Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Myers (footballer)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Daniel (talk) 11:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Simione001 (talk) 03:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- There's significant coverage here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - @Alexeyevitch:, @GiantSnowman:, @BeanieFan11:, I found [1], [2], and [3] among more sources. Clearly signficant player in NZ local football who won OFC Champions League, five league titles and played for the NZ national and olympic team. Article needs improvement not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- First source is decent, second one too broad, third one inaccessible. GiantSnowman 21:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. I can't read Das osmnezz's ProQuest link, but the first one is sigcov (as pointed out above), and, by looking through ProQuest myself, I located this which is arguably sigcov as well. For a New Zealand international and Olympian, this should probably be sufficient. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- That source is also inaccessible. GiantSnowman 21:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Copied from the source:
ANY PLANS Tim Myers and his soccer-mad mates might have had for these school holidays went on hold early last month. Against the odds, the Myers-led Soccer 2 team beat Australian champions FC Melbourne 2-1 on an outer field at North Harbour Stadium, and with it won the chance to lace their boots at the Manchester United Premier Cup tournament in Hong Kong. The under-15 team ... leaves tomorrow on the trip of their lives. As captain, Myers has the honour of leading the team, who include two of his Auckland Grammar schoolmates, into the unknown ... Since being selected for Soccer 2 this year when he was juggling cricket and soccer, Myers has been aware of the big prize, but admits he and his team-mates did not carry any great expectations into the game against Melbourne. When Soccer 2 fell a goal behind after 20 minutes to an Australian team so confident of success that they did not turn up until the day before the game, he was not too surprised, but said he and the rest did not give up ... Myers, a defender who first kicked a ball as a five-year-old at the Eastern Suburbs club where he continues to play, is under no illusions as he prepares for the 10-day trip, which will include, realistically, four pool games, but not much else...
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Copied from the source:
- That source is also inaccessible. GiantSnowman 21:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I think the two NZ Herald articles clearly exceeds the notability requirements for WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG.
- FYI anyone can access Proquest content via the Wikipedia Library if you have enough edits to your name. An inaccessible source is still a source. However the proquest links above appear to just be the NZ Herald sources already in the article.
- He is also mentioned here[1][2] as replacing another injured player in a world cup qualifying game, with the coach saying, "Tim is another promising young player from the ASB Premiership. He's part of the Olympic team and he'll do the shirt proud if called upon during this tournament." David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 02:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Reid out, Smith retains captaincy", RNZ, 2012-05-30, retrieved 2024-11-01
- ^ Woodcock, Fred (31 May 2012), "Myers in for injured Reid in cup qualifier", The Marlborough Express
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A few more comments on the newly found sources should clear this up. Also, the gated sources are not helpful but could go a long way if an alternative link was provided.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 15:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Delete: The new sources do not provide WP:SIGCOV, just a couple of sentences about the subject. The only source I see that passes WP:GNG is the New Zealand Herald, and although he is featured in more than one article there, it will count as only one source unfortunately. DesiMoore (talk) 15:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – I would like to know why the user @Canary757 reverted the edit with my vote. Svartner (talk) 14:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- total accident, no idea it had happened, not sure how, please accept my apologiesCanary757 (talk) 14:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Svartner (talk) 15:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- total accident, no idea it had happened, not sure how, please accept my apologiesCanary757 (talk) 14:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – The NZ Herald's sources look good enough for WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- My understanding is that one source is inadequate. Simione001 (talk) 20:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I've made some additions, agree with Das osmnezz that the article needs improvement not deletion. Kiwichris (talk) 07:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The NZH source provided by Beanie is sufficient here. C679 13:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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