Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belal Jadallah

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. I see a rough consensus to Keep this article. While his death might have prompted the media coverage, in their stories about him, they seem to go into a review of his accomplishments that are reflected in the article so they weren't just "So and so has died" articles. As far as a Merge option goes, that possibility can be proposed on the article talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:38, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belal Jadallah

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This article is only notable for having a non-significant role (dead journalist) in a bigger event (Gaza siege).

WP:BIO1E says:

When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, an independent article may not be needed. That person should be covered in an article regarding the event

English Google turn 8 results, all of which were related to his death. Arabic google on translate turned 50 results (5 pages). Exactly all <2023 articles were on the level of A traffic accident in Jerusalem kills a 7-year-old girl or Video: Bayern Munich players speak Arabic: Franck Ribery and Manuel Neuer, presumably articles by him. बिनोद थारू (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism, Israel, and Palestine. बिनोद थारू (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep. Subject seems to have engaged in at least noteworthy activities even prior to his certainly noteworthy death. At worst, move to draft to provide additional time for research and expansion, with the understanding that there are likely to be non-English sources that require more time to assemble. BD2412 T 04:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I just added his Google results (WP:BEFORE) in my nomination.
Do you still consider him "noteworthy" in light of the nil coverage of him both in English and Arabic? (barring his WP:1E accident) बिनोद थारू (talk) 04:59, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable enough. killer bee  08:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep! --Masssly (talk) 10:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -Per Belal Jadallah, A Giant In Palestinian Journalism, Killed In Israeli Bombing In Gaza, Belal Jadallah, A Giant In Palestinian Journalism, Killed In Israeli Bombing In Gaza, Israel-Palestine war: 'Godfather' of Palestinian journalism Belal Jadallah killed in Israeli shelling. I would argue the individual is notable, even the Canadian mission made a post following his death, and his death could be argued is also notable. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 11:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BIO1E:
When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, an independent article may not be needed. That person should be covered in an article regarding the event

All of those sources you gave are precisely about his death last week. बिनोद थारू (talk) 06:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Jadallah has been described in RS as "the godfather of Palestinian journalism" and a "giant" in Palestinian journalism; he is notable for his journalism, not just his death. (Note: I created this article). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. His career and influence in the field provide enough substance for a standalone article on Wikipedia. Eladkarmel (talk) 19:35, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per above, given that his outsize impact/influence in his field is noted in sources. Jackie.salzinger (talk) 12:27, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (very selectively) into Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war, where this journalist belongs yet isn't mentioned. All this as BIO1E. This destination is preferred over the List of journalists killed in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war that comes with the article, because the list should be merged into Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war as well. Yet the list is also a valid destination, as right now it exists alongside. Maybe by current setup the article is too refined. It's possible. Both would be legitimate destinations. My recommendation holds unless RS/I/V previous coverage ON this journalist is found. Always hard to find ON journalists as blurred by materials BY a journalist. So just tag me if you have it. I apply exactly the same standards for all sides and sorts (i.e. including for Hamas "militants", which this journalist is not). gidonb (talk) 03:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.