Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council

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Non-notable organization. There is no indication that this is a notable law organization in Ukraine. Google searches in both English and Ukrainian result in no significant coverage. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:36, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: There is a Supreme Council of Justice (Вища рада юстиції) within the Ukrainian government. This present organization should not be confused with that governmental organization. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:42, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council WikiDan61 The All-Ukrainian Supreme LEgal Council is a newly founded organization, so it's why it is Non-notable organization, yet. Our site was recently launched and it'is the reason Why Google searches are no significant coverage. Helga377

All-Ukrainian Supreme Legal Council is different from [Supreme Council of Justice]. [AUSLC] is private organization, the aim of which is to supporte lawyers, give legal advice, represent interests of individuals, to cooperate with state authorities on issues of jurisprudense an so on. [Supreme Council of Justice] is an advising judicial and control-revisionary government body in Ukraine. The Supreme Council of Justice of Ukraine advises on the appointment or release of certain judges, examines the cases of infringements, and executes disciplinary proceedings involving judges of the Supreme Court of Ukraine and other high specialized courts.

Wow. I really can't understand why this content might be disputed. The sources seem genuine. Please explain in further detail the negative judgement. Rebekahalnablack —Preceding undated comment added 00:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

About our organization in media, however it is a newly founded organization, currently I can't show you any significant coverage. But in future it will. Sincerely, Helga377, 15:44, 9 December 2016

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 18:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Perhaps to the organization's dismay, but the policy on guessing future notability is plainly at work here. If, in time, this organization does generate coverage, some editor will likely add it. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:12, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:12, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:12, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Appears to effectively be the bar society of Ukraine, formed in accordance with international best practice. Such organisations are generally notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:20, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment @Necrothesp: I could find no indication that this organization is recognized as the bar society for Ukraine. There is a Ukrainian Bar Association which is distinct from this organization. Neither organization appears to have the same position of actually licensing lawyers that a state bar association would have in the United States. The Ukraine Disciplinary Bar Commission appears to have the power to discipline lawyers, but it does not oversee their licensing. (See Law of Ukraine.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 00:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not aware we were talking about the United States. Not everything has to be done as it is in the United States to be valid. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:23, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Necrothesp: Obviously we're not talking about the United States. I just used that as a reference. The point is that Ukraine has no official bar association, and this organization does not have any claim to that position, contradicting your assertion that this is the (or at least an) official bar association of Ukraine. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not the official bar society., and the proponents of the article admit that it's newly founded. Not yet ready for an article. DGG ( talk ) 05:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - if this were the official bar society, my !vote would be different, but since it isn't than until it can meet WP:GNG it should be deleted. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- No evidence of notability. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:25, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.