Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samuel Nchinda-Kaya

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Schminnte^{[talk to me]} 16:48, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Nchinda-Kaya

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Listed competitions do not seem to establish notability – winning a Résisprint International does not seem to fulfill GNG or NSPORT as a "major international competition". InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:55, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, and Cameroon. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:55, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, thank you for the nomination giving us a chance to improve the article. Samuel Nchinda was a regular on the international track and field circuit in 1991 and 1992, not just at major championships where he advanced past the first round at two different Olympics. Résisprint is a World Athletics Continental Tour Challenger level meeting -- though this distinction didn't exist in 1992 it was a premier international meeting. If you want to get technical about WP:NATH, he satisfies point 8) as Nchinda's 10.24 PB is listed on the IAAF "senior all-time list" for men's 100m on page 15 here: Senior all-time list. I also added a cite that Nchinda competed at the 1991 World Indoor Championships, setting a national record and qualifying for the semifinals. Thank you, --Habst (talk) 01:07, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Every sporty sperm isn't with a couple of tin cups worth a Wikipedia entry. There are sporting websites for that. MisterWizzy (talk) 13:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~. No evidence of GNG coverage, which is necessary to establish for athletes regardless of their accomplishments. Being listed on the IAAF senior all-time list does not exempt the subject from the requirement that a SIGCOV IRS source be cited in their article.

JoelleJay (talk) 03:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC) EDIT: Keep per new sources found. JoelleJay (talk) 22:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JoelleJay, thank you for commenting because it has spurred me to look for more GNG coverage. I found dozens of contemporary newspaper sources featuring Sam under the name "Sam Nchinda" -- perhaps the article should be moved to that title. I added a few of them to the article (the article now has 19 references) but I am not done going through them yet, here are just a few from the Edgware Observer, Harrow Observer, and Pinner Observer: Sam takes on best in world Sparkling Sam lifts the gloom for Gayts Olympian Sam goes out in heats. May I ask that you please re-evaluate the article in light of this significant new information added? --Habst (talk) 15:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sadly, BEFORE didn't help. No significant coverage in reliable sources. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Vanderwaalforces, thank you for commenting because your comment along with JoelleJay's above drove me to find more GNG sources for this article. The article now has 19 references including several significant newspaper sources that focus specifically on Nchinda, see above for some examples. Can you please re-evaluate based on the new changes? Separately, if you could help organize the newly added information in the article into sections, that would be greatly appreciated. --Habst (talk) 15:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst This is a good job you've done. Thank you so much! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I now lean towards Keeping this article based on this. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:01, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I also have done the re-organisation as you requested. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep on the basis of the additional sources provided by User:Habst. Ingratis (talk) 15:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Fantastic work by Habst in finding sources to demonstrate notability and expanding the article. @JoelleJay, Vanderwaalforces, and MisterWizzy: BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:38, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, expansion and sources added satisfy notability guidelines, good work, Habst! ~ Tails Wx 03:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.