Wikidata:Property proposal/Pandektis ID

Pandektis ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Pandektis ID (P9278) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for an entity in the collections of the Greek website Pandektis
Represents	Pandektis (Q105114652)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	[1-9]\d*
Example 1	Theodoros Afendoulis (Q12877921) → 131352
Example 2	Portrait of Georgios Glarakis (Q80371215) → 65094
Example 3	Michael Damaskinos (Q718276) → 163803
Source	http://pandektis.ekt.gr/pandektis/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Mix'n'match (at least for some parts)
Number of IDs in source	tens of thousands
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://pandektis.ekt.gr/pandektis/handle/10442/$1
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Greece

Motivation

Geraki Drspiros Sp!ros Cadm971 Epìdosis JBradyK Jimkats Magnus Manske (talk)

Notified participants of WikiProject Greece High-quality database about Greek history and civilizations; the collections "Greek Painters after the Fall of Constantinople" and "People employed in Further, Secondary and Primary Education (19th c.)" can hopefully be particularly useful. Epìdosis 11:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

• I would initially support (yes, pandektis is a very useful database), but let's dig a little more on this: these are not really identifiers but essentially a vague url structure which mixes artists, works of art, and even more such as settlement name changes [1] No mention of any identifier in the page itself. Probably described at URL (P973) would be sufficient for any purpose. --Geraki (talk) 09:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

  @Geraki: I agree about the choice of having the same URL structure for all types of entities (persons, works of art, places etc.) being disappointing; however, considering that the URLs are stable (I've found no hint of the contrary), having a dedicated ID is still better as it allows checks on the status of our matches through constraint violations and queries. --Epìdosis 11:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

•  Support I have checked. to me the urls seem stable. Also, converting a removed ID into a "described at url" if the url architecture is changed in an homogeneous way is not complicated. The web page are full of useful information for referencing statement.--Alexmar983 (talk) 13:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)e
• @Epìdosis, Geraki, Alexmar983:
  Geraki Drspiros Sp!ros Cadm971 Epìdosis JBradyK Jimkats Magnus Manske (talk)
  Notified participants of WikiProject Greece  Done as Pandektis ID (P9278). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 07:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
•  Support Sp!ros (talk) 08:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
•  Support Cadm971 (talk) 22:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)