User talk:Ballymore1

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Ballymore1, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to History of the Quran has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:19, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@NeilN:

Hi Neil, To be honest, I don't think that's a fair assessment. Yes, I based parts of my write up on Reynolds but I also included several other authors and additional information and reference points in a relatively short space. This was done on an important topic on the history of the Qu'ran others hadn't even started yet, so I believe at the very least it was a good reference point for further redaction. In my opinion, CounterTime's criticism was largely unmerited, he doesn't seem to understand Wikipedia is not a religious apologetic website. He contributed nothing to do article (i.e. no real suggestions to improve it) and instead simply wanted to remove anything he deemed to be critical of Islam, which is not how Wikipedia is supposed to work. Could you please give me specific/detailed reasons for the complete removal of the write-up? Many thanks! Ballymore1 (talk)

August 2015

Hello, I'm JJMC89. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Ahmed Deedat with this edit, without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:14, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@JJMC89:

Hi JJMC89,

Thanks for reaching out.

I understand - I've just started using Wikipedia was only trying to make the page flow a bit better as I was adding significantly more content to two sections - the Debate section, and the Criticism section.

I have been working on this most of the day and should have left more 'update' comments in the process.

Could the material I wrote please be re-instated, as I see it has temporarily been removed? It is factual and I referenced it all closely; my main source being Ahmed Deedat's official biography 'Ahmed Deedat: The Man and His Mission', 2013, by Goolam Vahed.

Thanks and best regards,

Ballymore1 (talk) 20:12, 29 August 2015 (UTC)B.[reply]

(29 August 2015)

I only restored the content that was removed in the one edit. GorgeCustersSabre is the editor that removed your additions due to sourcing concerns. Please discuss the issue at Talk:Ahmed Deedat. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:19, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@GorgeCustersSabre:

Hi GorgeCustersSabre,

I added more material the the 'Ahmed Deedat' wikipedia page, focused on two sections: the 'Debate' section, and 'Criticism' section.

Could you let me know why the material has temporarily been removed?

It is factual and I referenced it all closely; my main source being Ahmed Deedat's official biography 'Ahmed Deedat: The Man and His Mission', 2013, by Goolam Vahed. I gave the specific page numbers in the biography to show where the information came from.

Thanks and best regards,

Ballymore1 (talk) 20:42, 29 August 2015 (UTC)B[reply]

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