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Kodaikanal Diary
19
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May, 2014






Divine Discourse
Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba






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Below is the transcript of a Divine Discourse given by Bhagawan Sri

Sathya Sai Baba towards the end of His Divine Visit to Kodaikanal in His
Light Body from 12-21st May, 2014, a famous hill-station in the state of
Tamil Nadu, India. Over 100 students and guests accompanied Swami.
Every day, He spoke on various topics.
A gentleman was asked to speak before Swami. He was very emotional
and could not hold back tears at being in Bhagawans Divine Presence.

If you cry in front of children like this, what will they think of
you?
Swami did not realise that one week has already passed, because
there was so much joy Swami experienced here through all of us.
This morning, Swami was reading some letters which were kept
on His table. Swami pulled out one letter. The letter is written in Hindi
by a boy.

Priya Sai,

Pehle main pranaam aapke charanon mein anantakoti pranam. Swami,
main vinati karta hoon ki aap hamaare Bidar main teen shaala sthapana
karaayein. Swami, main vada karta hoon ki main is shala main apni seva
karoonga. Mere pas jitni shakti hai, utni seva karoonga. Magar mujhe
Bhagawan jitna shakti diye hain, utna karoonga. Main maan loongi ki
Swami, aap shala sthapana karenge.

Apka priya baccha,

Mahadev
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(Dear Swami,

First, I offer my pranams at Your Feet. Swami, I pray that you
establish a school in my Bidar. Swami, I promise that I will serve in
this school. I will serve to the maximum of my capacity. However
much energy you give me, I will serve to that extent. I presume,
Swami, that you will establish the school.

Your Beloved Child,

Mahadev)

Stand up, Mahadev. Where are you? As such you are short. If
you sit there, who can see you? This boy did Sai Baba role in one
drama, Cheppinatlu chestaara? Swamis Telugu drama. In Kannada
they have done that. He has acted like young Sai Baba.
Yesterday Swami asked, Should I set up a school in Bidar? Will
you like? And today you write the letter saying, I promise, Swami.
Please set up this school. I am already assuming that you are setting
up this school. There is no request here. I will work! (Applause)
Bhagawan called Narasimhamurthy in the morning and said,
See there is one boy requesting for a PU College in Bidar. What shall
we do? Should we make a school there, or should we make a PU
College?
Narasimhamurthy submitted to Swami, There are a lot of
schools coming up in North Karnataka. In Gulbarga, Bijapur,
Bagalkot, and we are even going to have one in Belgaum. Then, it is
better if we have a PU College in Bidar.
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Today, Swami declares that in three years time, Swami will start
a PU College also in Bidar. (Loud applause)
(To the boy who wrote the letter, Mahadev) You study well and come
back to Bidar. That is your own home-town, and serve in the
institution. Are you happy? Ok, sit down.
God is always willing to shower His Grace on everybody, but
somebody has to pray for it. He needs only an excuse a karanam
that is, one reason for somebody, a pure-hearted person to pray. The
moment that prayer happens, immediately God is there and all His
assisting Gods, Goddesses, and Angels are there to come and execute
the tasks.
You children, you might think that you are ordinary children
saamaanya purushulu ordinary men. That is because you only know
so much about yourself. You are not saamaanya purushas, you are
shuddha purushulu. You are all attained or yogi purushas. Not ordinary
boys. You are all yogis. Many of you have written, I have done
nothing, Swami. Why are you showering so much of Grace on me?
Such letters, a lot of children have written. If I were to tell you very
briefly what you have done in the past, it will take one year for Me to
narrate each persons life.
In the Treta Yuga, when Lord Rama was on a mission to rescue
Mother Sita from the clutches of the Demon-King Ravana, He was
helpless because He had no army, no weapons, no chariot, no
kingdom. He and Lakshmana were two ordinary men walking,
searching for Mother Sita in the forest. He met Sugriva. He conquered
Vali.
Finally, Sugriva offered His whole army for Lord Ramas
mission of rescuing Mother Sita. But the army was not enough. The
number of soldiers in Lanka was more than one lakh (100,000),
whereas Sugrivas army only had 6,000 monkeys.
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There was no way Sugrivas army could have fought such a

battle, that too so fierce, because the demons had a lot of weapons.
They also had a fort from where they could fight. Rama was not even
having a chariot, not even having proper shoes to walk on that rough
terrain.
They had to build a bridge to reach Lanka because they did not
have any airplanes to fly across. All these efforts had to be put in. It
was not easy.
Then, Rama called Sugriva and told, I cannot manage with
6,000 monkeys. We dont have weapons. We dont have armour. We
dont have chariots. How can we fight such a big army of Ravana?
Sugriva said, Rama if you command, I will go across the
country, talk to all the Monkey Kings and I will collect all the monkeys
possible in the country and bring them to Your Feet.
Rama said, Yes, while some monkeys build the bridge, you go
around the country and collect as many monkey soldiers as possible.
So Sugriva, jumping from one tree to the other, went all the way
to the Himalayas and came back, to collect monkeys. How many
monkeys came, do you know? It was not 50. Not 600. Not 6,000. But
60,000 monkeys came from all around the country to the shores of
India.
And do you know how they fought? They did not have any
weapons. So they collected a lot of stones and a lot of sticks. One
monkey would throw the stones, the other would hit with the sticks.
That was the war strategy. Two monkeys would attack one rakshasa.
That is how they fought. One would hit would the stone. The other
would hit with the stick, on the head. This is the way the monkeys
fought, because there were no weapons.
Every evening, hundreds of monkeys would die because they
would be slaughtered by the weapons of the rakshasas.
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And every evening, Lord Rama would walk, after the fierce
battle of the tiring day. There was a rule of the battle, that when the
sun set, you had to stop the fight for that day. When the sun rose, the
fight would start again. No lunch, no tea, no coffee, no tiffin. You had
to keep fighting till the end of the day.
So then, Lord Rama would walk and all the monkeys who were
dead on the shores of the sea, He would bless them personally by
touching their heads with His hand, and those monkeys that had any
life left, they would tell Rama, We could not win the battle for you,
but give us another opportunity so that we can fight again and win
for you. And they would pass away. Then other monkeys would
carry them and bury them. That is how the war was fought.
Though the monkeys were small, only 2-3 feet tall the rakshasas
were 8-9 feet tall, sometimes even 12 feet tall. They were huge! That
is how they fought the war. The rest is history, how Lord Rama won
over the Kingdom of Lanka. He offered His badge to Vibhishana and
did not rule over that Kingdom. This is the gratitude that Lord Rama
carried in His heart. Avatar after avatar after avatar.
Rama was an adarsha purusha. He was the ideal example of a
man. Your relationship with Swami goes back to those days with
Rama. However, some of you are still remaining monkeys only. That
is why you keep jumping all around. I keep watching from above.
Today, like monkeys, they were all sitting on the garden there, eating
their food. They did not sit on tables and chairs like humans. So
Swami got reminded of those days when these monkeys would hang
around in the jungle, on the beach, and they would be eating their
meals for the day. The only thing is that, now they know how to wear
pant and shirt. And the tail has disappeared! (Laughter)
When the Lord has so much of gratitude for His devotees, for
His sevakas, His servants, how much gratitude should servants have
for having got this opportunity to serve the Lord?
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They can see Bhagawan and they know His presence in His
place. And a lot of beings are there in the sky of Kodaikanal. One with
an antara-drishti, with inner vision, can actually feel the presence of
these Beings and even see them, if need be.
Once, Kasturi asked Swami, Swami you are here. It must be
very lonely in Kailasa and Vaikuntha.
Swami said, No, where I am, that is where Kailasa is! That is
where Vaikuntha is! And Swami said, Andaro ikkade unnaru All
are right here. In the sky, all are there.
If you meditate and you develop that inner vision, the third eye,
you will be able to see beyond the physical. Then you will be able to
see.
Like all the science students now. There is visible light. There is
a frequency, a wavelength which is visible to us. There is light below
and above this range, which a common eye like ours cannot see. Not
only light. Take sound. There is a range within which we can hear.
Anything more than that range or below that range is inaudible to
human ears. Because our ears and eyes are tuned to only a certain
range of wavelengths or frequencies. But it does not mean there is
nothing existing below or beyond this range. Your limitation is only
so much. The yogis, by the power of their yoga, their meditation,
developed the capability to see what is not seen and to hear what you
cannot ordinarily hear. That is why these people quickly understand
the presence of other creatures.
All are there. Gods are there. Demi-gods are there. Even sub-
demi-gods are there. There are servants of these Gods also who are
there. These are all like departments in a company. There is a water
department, electricity department, fire department. There is a
department for land and a revenue department. Likewise, in Gods
mechanism also, these many departments are there. There is a God
for rain. There is a God for sun. There is a God for water.
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There is a God for air. There is a God for Earth. There is a God
for life. There is a God for death, for crops, for health, for wealth, for
education. All these are various kinds of Gods that are there, and each
God or Goddess does His or Her job accordingly.
All are here right now, in this holy atmosphere, and if one
meditates deeply, one can feel the presence of all of them.
Why I am telling all this is, to let you know that what is seen
alone is not real. What is not seen is more real than what is seen. The
world which is not seen is far, far, far bigger than the world that is
seen.
You are sitting in this room. You cannot see beyond the walls of
this room. That is the world that you are living in. Once, either the
wall is broken, or you can walk to the other room, that is when you
can see what is in the other room. The difference between you and
Swami is, He is sitting in the other room. You have to open the door,
walk into the other room to see what Swami is doing. This door is the
door of the mind. If you look inward and if you meditate, this door
opens. Once it opens, you can see the inner world, which is far bigger.
Many people have taken to the path of meditation and they have
experienced such things in their life. They have seen Gods,
Goddesses. They have seen demons. They have seen Angels. They
have seen a lot of other Divine Beings in various places. Otherwise,
you tell me, why would somebody worship a stone Ganesha, a stone
idol, if there is no Ganesha in it? Why would somebody offer a sari to
a Goddess in a temple, if there is no Goddess to accept the sari? Why
would we feed milk to a stone snake if there is no snake inside the
stone?
All these offerings, all these things finally reach God in another
way. We do yagna, that is, we do fire oblation. Fire is like a postman.
Whatever we put into the fire, it converts it into energy and takes it to
the Being to which it is being delivered.
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That is why mantras are very important. Each mantra is like a

postal address, written to that particular God. So we have a separate
mantra for Ganapathi, separate for Shiva, separate for Durga or
Saraswati. That is how all poojas are performed, so that it reaches the
right person.
Suppose you have a problem of water at home. Would you write
to the water department or the electricity department? If you write to
the electricity department, your problem will not get solved.
Likewise, if you want to pray for your buddhi, you have to pray
to Ganapathi. If you pray for shakthi, you have to pray to Shiva. So
this is the way these various Gods have been prayed to for various
works.
You know who is the boss of this company? I, in my Divine
Form. I am the Boss of this whole company. (Applause)
Next year again, Bhagawan will come to Kodaikanal. Swami
expects all of us to go back to make others feel they also should be
ideal boys like these, so that they also get an opportunity to come to
Kodaikanal with Bhagawan. Now, we may go away to our respective
campuses, but always have this firm faith that Swami is in you, above
you, around you, and within you. He is only one call away. If we call
sincerely, from the depths of our heart, He will make Himself
available the very next moment. That experience you must develop
before you come back again to Swami. Talk to Swami. Pray to Swami.
Write to Swami. Whatever you do, it will reach Swami, if it is done
with a pure heart. Purity is the greatest wealth that one human can
ever develop. Any questions are there?

Student: Swami, suppose telling a lie makes ones situation better.
What should we do then?

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Swami: I will answer this with a story. There was a king who was
known for his ill-temper. If anybody told him anything that did not
please him, he would behead that person then and there. The king got
a son, a new-born baby, and a lot of astrologers were called to tell
about the future of this baby. Many astrologers came, and one such
came and said, O King! Your son has a very short life. And what
did the king do? He cut of his head. He said, You are giving me such
ill news!
Another astrologer came. He had heard about this kings ill-
temper. He said, O King! You have got a great son. Because he has
brought you good fortune, you will live longer than your son. And
the King gave him gifts and awards.
You should not tell a lie. Telling a lie is definitely a sin, because
Truth is the only dharma. Telling lies is adharma. But tell the truth in a
way that will not hurt others. Do not tell a lie. God has given you a
head to think. Head of Shankara. Use that intelligence to answer in a
way that it should not be a lie.
Once a person called a priest. Can I smoke while I am praying?
The priest said, You are wrong. You should not do this. Such a thing
is a crime, and sent him off. The other person came and asked, Can
I pray while smoking? Definitely! You can do that. Both mean the
same, but the way you say it, it depends on that. So remember, never
tell a lie. Tell the truth, even if it is bitter. But tell in a way that will not
hurt others.
A lot of teachers will tell the student, You are very poor. You
are poor in studies. That is not the way. They should tell, I think
you can do much better than what you are doing right now. I see that
potential in you. If you work hard, you definitely can do better. That
will give the student the courage to study. Saying that, You are
wrong! You are wrong! is negative. Negative thoughts should not be
developed at all.
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Negative thoughts are like parasites. They will sit on you, they will
drink your blood, and they will become stronger and stronger, and
you will become weak.
Remember, you are strong. You are daiva putras. You are born
out of the Divine. You are Gods children. So there cannot be anything
negative in you. That is what Swami Vivekananda always said, Be
strong! Be strong! Never bring any negative thoughts. Negative
thoughts are very dangerous. Even if you seal all the windows and
doors, and leave a one inch gap in the main door, mosquitoes will
enter. What is the point of sealing all the doors and leaving a small
gap somewhere? Seal it fully. Let no negative thoughts ever enter
your mind. Always think positive. If you lose something, you must
think like this, I have to work harder. That is the lesson I have
learned. It is not that I am incapable. If you see your brothers
winning, you should feel happy that they are your brothers and they
have won, or they have scored better than you. You should not
develop jealousy. Always replace all negative thoughts with positive
thoughts, because there is only positivity in Divinity. Negativity is
demonic.

Student: Swami, how can we detach ourselves from worldly
desires?

Swami: What worldly desire do you have? At such a small age,
what worldly desire do you have?

Student: We get attracted to everything, Swami. Like, sometimes
while doing bhajans, if you see something outside, you will get
attracted to that.

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Swami: Life is like a vessel. You can only fill so much of water in it.
Suppose you fill that with water, there is no place for milk. If you fill
it with milk, there is no place for water. The more the world gets in,
the lesser the place for God. The more God gets in, the less will be the
place for the world. It is a limited-capacity vessel. Attachment to all
other things come because of fickleness of mind. Mind has the habit
of running outwards. It doesnt want to go inwards. It is like a little
child. The more you tell it to sit inside the house, the more it wants to
get out of the house.
There was a small child that was making a lot of noise in that
corner. How much ever the mother was telling, he was not willing to
sit inside. He wanted to run outside. This is the nature of the mind.
One can learn to detach oneself by training the mind. In one day,
nobody learned to how to walk, how to talk, how to ride a bicycle,
how to cook food, how to read a book, or how to drive a car. All these
things have been learned over a period of time. The idea is to be
careful. The moment you get a destructive thought, watch yourself.
That is why Swami gave you all watches. It is not for seeing the
time. It is to remind that every moment, you have to watch your
words, actions, thoughts, character, and heart. What you are thinking,
what you are saying, what you are feeling, what you are doing, where
you are going all these have to be watched all the time. The moment
you watch that the child is running out of the house, you have to catch
the child and bring him back inside the house. If you dont watch, the
child will run and disappear in the forest. So, being watchful of your
thoughts is the way to get your mind back to what you want to do.
You have to practice.

Devotee: Swami, my pranams at Your feet. You put this question in
my subconscious ever since I was in school.
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Swami, there are billions of people, some who belong to the

Islamic sect, some who belong to the Jewish sect, some who belong to
the Christianity sect, some to the Parsi sect, and other religions that
we dont even know about.
Swami, there are people around the Kaaba. Swami, there are
people who are serving the Kaaba. There are people serving in the
Holy Land in Israel. There are people who are all around the shrines
of Zoroashtrianism as well.
There are people who staunchly do namaaz prayers, who leave
work and go and pray their namaaz no matter how important their
work is. I know so many friends who are Muslim who take 40 days
every year no matter how big their business and serve in going and
doing jamaat, Swami. You have promised in the Koran that whoever
reads the Kalma will be free from the bondage of life.
Swami, they are very devout too, but you have chosen these 150
people in this room, Swami to show your Omnipresent Self. There is
not a dilemma. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for personally
inviting my wife and me. We dont know what we have done to
deserve this Grace, and we hope this Grace remains on us. But can
you throw light on this situation, as to all those beautiful people who
have also served you. How come they are not here, at Your Lotus Feet,
Swami?

Swami: Have you seen fish? Have you seen the Ganges? There are
fish in the Ganges. But do they attain moksha? There are mosquitoes
who might even bite Swami, by drinking Swamis own blood. Do they
attain moksha? Do cockroaches inside Swamis room, who are always
in the presence of Swami do they attain moksha? No, no. In
Kodaikanal, there are a lot of insects that enter Swamis room, but do
they attain moksha? No, no.
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There was once a big businessman, who was very, very devoted
to Lord Shiva. Every Shivarathri, he would go to Kashi and do all the
poojas to all the Shivalingas available in the whole area of Kashi. Then
he would go and take a bath in the Holy River, and then come back.
After he went back, again he would go and do the same business. He
would cheat people. He would lend and borrow money. He would
charge a lot of interest, which is unethical, and if not, he would pick
up their household items and things like that. And every Shivarathri,
he would come back again to Lord Shiva to wash his sins in the Holy
River.
One day, after many, many years also, he was not able to get rid
of his greed for money. He was thinking, despite so many holy baths,
so much worship, so many hours, why was he not able to do that? He
was feeling very bad. He was crying and praying to the Lord. The
Lord appeared to him in his house. The Lord said, What is it that is
troubling you so much? Why are you criying?
He said, Lord, I am going every Shivarathri to Kashi and
worshipping you as Vishwanatha. I am bathing in the Holy River. I
am doing everything possible. Why is it that I am not able to get rid
of this greed, and why is it that I am not experiencing joy? The Lord
said, The problem is that, whenever you plan to start for Kashi, the
greed inside of you stays back in your office. You go bathe and come
back. Once you come back, the greed again enters you. It is like a
ghost, which sits here in the office, and when you come back, it again
enters you.
Such kind of worship, which is not purifying the evil qualities in
us, doing it for 40 days or 400 days or 40 years is also not going to
help. Every moment should be worship to Lord Shiva. Every moment
should be offered to Lord Shiva. Not many have the purity of heart.
They might have a pure, bright body outside, but they dont have the
inside very pure.
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Ask all these people being devoted, what are they praying to the
Lord for? They are praying to the Lord that their business should
grow. They are praying to the Lord that they should get children and
grand-children. They are praying to the Lord that their families
should be wealthy and prosperous. They are praying to the Lord that
they should become ministers and prime ministers and presidents.
Such people will never experience this joy of Divine sannidhi
(proximity0, because their prayers are directed towards a particular
goal.
In the Bhagawad Gita, there are four types of devotees that come
to the Lord. Aarthis, that is, those who are coming for a cure, physical
or mental ailment, they want it to be cured. Out of pain, they come to
the Lord to cure them. A lot of devotees have come to Bhagawan like
this. Why go beyond that?
Then there are arthaarthis. These are the people who want wealth
or prosperity. For that sake, they come to the Lord. Many have come
to Bhagawan for that, and Bhagawan has also blessed them for their
prayers.
Then there are jigyaasus, who want to know the ultimate Truth.
What is behind the maya of the world? What is behind the curtain?
They want to come to the Lord so that He parts the curtains and
shows them what the Reality is. They dont come for pains and wealth
and other such motivations.
Finally, there are people who are gyaanis, who know that the
Lord is all compassionate, who is all Divine, who is all Love. They
only come to enjoy that Divinity, that Love, that compassion of the
Lord. They only come to experience the Lords Love. They have
nothing to expect or give.
Knowingly or unknowingly, most of you are in that 4
th
category
of people who have come only to experience the Love of the Lord, and
have no ulterior motives or desires behind your coming here.
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That is what you all are here. I have no other qualification for
any devotee. But I bless all the four categories because the one who
gets 20 marks in the exam, now he will get 40. The one who gets 40
marks, may get 60. The one who gets 60, may get 80. And the one who
is getting 80, may get 100. They are all at different levels of their
evolution. But all are my children. I have equal compassion for all. It
is just that they are still lagging behind, and Swami is slowly moving
them forward.
If a child is hungry and you tell him to study mathematics, do
you think the child will study mathematics? First, you feed him, give
him what he requires. Once he is satisfied, only then will he study.
For example, yesterday it became dinner time. A lot of children
were hungry. Nobody was listening to Umesh Raos speech. He said,
for them, food is important. So I give food to them. For some, family
is important, so I give family to them. For some, business is important,
I give business to them. For some people, only I am important, so I
give Myself to them. You have to be in that fourth category, who only
come for Myself. You all have come for Swami, and that is why you
all are here.
Out of millions of people, only one or two develop such kind of
desires. So it is not a surprise that out of how many ever crores of
people on Earth, only 150 are here in this bungalow. (Applause)

Swami: Any more question?

Student: Swami, as it was said in the Bhagawad Gita,

yatra yogesvarah krsno, yatra partho dhanur-dharah
tatra srir vijayo bhutir, dhruva nitir matir mama

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(Meaning: Wherever there is Krsna, the master of all mystics, and wherever
there is Arjuna, the supreme archer, there will also certainly be opulence,
victory, extraordinary power, and morality. That is my opinion.
Bhagawad Gita, Chapter 18, Verse 78)

Dear Swami, You are with us as Sai Krishna, but still we are failing.
What does it mean, Dhanur dharah?

Swami: Parthas duty was to fight the war. If he would not have
picked up his bow and fought the war, he would have failed in his
duty. As a student, your duty is to study well, behave well, be
disciplined, be humble, and be ideal. If you do your duty, I am always
with you to give you success. As a teacher, your teacher is to teach
well, to behave in an ideal way, to be compassionate, to be loving, and
impartial to all the students. Then, I am there with you also to give
you success. For people running business, their duty is to run it in an
ethical way, in a moral way, without breaking the laws, without
hurting the interests of others. If they run businesses like this, then I
am there with them too. There is a singer. His job is to sing in a way
that pleases the one who hears, and sing with all his capacity and all
his ability. If he does that, I am with him. In this way, there are
doctors, engineers, teachers, students, drivers, cooks, gardeners,
security. All of them, if they do their duty well, I am there with all of
them. The problem starts when you dont do your duty well. That is
when there is no success.
Even the sunlight is there. If you dont open the doors and
windows, your room will remain dark, and slowly, cockroaches,
mosquitoes, scorpions and snakes will enter there and make it their
permanent dwelling.
So, if you do your duty and open yourself to the Grace of the
Lord, obviously there will be success.
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As Swami explained a while earlier, the essence of the whole

Bhagawad Gita, is mama dharma (my dharma), the first and the last
shloka. If you do your duty, the Lord will be with you, and success
will definitely happen, there is no doubt about it. Arjuna only
represents a person who fails to perform his duty out of attachment
for the world, attachment for himself. That is when the Lord comes
and reminds him, through the Bhagawad Gita, that he must do his
duty. Only then, will I be there with you to grant you success in your
endeavours. That is the essence of this shloka.

Devotee: (Very emotionally) Swami, I have a deep prayer in my heart
before I ask this question. We have experienced your Divinity, Love
and Bliss when you were in body, and you have left the body. We
have given a lot of messages, 180 messages, and a lot more messages
through many books. These messages will help those people who
havent seen your body and experienced your Divinity. Can you give
us an opportunity to take these messages to relevant schools and
colleges by reading them out day in and day out?

Swami: I have only one message: the message of Love. Reading out
messages can help you, but it is like allopathy. It will have a
temporary cure. The permanent cure is, I have given this opportunity
to you to be a teacher, a warden, a caretaker of my students, my
institutions. If you rather pass on My Love through you to all My
children, you would be spreading this message of Mine much more
efficiently. That is more like homeopathy, which will take time, but
will cure you completely. Dont try to apply these bandages and
balms. Look for the real reason for the sadness, for the grief. The real
reason is lack of Love in the hearts of people. You develop this Love
and give that Love to others, and the world will believe that I have
not gone anywhere.
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I am living through you, through the Love you are giving to all
that come across you. That is My more important message.
Whatever you want, you can definitely read out to others. But
more important is that you have to live My message of Love, and let
you be a channel of My Love to reach out to My students. I am the
tank. You are the tap. If you dont deliver pure water in the tap, in the
same form to My students, then My students will go thirsty, and they
might think that the tank is empty. No. The tank is always full. The
tap is faulty. So, you become My messenger of Love, and not
messenger of books. Books people can read, but Love people can feel.
Go to Bagalkot and serve there with all My Love. Give it to all the
children who have not experienced Me.
It is the greatest responsibility of all those who have seen Me and
experienced Me while I was in the body, that the same Love and
experience they must spread to the others, through their own life. This
is a great responsibility that we must all decide to shoulder, and that
is all Bhagawan expects to live the Message, not talk the Message.

Professor: Swami, in two days time, I will be back in Prasanthi
Nilayam, and obviously my coming to Kodaikanal will no longer be
a secret.
There will be a lot of questions from my students, colleagues,
friends, and family, as to what I have experienced here. I seek your
advice in this regard, Swami.

Swami: Tell fearlessly what you have experienced. If there is a
mistake, only then there has to be fear. There is no mistake, so there
is no scope for fear. Tell what your heart has witnessed. For those who
ask sincerely, ask with feeling, let them know that there is a way to
experience Swami still, and that is through the path of humility and
open-mindedness.
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If somebody is humble and broad-minded, definitely he will

understand. There is no point in chanting Vedas to buffaloes. They
will not understand anything. Teach them to those who will
understand. For the others, silence is the best answer.

Devotee: Swami, every Avatar has some purpose. Sathya Sai Baba,
when He was in physical form, there was a purpose, and it was to
spread Love, and we all have experienced that Love. There are
questions in our mind, that in this Form, what is Swamis purpose?

Swami: The purpose that was there, whether I was in body or not
the body is just the same. It has not changed. Whether I was Rama or
Krishna, Allah, Jesus, Buddha, the purpose has always remained the
same. I have come for transformation of the human heart, and that I
continue to do. If there were circumstances in which I could have
stayed in the physical body, I would have continued to do the same
things. There would not have been any change.
Unfortunately, for loka kalyana, for the benefit of the world,
Swami underwent a lot of trouble. There is a law of karma, like the
rules of a game. For example, in a cricket game, one has to stay inside
a line to hit a ball. If he crosses the line, he can get out. Similarly, there
is a race. Till the whistle is blown, nobody should start. In a traffic
signal, when it is red, all vehicles must stop.
There is a rule to everything. Otherwise, there will be chaos. The
rule of the Universe, which is bound by time, space and
circumstances, is the law of karma. Every action has a reaction.
Whatever you think, you say, you do, there is a resound, reflection
and reaction to it.
Out of My compassion, a lot of the karma of these devotees, I took
upon Myself.
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Every time you write to Me saying, Swami cure me of this, save

me from that, all these what you had to suffer, somebody in the
Universe has to suffer. That is what I underwent, which made Me give
away that old car much sooner than I desired. However, I continue in
this new car towards the same destination for which I had started,
right since the beginning of time. The destination is the
transformation of human into Divine. Dont ever think it is only
opening educational institutions under the name Sathya Sai, or
opening medical facilities under the name Sathya Sai, or giving
drinking water only under the name Sathya Sai.
All good work is Gods work. I am not bothered by name or
fame. Sathya Sai is not important for Me. Even hospitals, schools,
water projects, Narayana Seva, bhajans, all are not important to Me. If
after doing all these things, there is no transformation, it is of no use
to Me. I am creating these opportunities for my students, teachers,
doctors, nurses, engineers, and all the others, lawyers, only because
they will think more of the others by participating in these works, and
think less of themselves. When they become less, less, less of self, they
will become selfless one day, and they will become Divine. That is
why I am creating these opportunities.
Think of it. If there was no Kodaikanal trip, would you have
spent seven days thinking only about the Lord? Thinking only about
these good things? You would have lived your life in the ordinary
fashion, as you were living earlier. I create these opportunities only
for transformation. It is not to favour somebody or to disrepute
somebody else.
It is not that I like some children and I dont like the others. It is
just an opportunity created, which helps you participate in service,
which make you selfless. Love lives by giving and forgiving. Self lives
by getting and forgetting. Swami wants you to become selfless so that
your heart is full of Love.
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Just now I told the teacher, your greater responsibility is to give

Swamis message. Swamis message should become your life and
then you should spread it.

Student: Swami, how can I control my mind and ego?

Swami: What is your age?

Student: 14, Swami.

Swami: Ego is a feeling of I. There are three stage of ego: Small I
is the body. Medium I is the mind. And the greatest I, that is the
Divine I, is the Divinity or Self. This is what has been called Dwaita,
Vishishtadwaita, and Adwaita - dualism, special non-dualism, and non-
dualism. You tell where you dont understand, okay?
There is a factory owner. He has a factory which has a machine
which produces plastic cups, for instance. If you are an employee of
the factory and the owner is different, then you are an employee and
there is an owner. So there are two people. Now, suppose you are the
son of the factory owner. Then you know that the factory will come
to you. You are a part of the factory owner. And finally, if you only
are the owner of the factory, then there are no two things. You are the
only one.
The best way to get rid of ego is, start thinking that you are the
servant of the Lord, that is, the employee of the Lord.
Everything that has been given to you has been given by the
Lord and you are here only to use it in a dharmic way, without hurting
anybody, helping always, and all these good things.
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Slowly, you should develop a feeling that, I am not just an

employee of the Lord. I am His son. He is my father. Therefore, it is
my duty to look after His factory. Then, the ego will become special,
that is, from more human, you will become more Divine. Finally, one
day you will realise that you and your Father are One. You are only
Divine. It takes time.
The best way to get rid of your ego is to think that you are the
servant of God. Everything that you have been given - education,
mind, body, every breath has been given by Swami. That is what
Hanuman said, When I think I am the body, then I am only a servant
of the Lord. So He remained humble. When I am a jiva, that is, a
part of You, then I feel I have come from you. I am a part of you. And
finally, He says, When I think I am Atma, then you and I are just the
same. It is different stages.
For you, at your age, the best thing to do is, either assume, I am
a servant of the Lord, or still better, I am the son of Swami. So if
my Father is like this, I cannot be different from my Father. If my
Father is Love, I also should develop Love. If my Father is all
positivity, I also should develop positivity. If there is anything
negative coming in you, then it is unbecoming of you, as a son of
Swami. So you should just avoid that. This will help you get rid of
your ego, eventually.

Swami: Em Subbulakshmi? Neeku leda, doubts? You dont have any
more doubts? He has only one doubt. How to say, No, when he
looks at sweets.

Subbulakshmi: It is a genuine doubt, Swami, because I have
promised that before your birthday, I will reduce my weight. I cant
control my hunger, Swami. (Laughter) I am being honest, Swami. I
cannot control my hunger.
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I need guidance from You so that I follow your command, thats

a simple command, and reach my ideal weight, Swami. What do I
need to do?

Swami: There is nothing wrong in being hungry. You are supposed
to become hungry. If you are not hungry, then there is a problem. If
you have a body, it has to be fed. A car has to be filled with petrol,
otherwise it will not move. Hunger is not a problem. Desire is a
problem. Hunger is in the stomach but desire is in the mind.
Eat what does not cause you to put on too much of weight. Each
satwik food. If you eat satwik food, it will help you. This rajasik food is
the trouble. In small age, like these children, it is okay to eat rajasik
food, because the body requires a lot of energy, as it is growing. But
after a certain age, the body stops growing. It stops growing vertically
and it starts growing horizontally. It doesnt go up, it only goes
sideways. So then, you should not feed it with these rajasik foods.
With age, you have to change your diet. An old man cannot keep
eating ice cream, chocolate and all these kind of spicy things. The
body will not support. Children are allowed.
(To the children) You dont go and start eating satwik foods. But
as you grow up, you have to exercise caution. It is also to do with
disciplining your mind and Ceiling on Desires, which is what will
help you ultimately to give up all attachments. This is just a small test
and you are going on failing in it.
Eat what is satwik. That will help you. Dont eat all kinds of
rajasik stuff. Next to you there is one yoga guru sitting. You should
learn from him. (Laughter) What is your age, sir? What is your weight?
His age is 66, but weight is only 56, because of satwik lifestyle. You
dont eat too much of all kinds of things. Maintain a discipline.

Swami: Ramgopal, neeku em doubt leda? You dont have any doubts?
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Ramgopal: Doubts em raledu, Swami. Swami ninchi nerchkondanu. (I

dont have any doubts, Swami. I learned from you.)

Swami: Because he reads a lot of books, he already knows
everything that Swami has spoken. What Swami had spoken, the
same thing Swami is speaking. There is nothing new in it. Many
people who have lived with Swami earlier, we easily understand that
there is nothing new that Swami speaks. What He has already said,
the same thing Swami repeats. I am the same teacher. The students
are different, so I have to repeat the lesson again and again.

Student: Swami, many times when we come to service, we feel, I
should do it and not he. I have a doubt. Is this selfishness? Is it good
to have that selfishness for God?

Swami: There is no selfishness when it comes to God because, One
can own God and others cannot own it, such a thing does not exist.
God is there in equal measure for everybody to experience. He is like
a river that is flowing. You can only have so much of water, as big as
your vessel. If your vessel is small, you will have less. If your vessel
is big, you can collect more. It has nothing to do with the size of the
river. Not one single person can have all of God for Himself, because
nobody can take away all the Divinity for ones own self. You cant
afford to become selfish in that way.
When it comes to service, yes, you should be the first to grab the
chance to serve, and not wait for the others to follow. But if you see
that another brother wants to do the service, the greater selflessness
would be to get that joy of doing the service, and you derive the joy
out of seeing the joy of your brother. That is a better attitude.
(Applause)
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But then, I know some students will take it in the other way.
They will say, You only go and serve. And they will sit peacefully.
That is wrong. You should be willing to serve. But if there is anybody
else wanting to do it, you should have the heart to allow him to allow
the service, and you take up some other service. There is no dearth of
service.

Swami: Tigrett, you have no doubts?

Tigrett: No.

Swami: Good, Tigrett. So many years he has been with Swami, that
all doubts have been cleared. Very happy.

If you have any doubts ever, and it is coming as an obstruction
in your understanding or in your growth, you should fearlessly write
to Swami. In some way or the other, Swami will come and clear your
doubt - through a friend, through a teacher, through Swami Himself,
through a book, through Narasimhamurthy, or anybody. If you have
a doubt, dont let that doubt lie like this in the mind.
These are the foundation years of your life. If the foundations are
weak because of doubts, how can the building be strong? Clear all
your doubts. Have a firm, strong foundation on which you can build
as much as you want. At this age, at this juncture, do not keep any
weak or stumbling stones in the foundation because of doubts. Let it
be perfect, so that whatever you build on it, it will last forever.
Swami has enjoyed this trip to Kodaikanal. It has given Him so
much of joy to see all the children, teachers, and all His beloved
devotees so close to him, because now it is very difficult for people to
understand and experience this.
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Only those who have great love for Swami and great humility,
only they have this opportunity to experience these things. Protect
these feelings in your heart as you protect a candle in the wind. It can
go away any time because the breeze is so strong. So be very careful
to preserve this feeling in your heart and carry it wherever you go,
and spread this light of the candle to all the dark corners of the world.
This is My blessing and message.
We will go group-wise. All of you should assemble there.
Whatever the groups have been decided, we will take photographs,
so that we can keep it with us as a memory of this wonderful
Kodaikanal trip.
Every single session, the first question Swami has asked is, Did
the boys eat? Are they happy with the food? Every single session,
He has asked the food to be tasted, and only after the elders were
convinced that it should be given to the boys, did He say, Boys
should be given.
Swami has taken every single precaution. He has asked, How
are they sleeping? Is there enough space for them? Are they feeling
cold? Do they have hot water to bathe? Are they having enough space
to sleep and keep their things? and kept on feeling bad that He has
not been able to provide enough for His students, and they have had
a very, very tough time staying in Kodaikanal. (Students all respond,
No! Swami.)
I know. You are saying like this because you are all very good
children. You dont want to complain.
Next year, so that things are much smoother, we will bring the
Dining Hall right next to this building where all of you can eat
together, and you dont need to sit like monkeys on the fence.
Because, seeing you, real monkeys have come in! They will take away
your plates.

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As soon as possible, Bhagawan will build small, small cottages

right outside this bungalow so that you all dont have to stay in those
unhealthy, negative places, because a lot of people stay outside. It is
not a good vibration there. It is not a good thing to stay outside. If you
stay near Swami, you all will be very happy. It will be a positive place,
and you all will be protected.
All will not get the opportunity to come back again. Asking only
for yourself will be selfish. So take it that this was an opportunity
given to you. Keep it in your heart. Preserve it. Next year, Swami will
give opportunity to some other boys, because they also should
experience and become better. But you can go and share this joy and
all the lessons that you have learned with your friends. It should not
happen that all that you hear from this ear comes out of the other ear
by the time you go to your campuses. It should go into your heart and
stay there. Digest it.
We will start the photo session. Batch by batch.