsosetlist (P9793)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total51,740
Main statement51,724>99.9% of uses
Qualifier13<0.1% of uses
Reference3<0.1% of uses
Search for values
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Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P658#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P658#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Value type “audio track (Q7302866)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value audio track (Q7302866) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P658#Value type Q7302866, SPARQL
Item “number of parts of this work (P2635)”: Items with this property should also have “number of parts of this work (P2635)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P658#Item P2635, SPARQL
Property “title (P1476)” declared by target items of “tracklist (P658)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “title (P1476)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P658#Target required claim P1476, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Property “performer (P175)” declared by target items of “tracklist (P658)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “performer (P175)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P658#Target required claim P175, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)

P527

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What about has part(s) (P527)? That's the hyper-property of this tracklist (P658), as far as I can tell. However P658 looks like a partition, which should be used only when listing any and all tracks of a release; while P527 could be used even for a subset of them, e.g. if not all of them have an item (see also Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Music#Songs). Correct? Federico Leva (BEIC) (talk) 18:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse?

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What is the 'reverse' property, thus for specifying the album a song appears on? part of (P361) ? Michiel1972 (talk) 17:44, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Music has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. I second this question. Runner1928 (talk) 20:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are 2 other possibilities: part of the series (P179) and published in (P1433). --Infovarius (talk) 18:38, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On qualifiers to this property

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I have several questions and comments about potential qualifiers to this property. For reference, I have added some of them to Thriller (Q44320). WikiProject Music has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead.

Mahir256 (talk) 16:53, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mahir256, I'm also thinking about a way to model informations related to the performance/recording of popular music. I started a discussion at WikiProject_Music. Beat Estermann suggested there [1] to create an own item for each recording and link this item via P658 to the release (album or single). What do you think about that approach? (I would centralize the discussion there).

As to performer (P175):

  • I would keep the information about the original performer on the song item. To see the song as independent from the performance would be suitable for works of classical or folk music without an original performer, but not really for works of popular music, where the original performer is often (always?) considered as an important constituent of the work (e.g. songs sung by Elvis are called "song by Elvis" even though he didn't write them).
  • As to cover versions: In my opinion there should be an own item for a cover version, linked to the original version via based on (P144) modified version of (P5059) (see Hurt (Q1142043) (Nine Inch Nails) and Hurt (Q51448159) (Johnny Cash) as an example). The cover version would be a derivative work (Q836950), not just a performance. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 11:56, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Edit: I changed the property from based on (P144) to modified version of (P5059): I think this property expresses best that a cover version is not a completely new work (it has no own composer or lyricist) but also not a mere performance.. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:17, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

value-requires-statement constraint with performer

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This property has value-requires-statement constraint with performer. But not all item has performer with example for track with instrumental. So, I think this constraint should be depricated. Please let me know your opinions. 2400:2200:686:A8F9:D92C:E777:726D:165 10:48, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may add instrumentalists via performer (P175), too. If there is really no performer involved at all you can use special value <no value>. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 12:41, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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