Talk:One Direction

Membership list

Re-adding Liam's name in the band members section

Liam's name was removed after his demise. I would like to re-add his name as he will always be a part of One Direction Anshika Airi (talk) 07:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I think he should be added back aswell as he never said he left the band like zayn did. Ashleigh Phillips (talk) 13:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I think all members should be listed as past members considering the band has disbanded. I'm using The Beatles page for reference, in which some members are dead and alive yet all are listed as past members. Carolineovo (talk) 17:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Totally 💯 agreed. It doesn’t make sense otherwise at all as they’re all past members ? Page defo needs updating. 2A02:C7C:E40F:5500:5567:74AB:1B1B:AD5C (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Totally 💯 agreed. It doesn’t make sense otherwise at all as they’re all past members ? Page defo needs updating. Who on earth is editing the page 🤔 please put Liam on the same list as the other 1D members - can still put his years active on. I’m an older lady and not really a mega fan but this is just wrong & so insensitive… Asperfemale (talk) 23:06, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I believe the difference is that Zayn bought his way out. I don't recall the details, but it was in the legal sense. The others technically never officially stopped being members even if the band is inactive.

It might just be down to semantics though. Starklinson (talk) 10:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2024 (4)

Change were it says past members were liam payne is to liam oayne(dead) 90.138.155.68 (talk) 16:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: That's not generally how people are listed on WP. PianoDan (talk) 17:31, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Zayn Didn’t die. 83.132.220.64 (talk) 20:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

no he left the band DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Zayn still alive but departed/left from the band thus now a past member. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 20:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2024 (6)

I don’t think it’s fitting to have both Liam and Zayn under past members with no indication of liam’s passing included. While factually correct, I find it to be misleading and lacking taste. I think using parentheses to say, “Liam(deceased),” may work better. 2601:805:8200:E340:3C8B:106B:DEA7:A1B7 (talk) 21:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add Liam Payne as Amber instead of past member 81.178.100.38 (talk) 21:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 22:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2024

The band have not been together since 2016, and therefore all members should be moved to the "Past members" section. 2A02:C7C:9238:D400:DDF0:17F0:E1B2:826B (talk) 11:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: This is under discussion below. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2024 (2)

change: 'Past members Niall Horan Zayn Malik Liam Payne Harry Styles Louis Tomlinson'

to 'Members Niall Horan Zayn Malik Liam Payne Harry Styles Louis Tomlinson'

removed 'past' in 'past members' because they are still part of one direction whether they left or died they still make up who one direction are. Could put (deceased) next to Liam as an indication to his death. Keyboardwarrior1D (talk) 14:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

@Keyboardwarrior1D:  Not done: This is under discussion above. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:20, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Now "below". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Members list

I request you to kindly add Liam's name back to members list as he never left the band it was just very unfortunate that he is here no more so it is very disrespectful in his name to be removed from members list. Change it from active members to just members 🙏 Sak1d(Taylor's version) (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 October 2024 (2)

Liam Payne: change from past members to members.

If you’re gonna say past members, FORGET IT! The band split up in 2016. In fact, say “were” instead of “are.” That’s so messed up! 2601:246:8202:5D00:880C:35A6:FD51:F9B7 (talk) 23:57, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 12:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Please see the ongoing discussion. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 October 2024 (2)

Liam Payne shuld be included as member Rebecadelmolino (talk) 09:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

 Note: Please see the ongoing discussion above. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 18:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 November 2024

change Liam Payne to Liam Payne (deceased) 2001:14BB:CA:D06A:9141:1A57:D746:BD1E (talk) 01:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done See "Band members" section. HorrorLover555 (talk) 13:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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Liam Payne is not a "past member". He didnt leave One Direction, he died. Fix it. 2A02:AA1:1043:BBFE:2CE6:E04C:5519:79AC (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

•  Not done. Your apparent viewpoint that dead people are still members of musical groups is not widely shared. The media don't support you in this folly. Binksternet (talk) 20:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2024

Remove the last sentence of the History section: "However, he had mended fences with his members by 2023, and even met with Horan shortly before his death.[172]". Neither part of this sentence is supported (or mentioned) in reference [172]. If not prepared to remove, then a different citation is needed. SafetyDance151 (talk) 08:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 09:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Can you please let Zayn and Liam be seperated, like they left in different ways yk, pls, liek write (deceased) or sth Amelia1d (talk) 11:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

 Already done by another user. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 11:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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History "One Direction were the last contestant" ...Were the last contestants, surely? 81.105.46.48 (talk) 14:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

"Was" or "is" again

One Direction has not meaningfully existed as a group for over 8 years. I know that editors have historically argued that "indefinite hiatus" does not mean that the band has broken up, but they seem to be broken up for all practical intents and purposes. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Especially with the current discussion about whether Liam should be moved to "Current members". Tragically, he cannot be a current member because he passed away. That said, it doesn't seem like there are any current members of 1D, and as their hiatus was officially announced, I think it makes most sense to structure the article as if the project is not active (past tense, showing membership by year range instead of "current"/"former", etc). Thesixthstaff (talk) 17:12, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I've moved all members to "past members" Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:26, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

RfC: Band status and members in the infobox

There are two questions:

1. Should One Direction be described in the past tense ("was", "were", rather than "is")
2. Should all members be listed as past members in the infobox or just Zayn Malik and Liam Payne?

Hemiauchenia (talk) 11:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Responses

• Past tense and all listed as past members. It's been 8 years, for all important intents and purposes One Direction is broken up (there has been essentially no group activity over this entire time period), and the Wikipedia article should reflect that. Hemiauchenia (talk) 11:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Hemiauchenia if there's no official statement about the status, then let it be members and past members Kayanad (talk) 15:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  Per US Weekly, the band reportedly split up several months after the "indefinite hiatus" began [1] Wikipedia is not a WP:CRYSTALBALL, and the article can be changed to "is/are" if the band ever reunites. EDIT: NME article from 2023 says that 1D have not formally discussed a reunion, and consistently described all 5 as "former members" [2] Hemiauchenia (talk) 04:32, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Agree See the wikipedia - Jonas Brothers in 2018 as an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jonas_Brothers&oldid=870618849 14.0.153.120 (talk) 14:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

  This isn't a simple yes/no question. Which proposal are you agreeing to? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

• Agree per above Thesixthstaff (talk) 20:01, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Thesixthstaff: This isn't a simple yes/no question. Which proposal are you agreeing to? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  these were a reply. someone changed it into bullet point / list. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 09:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  If you check edit history, my feedback was in reply to Hemiauchenia. Not sure why someone messed with the threading. Thesixthstaff (talk) 11:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

• Given the fact that the five members have pursued solo careers and the band is no longer active after 2016. As the infobox shows years active 2010–2016, regardless of Malik's departure and Payne's death, it is clear that there is no activity going on for this band; the first sentence at least must not use present tense to cause confusion to readers and a contradiction in between the history section and infobox. Also, please remove the indefinite hiatus footnotes from the infobox or avoid using the word hiatus when there is no reunion or resumption yet. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 23:14, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

  @14.0.158.69 but if there's no official statement about the band status, let it be a member and past member One direction has not disbanded yet. Kayanad (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  I would suggest the lede to be written:

  One Direction, often shortened to 1D, were an English-Irish pop boy band formed in London in 2010. The group consisted of Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, Liam Payne, and Zayn Malik. They became one of the best-selling boy groups of all time until their break-up following Malik's departure in 2016.

  Just replace all the word hiatus to break-up; it is what it is.

  Hiatus only be used to describe when the band actually resume after a pause. (see Weezer and Jonas Brothers)

  For One direction even Fifth Harmony, it is not appropriate to make a assumption right now. per WP:FUTURE.

  Here's an reminder regarding Payne's death for Editors:

  On this wikipedia, the subject is the band One Direction, Payne's death is not part of the band history, anything about him, please go to his own biography page. we should be focusing on writing one direction as a band, as the main subject between 2010 and 2016 only (not individual). Just briefly mentions payne's death in the Legacy section and Band members section. 14.0.175.205 (talk) 20:10, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

• Past tense and all listed as past members - same as Hemiauchenia‘s reasoning. Theknine2 (talk) 12:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
• Past tense and all past members, but note I have nothing rooted in Wikipedia's guidelines to support my opinion. I just think it's the right thing to do. Liam's death makes it all the less likely 1D will ever re-form, anyway. mftp dan ^oops 22:54, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
• Past tense and all past members per Hemiauchenia. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
• Past members Sources call all the members "former members" and presenting One Direction as a trio in the infobox or the lead is not accurate. Miklogfeather (talk) 07:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Miklogfeather yes, it's accurate, there's no official statement about the status Kayanad (talk) 15:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  Since One Direction are not publicly active, listing the "current" members would only be an assumption. The article can be updated to whatever a statement says if and when it's released, but for now I think they should be listed as past members as they are described by sources. Miklogfeather (talk) 22:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

• Past tense and all listed as past members: as per above. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 08:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Like Fifth Harmony which is also on indefinite hiatus, keep those still part of the band separate from former members. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  Both band is inactive as a matter of fact; we shouldn't be using the word hiatus (lit. 'A temporary absence from the public or the mainstream.') to describe both, as we cannot predict whether they will have a comeback in the future. Per WP:CRYSTALBALL. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 09:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  @14.0.158.69 we can't predict it, but at least there's still a chance for them?? remember backstreet boys Kayanad (talk) 15:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  Currently they are not, then don't call it a hiatus for One Direction for now. Use the word breakup then. Simple. 14.0.175.205 (talk) 20:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  I think they ought not have it as they do, either, for the record. But that is a discussion for another time. mftp dan ^oops 13:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: I mostly agree with describing it in the past tense. But how do we draw the line on hiatuses? Liam's death might eliminate the chance of a reunion, but, before that, what would be the difference from another band like Radiohead for example? Both have been inactive for years and their members became involved with other projects Lucafrehley (talk) 21:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  We know that Radiohead reunited for rehearsals, and sources don't call the band members "former members" or "former bandmates" like for One Direction, so I'd say if up-to-date sources most commonly describe the band or all the band's membership in the past tense, and there's no evidence of activity, it should be written so on Wikipedia. Miklogfeather (talk) 22:33, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

  The indefinite hiatus would go toward a one direction of a lifetime and beyond. Let's not face it — Everything that has a beginning comes to an end. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 00:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Present tense and only Zayn Malik and Liam Payne listed as past members. I would like to shift the focus of this discussion away from non-policy-based arguments. If we want to say that they have broken up permanently, then Wikipedia policy requires a source which explicitly says this. This discussion needs to be based on an analysis of reliable sources, but thus far, no one has provided or analyzed any sources.
  The official word in August 2015 was that the band was not splitting up: see this NYT article quoting a tweet from Niall Horan and Louis Tomlinson. However, I was recently reading Liam Payne's obituary in The New York Times, and it actually does state directly: But in January 2016, the band split, Us Weekly reported. That Us Weekly article cites an anonymous source: Five months after announcing they would begin an extended hiatus in March, One Direction’s Louis Tomlinson, Niall Horan, Liam Payne and Harry Styles will split, a source close to the British boy band reveals in the new issue of Us Weekly. If it is true that the band split in 2016, I'm pretty surprised that we missed this, so I looked back in the talk page archives, and there was a small discussion about the article: Talk:One Direction/Archive 3#Band split. Someone did actually try to cite the Us Weekly article saying that the band has disbanded, but another person pointed out this Billboard article which reported that Billboard's own anonymous source denies the breakup news, saying nothing has changed regarding hiatus plans for the group, and all will be revealed in due time from the band members’ own mouths. All of this is actually mentioned in the article itself under the 2015–2016: Made in the A.M. and hiatus section.
  Because of this discrepancy, we continued the present tense format to this day, and as far as I can tell, Payne's death hasn't changed anything. We are still waiting for some official source (or alternatively a clear consensus in reliable sources) to say that the hiatus is actually a permanent split, before we can say in Wikipedia's voice that it has become a permanent split. There are a number of traditionally reliable sources reporting the group's status as still on "indefinite hiatus": see Reuters [3], BBC [4], The Guardian [5], CBS News [6]. Mz7 (talk) 01:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  What have music publications such as NME and Record Collector had to say about the band's status? (hiatus, split, etc.) Not just recently, but going back eight or so years: Record Collector often produce articles about bands that haven't done anything for a while. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  NME has described all 5 as "former members" [7]. Hemiauchenia (talk) 10:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  As do countless other articles, and I doubt there's a single source listing Horan, Styles and and Tomlinson as current members unless it's parroting this Wiki page. Miklogfeather (talk) 13:37, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Present tense and only Zayn Malik and Liam Payne listed as past members: Listing all members of One Direction as past members could cause significant confusion because it would suggest that the band has officially disbanded, which isn't true. While One Direction is on an indefinite hiatus and Zayn Malik left in 2015, the group has not officially dissolved. Marking everyone as past members could mislead readers into thinking the group no longer exists, when, in fact, there’s always the possibility of a reunion. To avoid this confusion, it’s better to reflect the hiatus status while only listing Zayn and Liam (due to his passing) as past members, and keeping the rest as current but inactive members. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 03:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  "always the possibility of a reunion" this is literally true of all bands, and Wikipedia is not a WP:CRYSTALBALL. Zayn Malik was part of the joint statement made by the surviving 1D members after Payne's passing on the official 1D social media accounts, which implies that there is no meaningful difference between him and the 3 supposedly remaining members of 1D. Hemiauchenia (talk) 04:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  While he is mentioned in the statement, it does not change the fact that he left the group. It is important to use the infobox correctly. Moving the three current members to the past members section would not align with its intended purpose. Regardless of the hiatus duration, the group has not disbanded, and the remaining members should still be listed as current members. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 05:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  On the contrary, having three "current" members could mislead the reader into thinking they have continued as a trio, which isn't known. They are all formerly One Direction members, even if they didn't officially disband, as per coverage of the group. Miklogfeather (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think it would cause confusion, as the current lineup reflects the group's status. Most people are aware that Zayn left in 2015 and that Liam sadly passed in 2024. The members aren't 'formerly' part of the group, since there hasn't been an official disbandment. Listing all members as past members isn't the right approach. The infobox is designed to show both the current and past lineups accurately. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 04:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

• Past tense. Why not we just state that fact they all five have gone solo after 2016. It is much more accurate. Using the word hiatus is vague and controversial. I am still not understanding why this wikipedia doesn't mention about their solo career at all. For the member list situation, all five on their biography page on wikipedia, their infobox writes "Formerly of One Direction". 14.0.158.69 (talk) 04:55, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  Someone recently changed it to formerly of One Direction. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 06:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  Let's rewrite the first paragraph or the lede on here. To address all the issue and update to reflect the current situation of the band below. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 07:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Past tense and all listed as past members. There has to be a point where no news from a hiatus becomes marking the band as inactive. Nearly a decade feels sufficient; the number of reports from the past few days describing "former" members, plus the statement from members including Malik implying an absence of any current lineup, tips the balance in my view. U-Mos (talk) 11:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Past tense and all listed as past members. It's not an active band. Put the cap on it. BarntToust 00:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

• The current second sentence is ungrammatical, reading The group consists of Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, Zayn Malik until his departure in 2015, and Liam Payne, until his death in 2024 (emphasis mine). If this RfC is decided in favour of present tense, I think that sentence should be changed to something like The group consists of Niall Horan, Harry Styles, and Louis Tomlinson. It previously included Zayn Malik until his departure in 2015 and Liam Payne until his death in 2024. Pinging Redrose64 who reverted my earlier attempt at fixing the grammar – any objections from you (or anyone else) to implementing that now as a temporary solution, in line with the current status quo of present tense, until the conclusion of this RfC?
  No opinion on present or past tense apart from that. Rummskartoffel 20:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  I disagree with using the sentence "The group consists of Niall Horan, Harry Styles, and Louis Tomlinson" unless a reliable source says so. It gives the impression that One Direction have continued as a trio which is speculation at this point. If present tense is decided, I suggest changing "The group consists of Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, Zayn Malik..." to "Whilst active, the group consisted of Niall Horan, Liam Payne, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, and Zayn Malik until his departure in 2015" or something along those lines, with Payne's death being noted later in the lead like Britannica does. Miklogfeather (talk) 21:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Rummskartoffel: I am not favouring one side or the other, I'm trying to prevent people from pre-empting the outcome of this ongoing RfC. Here's the thing. Beginning soon after the Liam Payne news broke, this article has attracted a lot of attention, with people making edits that were nullified by other edits soon after. On 17 October, Hemiauchenia started a discussion, and on 18 October, opened this RfC. There's nothing wrong with that, discussion is good, but while the discussion is ongoing it is disruptive to ignore that discussion and make exactly the kind of edits that are being discussed. That basically says "I don't care what other people feel, this is what I want it to read". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure that's what you mean, but for the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't aware of the RfC when I edited, and I wouldn't have edited if I had been.

  I won't pursue this any further. Rummskartoffel 19:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Draft

One Direction (1D), were an English-Irish pop boy band formed by Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, Liam Payne, and Zayn Malik in 2010 on The X Factor.

Draft by K-popguardian

• Proposed introduction: One Direction, often shortened to 1D, are an English-Irish pop boy band formed in London in 2010. The core lineup of the band comprised Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, Liam Payne, and Zayn Malik until his departure in 2015. They became one of the best-selling boy groups of all time before going on an indefinite hiatus in 2016.

This acknowledges that the band isn't formally dissolved while also listing the core members of the band during their active period as well as Zayn's departure. Liam Payne died way after the band's active period, which is why I didn't include it. Referring to other bands with members who died outside of the active period such as The Beatles, Pantera. or Kara, death of a member usually isn't listed when introducing the members BUT it does appear in other parts of the bio.

('example 1: The Beatles bio, "Lennon was murdered in 1980, and Harrison died of lung cancer in 2001. McCartney and Starr remain musically active.")

('example 2: Pantera bio,, On December 8, 2004, Dimebag Darrell was shot and killed on stage by a mentally unstable fan during a Damageplan concert in Columbus, Ohio. Vinnie Paul went on to form Hellyeah after his brother's death, and died of heart failure in 2018,[8] leaving Brown and Anselmo as the only surviving members of the band's best-known lineup.)

So I imagine Payne's death can be mentioned in the part of the bio where the members are confirmed to have gone off on solo careers.

Proposed for 1D page: The band went on indefinite hiatus in January 2016, allowing all members to pursue other projects. During this period, Payne died in 2024 after an accidental fall a third-floor balcony at a hotel in Buenos Aires, Argentina. - K-popguardian (talk) 03:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

The sentence doesn't need "The core lineup of". It could be "The band's members were Niall Horan, Liam Payne, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, and, until his 2015 departure, Zayn Malik. They became one of the best-selling boy groups of all time before going on an indefinite hiatus in 2016." PRRfan (talk) 18:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

You can't state it was accidental as no verdict has been reached. Mb2437 (talk) 15:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Remove Liam Payne leaving One Direction

The text “The group consisted of Niall Horan, Harry Styles, Louis Tomlinson, Zayn Malik until his departure in 2015, and Liam Payne, until his death in 2024.” is incorrect. It implies that the group consisted of along others Liam Payne, until his death. This is incorrect. The group disbanded long before his death. His death was not a reason for the group not consisting of him anymore. The disbandment of the group was the reason for that. Grimey2k (talk) 12:06, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

@Grimey2k: Please see the discussion above. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:00, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Other content removal

@14.0.158.69 Don't manually removed contents and disguised it to archive and use the RfC as an excuse for your unreasonable reasons. Then archiver bot shouldn't place here if we can just manually archive every discussion here. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 08:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Archive can be done by either manual or bot. what's the problem? 14.0.158.69 (talk) 08:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

This page is set up for automatic archiving by lowercase sigmabot III (talk · contribs), please leave archiving to that bot. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Correct and some of it can be useful for other user who will visit this talk page so they will not repeat the same edit requests over and over because of the recent events. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 08:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

On talk pages that generate significant amounts of discussion, old discussions are often archived to keep the size of the talk page at a manageable level. This may be done either manually or with the help of a bot. An archive box with links to the discussion archives is normally placed at the top of the current talk page. per WP:TP. We need the size of the talk page at a manageable level therefore manual archive. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 09:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

And as per WP:ARCHIVE: "..The talk page guidelines suggest archiving when the talk page exceeds 75 KB (or 75,000 bytes).."

The current size of this talk page (excluding this reply) is at 32.9 KB, so yeah this talk page is at manageable level. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 09:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

you missed the statement "or has multiple resolved or stale discussions." therefore i can do manual archive. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 09:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Redrose64 The IP user removed the content again but I reverted it back, and they also re-created the Talk:One Direction/Archive 5. What to do with their behavior? 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 09:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

14.0.158.69 (talk) 09:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Redrose64 Can i at least manual archive some of the sections but not all on 17 oct? for people to see the RfC without scroll down. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

No, please leave it alone, you are now well into WP:ANEW territory, specifically Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:14.0.158.69 reported by User:Windborne Rider (Result: ) although that heading will change if a result is agreed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I understand and will leave it alone. Please scroll down every single time when visiting this page. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 10:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Can I manual archive some of the old discussion?

Can I at least manual archive some of the discussions but not all on 17 oct? for people to see the RfC without scrolling down. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 10:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Please stop using the {{help me}} template and await the replies from other editors who follow the discussions on the talk page. Sam Sailor 10:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

can you help me with the question then? thank you. 14.0.158.69 (talk) 10:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Since you asked my opinion: no, I don't think there is a need for manually archiving here. MizraBot will do its job in due course according to the settings. Sam Sailor 10:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

The answer to your question is a very clear NO. The archiver bot is doing its job. You should not interfere. Maproom (talk) 16:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2024

Request templates to notify editors the issues on the page:

14.0.169.224 (talk) 02:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Don't see discussion regarding these purported issues Cannolis (talk) 03:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 October 2024

Request to edit please 51.37.237.175 (talk) 17:57, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Not an admin, but the way this template works is that an administrator will do the edit for you if the request is approved. You should edit your request to describe the changes you want to make. Thesixthstaff (talk) 18:00, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Cropping the infobox picture

Would it be possible to crop the infobox picture? Zayn and Liam are both on the right hand side and they aren't members anymore, so the picture could be cropped to just the three remaining members. Immaterialperson (talk) 22:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

@Immaterialperson: I don't think that would be a good idea. For bands that are no longer active, infobox pictures usually show the most representative lineup, and for 1D this would be prior to the departure of Malik. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

I'd be opposed to that since One Direction haven't yet publicly continued as a trio, hence the discussions above about current vs past members. Even for bands that have continued through member losses, i.e. Pink Floyd, showing all members can be more valuable to the reader in my opinion. Miklogfeather (talk) 13:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 October 2024

Last sentence of the second paragraph needs to be changed.

Current: "With the release of Four, One Direction became the first band have their first four albums debut at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart."

Should be changed to: "With the release of Four, One Direction became the first band to have their first four albums debut at number one on the US Billboard 200 chart." Tmh2176 (talk) 01:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

@Tmh2176: I had to look very carefully, but it seems that it's simply a missing "to" between "band" and "have". With that I agree, so  Done --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you :)! Tmh2176 (talk) 21:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 November 2024

I suggest that you add the following text mention Liam Payne as a founding member of one direction who has sadly passed away but will be forever remembered for his contributions 2A02:C7C:CBC6:9700:F5FE:4031:74F5:1F59 (talk) 18:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Please see WP:NOTMEMORIAL, also the discussion above. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 14 November 2024

Liam Payne should be moved back to the members list, seeing as the band isn’t together anymore anyway. He died a member of 1D and it isn’t fair to rip that away from him. He earned that. There is an uproar or angry fans all over social media who want this changed. 72.39.1.69 (talk) 14:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit protected}} template. this is under discussion above. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)