Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zachary Ailes
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete and redirect to Roger Ailes#Personal life. SoWhy 06:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
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Notability is not inherited. No evidence of independent notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:07, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I am aware that notability is not inherited, but the boy talked about by NY Daily News (Roger Ailes’ teenage son vows he’s ‘coming after’ people who betrayed his dad), New York Post, Huffington Post (Roger Ailes’ Son Says He’s ‘Coming After’ Those Who ‘Betrayed’ His Late Father), Washington Post (Roger Ailes’s teenage son vows to go after his dad’s accusers — ‘and hell is coming with me’), Mediaite (Roger Ailes’ Son to Those Who ‘Betrayed’ His Father: ‘Coming After Them’ and ‘Hell Is Coming With Me’), and many others for his comments at the funeral reception. That's quite a lot of attention for anyone to have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigskyusa1776 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to Roger Ailes#Personal life Poor attempt to WP:COATRACK this subject's remarks into the form of an article, and frankly inappropriate as they were dealing with grief over their father's death. Nate • (chatter) 03:29, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. FITINDIA 03:56, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I disagree that this is inappropriate, the boy is 17 years old, and has gained HIS OWN notoriety in the media. He is famous - of his own accord - and, since his father's passing has become a public figure. Just this last week another article was written about him that had NOTHING to do with his father. It was about his cooking abilities and a review of a cooking show he did Zachary Ailes does not know how to cook paella (link redacted; see my note below. Nate • (chatter) 00:26, 23 June 2017 (UTC)). He should have his own wikipedia page, but nothing too large or too critical - in order to respect his grieving process. Just his basic facts. Bigskyusa1776 (talk) 01:17, 20 June 2017 (UTC)— Bigskyusa1776 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- I'm not going to support an article that basically exists to mock someone for their grief, nor their cooking skills. Knock it off, we're not supporting an article denigrating a subject's grief, no matter how awful their father was. Nate • (chatter) 00:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- In fact, I'm redacting that link per an WP:IGNORE; don't restore it. It exists to mock the subject's video for a high school project. If you want to see what it's about it's still in the history as a previous revision, but I'm not allowing it to taint this nom further. Nate • (chatter) 00:26, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not going to support an article that basically exists to mock someone for their grief, nor their cooking skills. Knock it off, we're not supporting an article denigrating a subject's grief, no matter how awful their father was. Nate • (chatter) 00:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete. Yes, we need to exercise some maturity on our parts on how we handle this. WP:MINORS advises us to be very cautious. Conflating a "threat" at the funeral of his father -- reportedly made in jest -- with a YouTube video of him cooking doesn't get us anywhere near WP:BIO. Leave the kid alone. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:04, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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