Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Holly Brockwell (2nd nomination)
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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is not a promotional medium. This page is about an individual that falls foul of most of the eligibility requirements for a person of notability. While the individual has received coverage through self publicising, none of the topics have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. They were a flash in the pan and quickly buried amongst the wealth of similar stories. Simoncroftuk (talk) 11:37, 13 April 2020 (UTC) — Simoncroftuk (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Keep Multiple sources covering the subject in a variety of ways over time and including accolades and awards too. The subject therefore passes WP:GNG and notability does not expire. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I was the nominator in the first effort to delete this piece. Ms. Brockwell was an early hire by Jimmy Wales to work for one of his series of entrepreneurial ventures. It was promotional fluff to curry favor with special people from its inception. There is zero percent chance this piece would have been written if she was not a (now former) Wales employee. Fails GNG. Carrite (talk) 15:17, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- That theory is 100% wrong. Just look at the timeline. The subject established a reputation by 2015, winning a Woman of the Year award. The article about the subject was created here in 2016 with no mention of Wales. They were subsequently recruited by Jimbo's WikiTribune in 2017, over a year later.
- For the truth, one just has to look at the previous discussion where the author stated, "She is a tech journalist and activist for female inclusion in tech and media, expanding on the article could be beneficial especially for the argument of making Wikipedia more open to women in the tech industry. I started this for that reason as I thought more women that have actively worked towards the inclusion of women in tech should have their pages."
- Andrew🐉(talk) 20:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- The page for Holly Brockwell was created by someone Andrew knows personally, Karolina Janicka. They worked together in Shoreditch updating Wikipedia on election night. The reason the page was created was as part of an academic paper titled The Wikipedia Gender Gap, which was an experiment to add more women in tech onto Wikipedia. Janicka stated in her paper, "I decided to create a Wikipedia page for Holly Brockwell who has been the centre of another assignment of mine, but seemed interesting to work on since she is also the founderof Gadgette, a website for showcasing and sharing technology with an exclusively female community. I thought that it was interesting that Holly was working towards engaging and persuading women to take part in the technology community and wanted to showcase her efforts on Wikipedia and maybe in this way bring to light other activities and movements forthe inclusion of women in tech" It is quite clear this page was created through activism, not through Ms Brockwell's notability. If running a tech blog that is no longer updated, writing for some other tech sites and being female can be defined as meeting the requirements for WP:GNG then we need to add the hundreds of thousands of women globally that do the same, but unfortunately aren't the subject of an experimental piece of work.
- Delete It is WP:TOOSOON for an article on this author. She has been mentioned in a couple of newspapers a few years ago, mainly op-eds or for claiming outrage. But otherwise, information about her can only be found in the typical industry listings and unreliable social media self-promotion. Gadgette also suffers from it's own notability issues. It has not nearly enough coverage to be used as credentials for WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naved K. (talk • contribs) 15:36, 13 April 2020 (UTC) — Naved K. (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete as not meeting notability guidelines. There is not significant independent coverage. Listing works by the subject is not significant. The Drum Woman of the Year at SheSays Awards is not a significant award. There appears to be a lot of self-aggrandizement here. Note all the op-ed. --Bejnar (talk) 15:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per above: insuffient coverage in reliable sources to pass the most basic requirements of WP:ANYBIO. ——SN54129 15:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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