Episode 3 opens with an experience Amy had growing up in the Mormon church, what that inspired and why and how she ultimately left as a young adult.
 
 In parenting this week, we get John and Amy’s view on the balance of domestic and “work” duties and how that will influence their kid’s empathetic perspective. 
 
 This week’s guest is New York Times best-selling author Ijeoma Oluo (So You Want To Talk About Race). John, Amy and Ijeoma discuss what it was like to write and release her newest book, Mediocre: The Dangerous Legacy Of White Male America, during the pandemic and how she adjusted her home life to get the work done. Ijeoma gives us her perspective on Seattle’s response to the BLM movement and how the focus on uprisings rather than historical activism is misguided. They discuss how lack of accountability and societal connection plays a role in on going white supremacy and the collective responsibilities of white society in working towards ending systemic racism. Ijeoma also tells us why she’s looking forward to the spring and what her other writing interests are outside of anti-racism. Amy teaches John the meaning of “Epigenetics” and the impact of stress on our DNA. In Weekday Wine, John and Amy sip Topo Chico sparkling mineral water and discuss the ritual of having a drink and what Amy calls the “Pandemic Creep”.
This weeks featured music is by Gabriel Teodros, from his newest record What We Leave Behind.
 As always, John and Amy remind us that We’re Not Alone.
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