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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

Event:Interview of FBI Special Agen~.. ......I·....

Type ofevent:Interview ",~/9/11 Law Enforcement


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Dates: October 17, 2003

Special Access Issues: None

Prepared by: Hyon Kim

Team Number: lA

Location: FBI, Washington Field.Office ///

Participants - Non-Cemmissiom BO,9:Sinton, ,f~sistant General Counsel, FBI

Participants - CO~J!liS~ion: HY~I)--~im,Mkh~el Jacobson

..... ..Ih~ndled thel" ~~~er, which arose from a lead from Dulles.


The investigation lasted for.about 30 days in September 2001. INS/Customs at Dulles
contacted the FBI with information abo,tid lvho had expressed pro-UBL views, was
a convert to Islam, andexhibited bizarre behavior. His practice of Islam was also
interfering with his duties as an INS jnspector at Dulles. INS/Customs was also aware
when they contactedthe FBI that t~ of the'hijackers had gone throug~ lline at
Dulles in the su~ri1er of 200 1. ,/.:' \\ \: j
I I'~~d additional ag,~'~tsconducted~ num~rous interviews '"1~th~O-
workers at INS and his supe~'i;or. They ~ookc¥.at!. _ !milita:r tinr travel
records and conducted surveillance. The mvesnganon showed that as one or
two steps removed from a number of terrorism subjects, such as Rageah, and another
subject in Virginia. I ~hone numberwasalso [inked ito an ~l?a~,doned car at
Dulles that had informa~~,pn ab~~ other terrorism :\uSPfcts. l j .I !
It is possible that the ~jj'~ckersch6s.d 1.~ine>put~fthJ 12 tb /1~ inspectorsthat
would be workin at One time at DuU~s. INS did not fdrce ~o!wear the full INS

as also wamed ebout hanging a."


baseball cap in his' booth. The FBI was not able to,. det.e~in~ itt
~as hangip~ a
baseball cap in his booth during the time period that the t#jaqkem: went through Dulles .

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..----- ..I~onsulted with the US AttorneY:SQffice,\\iOOtheaPinion was-that there


was not enough to chargel ~~th a crime orhold "~ifp\..o~ ~/h1aterial \yitness warrant.

They looked at the allegations of SPOUS:~:::~


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ti\S:~~::-:.~I·· !was interviewed twice, and submitted to a polygraph. On the questions about
\\':.\~\"'~hether)le had prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks or supported the hijackers, he was
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tobenon-deceptive. There may have been some discussion about doing another
~,\\\\ "'< .. '.<\" PQ:iygqlph, btit.i~ was not pursued. .

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I~~iS .i~&.vie;f~. Ilte~Cribed UBL ~~.a:gQOdMuslim, and stated that Muslims do


no~,··t~t1c·l.~~'.~ther".. ~ ..ims, 'I ~ade It clear -,!~at he would never turn away a
Mu·~I.~m~~::.~eeded ...~ell;\ . ....-.
i\ \~ \ ~~a~~:~ mo~~u:"~~ Iwhere most;ikdy ~e became radicaJ~zed. SA
\\ \\\ \\~on~c,~~.d eltheF}h _'-. lan<;t~hey characterized the
\:, ~~\ ~~mosque ..~ radical.'. .... '-. . "'"

'i \ t \'. IsXied\~i~e:~~count~ied~6meon:


\\ \ \\ ~emel!lbere ..d..him fro.~ ....
in his line at Dull:s ~h?
.... .... ~ld not remember this individual,
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b'Ui'"'ihe' person

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\\ \ \\ ¥d been at\~ ..~g~t sch~ol.1 fjl~ not -.provide a date for the incident at Dulles.

had n~~rous disci rob\e~i


terns, the INS did not

\\ ", '\ Ihad a per~~~~.Irelati~'fl:ship with Said ~ag~ah. Witnesses reported that there were
\\ private meetings ~t.w.een the ~o at the mosque.j IRageah and their families
\\. traveled together tel ....1 .....

"\I '; kecalled \~t there was a phone link to Anwar Aulaqi. It did not turn out to
\\ be signi"ficant ~~ \. I,did 'not recall the details.

\, There is no indi;~'t,on thad' '. lev~~"!I'ained in Afghanistan. He did.have prior travel to


\ \ the Midd'~e East. W~en he l~,ft the U.S.,,' ltirst went to Bahrain but then moved on
\ ': to Saudi Arabia. .... .... \.

!\ I Ic01d explain hi~'{oreig~ tr~el during the interview. He had also spent time in
':,Israeli controlled areas that contributed to his anti-Israeli views.

I ~id!Wt indicate that'-.he kn~.w that the hijackers had passed through his line. It is
probable tha~ jwould rem~m~eE\USlims going through his line .

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h¥ndl..._ ......lis still expressing his

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\1\"'t~tt~iId~.d nU:~r~~sino~t!€:s in the area. In additi~~to!h~


he also atte~:~aI ~nd-t~~L.I...... ...

This investigat;~ii~a~ ~i~h pri~ty ~ t~e~eeks.~fter 9/11, and FBI management at HQ


was regularly bnefedt"" _, _ lfompIled a Iist.of names from SONY, such as
material witnesses, as we Las vanous watchlists, and thenames were cross checked
against a list of an the peo}J~ who had been processed thro~gti lline at Dulles.
There were numerous hits, and-each of them were run down, but none of the results were
of concern. '<::" \ .

... ---- .....krsonal opinion ~:~t"""'~liiIoWI'It be sure that there is not something
behind all the suspicious coincidences witfi stated that if the
resources were available.he would still cove'
mail contacts." ~- .....

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