Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ministers' Hill Baptist Church
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Disregarding the struck nomination, I still find consensus to delete. The keep comments don't present any policy-based arguments or reliable sources. In the absence of sources, we can't retain this. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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run of the mill church MistyGraceWhite (talk) 20:12, 17 May 2020 (UTC) struck confirmed blocked sockpuppet, Atlantic306 (talk) 19:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well this doesn't make me look good, since I originally marked this page as NPP reviewed, but admittedly I can't for the life of me figure out why, now. The sourcing certainly doesn't make a case for notability, nor does any part of the text (
one of the oldest Angami Baptist churches in Kohima city
is... suspiciously specific :p) Suggest delete at this point. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 00:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 00:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)*
- Keep This article can surely be improved. Would be bias if other churches can be included but not a church from a minor community is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymousme (talk • contribs)
- Keep It appears to be about as notable as the other entries on Category:Religious buildings and structures in Nagaland; also there is no indication that a search was made in Hindi or other relevant foreign languages prior to nomination.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 04:17, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- It's up to you to demonstrate that such sources exist if you want it kept; and of the five other entries in that category, at least two (Kohima Jain Temple, Mary Help of Christians Cathedral, Kohima) are obvious candidates for deletion themselves. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:43, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete "appearing" as notable as something else does not make it so. The WP:BURDEN is not on the nominator to WP:VERIFY content and establish notability: there does not appear to be significant independent coverage of this generic church. Please avoid WP:MUSTBESOURCES arguments; unclear what "minor community" means, inclusion is based on sources not location. Reywas92Talk 01:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. No sources are provided other than a church directory website and a book published by this church itself. Being a Baptist church in Nagaland is not a sign of notability in and of itself, because as indicated at Christianity in Nagaland, Nagaland (one of three Christian-majority states in India) is one of the most predominantly Baptist areas in the world. If this church really is notable per WP:ORG, this article does not make that case. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:53, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- If it can't be kept, then redirect to Ministers' Hill Baptist Higher Secondary School as secondary schools are presumed notable.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 02:29, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Notable and I'm going to suggest here that the people saying it isn't notable have no working knowledge of Nagaland culture so would not be able to ascertain the notability of a church in Naga. I do have working knowledge and yes, a church that was built in 1966, is very much notable.Gumlau (talk) 18:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- I would recommend that any editors who have working knowledge of Nagaland culture and support a "keep" should use their knowledge to find good reliable sources for the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- It is generally more difficult to source an article from a remoter part of the world. The fact that it is a notable building in Nagaland. --Anonymousme (talk) 04:47, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - no sources have been presented to support the assertion that this is a notable topic Spiderone 17:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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