Talk:Raffi Hovannisian

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Citizenship

Can this be sourced? TIA --Tom (talk) 01:10, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accusations made in article

Noticed my comments got deleted - [redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.69.128 (talk) 01:30, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can't write "a American politician" - it is grammatically wrong and contains incorrect information. Raffi Hovannisian has never been a politician in America.

Raffi Hovannisian [various comments redacted]. 1. From 2007 to 2012 He was a member of Parliament of the Republic of Armenia, member/head of a fraction, member of various parliamentary fractions. 2. From 1993 he is a founder and head of the Armenian Center for National and International Studies.

If you are going to do political propaganda, you should find a platform other than Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.44.40.1 (talk) 10:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I never heard of Raffi Hovannisian, but I just wanted to add a practical note; yes wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a political platform; but if these allegations can be cited- that is he's been formally accused or newspapers have accused him etc. and there are reliable, verifiable sources or websites to prove this, it could be included in the wikipedia page. But remember, wikipedia deals in fact; so if a newspaper has accused him, say that and only that: do not present allegations as fact. Rushton2010 (talk) 10:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it is just an accusation by a newspaper, why it should be cited in wikipedia, if it is obviously wrong (a man, a leader of a political party, member of the parliament for years - can't [redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.44.40.1 (talk) 10:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. I was referring to the claims made by 67.84.69.128 (talk) with regards to [redacted]. If accusations have been made in reputable places that can be cited, they can be included in wikipedia articles; Wikipedia tries to be a full and thorough encyclopedia and so these sorts of things are included if they can be reliably cited because they are of historical significance, and it's important we remember them. We need to provide the full story. For Example, Barack Obama's page talks of the accusations that he wasn't born in the USA; And Tony Blair, George Bush and O.J. Simpson's pages include the "conspiracy theories" and accusations against them. There is nothing to say that these things are true; it may even say "they were later proved false" or what-have-you; but there is a responsibility to record that the accusations were made to ensure we have a complete encyclopedic article.

Not knowing who this politician is, and not following Armenian politics or journalism, I couldn't tell you whether or not accusations have been made, or whether they are just unfounded accusations made for political reasons.

Rushton2010 (talk) 14:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have redacted various references to potentially libellous accusations and am about to suppress them, as I have done in the article. Any reinstatement of them without citation from reliable sources will be met with immediate blocking. --Dweller (talk) 15:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]