User talk:Rick Jelliffe

Hi Rick,

welcome to Wikipedia :). Not everyone gets that loud feedback when joining Wikipedia to improve articles (on the other hand, there are people in this wiki who are doing such lovely work that one couldn't be loud enough to applaud them). I am quite confident that there are a lot of people around who will be offering their help in the policy jungle and style advises and explaining all the aspects of Wikipedia. Simply ask and someone will answer. I would love to hear from your experiences in Wikipedia after those days of work are over. -- Mathias Schindler 21:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Citing reliable sources when adding statements to articles, and demanding citations for uncited controversial claims, that's the key. With proper citations an article about Nazi UFOs can survive a deletion attempt. Gazpacho 09:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ThanksRick Jelliffe 03:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The lighter side of Wikipedia

Wikipedia:No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man might help you to understand Wikipedia culture. WAS 4.250 18:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Rick Jelliffe

There were still some assertions in that article that seemed out of line with the available sources. For example, that you were asked to edit articles about "Microsoft products." I've edited it further. Gazpacho 22:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Rick. I blog for SocialFresh on paid COI editing on Wikipedia. You may have seen there is some discussion on whether it is a reliable source for Wikipedia per se, but I did want to see if you were interested in doing a Q&A for the blog. I saw your comment on the COI Editing article and figured it was about time someone get all the facts out.(sort of like I did here)

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The blog post is up here and I've shared it on the Conflict of interest editing on Wikipedia page as a potential source to balance your section with your point of view. User:King4057 16:06, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi.
I recently marked the two articles as reviewed/patrolled. In both of these articles, I have added "lead too short" maintenance tag. Somebody should come along and fix it. I would have done it myself, but i dont have a computer right now. I might do it after 10-12 hours from now, or maybe later than that. Thanks again for creating these articles. They are very good. See you around :) —usernamekiran(talk) 09:36, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I did not know what else to put in the USB_(Physical) and USB_(Communictions) articles that I split out from USB. I guess some summary of the topic (rather than a summary of the intent of the article) would be expected, but in both these articles it is intrinsically a sea of details, and not particularly summarizable in any useful way. Rick Jelliffe (talk) 09:47, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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http://laroucheplanet.info

Hello Rick Jelliffe,

It seems self-evident to me that this website does not meet Wikipedia's standards for a reliable source. Apparently, you disagree. Please explain why you think that this website is acceptable for use in a biography on Wikipedia. In my opinion, there are far better sources available about LaRouche's support for conspiracy theories. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I recall that I responded to this at the time, but not on my personal talk page. My memory is dim now, but here is my perspective now. (Please feel free to ignore since it is a stale issue.)

Yes, I agree that a LaRouche site is certainly not a reliable source for information in general. However, it is a reliable source for what the laRoucheans say, which IIRC was how it was used. So I think if there is problem with quoting them for that, it would not be on the grounds of WP:RS but because of WP:OR, i.e. that citing a primary source could be considered original research.

Regards,

Rick Jelliffe (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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redact

You’re not allowed to change what you wrote in a discussion after someone has replied to it, per WP:REDACTED. Thus, you must fix it accordingly in the manner in which is described in WP:REDACTED. Raulois (talk) 06:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I looked for strike-throughs, but could not find them, so I wrote "Update" and an explicit note.

I believe I have added the appropriate markup now. Rick Jelliffe (talk) 12:07, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you can reply to my response to you in monasticism and ordination section. Raulois (talk) 07:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will reply on the Talk page of the Erasmus article from the POV of a Wikipedian.

Cheers,

Rick Rick Jelliffe (talk) 08:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Collaborate?

I’m planning to stat to revise the John Fisher article to ameliorate it, can you help me with it? I’ll be able to help you with other articles that you need assistance. Raulois (talk) 02:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Glad to help on Fisher. I am more aware of his life, circle and times than his theology.

What do you think needs to be done? Rick Jelliffe (talk) 11:40, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

I went ahead and made several improvements to the article, which are mainly documented in the Talk pages. In particular, I have added some more detail on the Hitton allegations (from a Foxe, a Protestant source who would have mentioned torture if it was seriously rumoured--as he did with More) and the porridge poisoning, and also removed some phrases that were complained of as being too hagiographical.

The article seems structurally sound and well-linked to other articles. The main issue I see is that it needs a lot more citations for the statements: the "hagiographical" text would be acceptable if there was WP:RS citations. Rick Jelliffe (talk) 13:28, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bien joué, thanks for reciprocating your good will by which I do likewise in the articles that you need help therewith. I’m going to commence augmenting the biography and subsequently move onto his theology. I’ll scrutinize the article and give you a circumstantial précis thereafter. Raulois (talk) 16:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The new additions look good, and I have simplified them. Do you have any citations for them: What are your sources?

By the way, I was wondering why you use alliteration so much? It is a little like Anglo-Saxon poetry:

"Acknowledging Fisher's aptitude for learning, and being financially well-off,

his mother assented to his admission into the University of Cambridge." Rick Jelliffe (talk) 13:35, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Erasmus colon edit

I don't understand why the colon is appropriate here and the comma usage makes the sentence "unparseable." According to MOS:COLONS, a colon "introduces something that demonstrates, explains, or modifies what has come before ... [or] introduce[s] direct speech enclosed within quotation marks," and "a colon works best with a complete grammatical sentence before it."

The sentence "Since the Gospels become, in effect, like sacraments" is not a complete sentence; it is, rather, a dependent clause which needs the other part of the sentence for completion, therefore making the comma the most appropriate punctuation mark, per MOS:COMMAS.

I'm reaching out before I restore the comma to understand your position; perhaps there is something I've missed that you can point out to me.

Best,
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You are entirely right. Apologies. I have put in your comma backin (and decluttered others):

Since the Gospels become in effect like sacraments, for Erasmus reading them becomes a form of prayer which is spoiled by taking single sentences in isolation and using them as syllogisms.

It is still a clumsy sentence. Maybe this would be better:

For Erasmus, the Gospels are in effect like sacraments: reading them becomes a form of prayer which is spoiled by taking single sentences in isolation and using them as syllogisms.

Would that be better?Rick Jelliffe (talk) 08:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for the late response. Either one works for me.

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