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to importantaeronauticalandmilitary authorities, to a number

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anything of import:ill_beLaggmplihed
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geese
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to insure its disregard by nearly all the
persons addressed;
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present writer has several university degrees and was formerly

a
ment head!.
A vary serious situation
available.
The
university depart;71
may develop at any time with regard to the Jilying
augg;g,f,_ If one of these shculd be attacked, the attacking plane will almos_E5:
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be destroyed. In the
public
suspicion.
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mind this might create near panic and internat~

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anewspaper
July 9,
alleged to
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represent
camera.
Agent A!~>a.t
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August
which
time
original negative
Craftsman Service,
was given by him to a

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International News
Service. BILLY
ment with
Mr. BROWN whereby the
8, 19L? by Special"
BILLY informed that th
Mr. BROWNof the Photo

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to the
advised that
he has an agreelatter will
share equally
in any
profits derived'fromthe use of the negative by commercial firms
br newspapers.
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remuneration for
August 8,
the use
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third floor
around noontime
newspaper articles
at L10
on July
pertaining to
West
8, l?h?.
flying discs
to anortheast
direction. He
said the
black
object
by two smaller objects
which also
proceeded in
same direction.
BILLY explained
avery
fast speed which appeared
the snnar-I
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19h? BILL!
of this
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to
sit on his front
porch
in
the hopes of seeing one
and attempting
to photograph
it. On
July 8, 19h? BILLY observed
alarge,
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moving rapidly
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said that
they were much higher than the
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of Norfolk
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above the clouds, and that a white
mist
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they could
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toy balloons
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definitely these
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firrunistanrml 9292'hls'h
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looked and moved more like 1football. lreing rounded and oral. rothl
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picture from the porrh of
his
homo i
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cl0rk
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be 410 West.
of
at second.
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[lying dlswn and I|'llll'CI
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nor the using an ohl vamrra, 92rllh- theshutter set at 1/100111
shown here was followed li_r two iiiiii
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followed made
any sold the flying football
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sound.
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miles
an hour and he guessed
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he saw the object.
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the large
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roekln f-1 lie called
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didn't believe him. con
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that lid a fine
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the old camera he was l
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lover, Hill said he took three shots ft sing.
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closely cxamlnetl l
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the tail-1 about
law
was
in
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which
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after
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the directing
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sailed and
reports,tnese thing
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part i
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days and
home if possible.The Federal Agents the un.
enemy under cover

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should investigate each instance which is brought

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the
approximately ll:30
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9,
1947,
the off
in Ins Angeles had received information

from the
California, that
a"flying
disc had landed in
or
seen to burst into
ame when
it
landed. Fbrther,
of afire
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advised at
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in some woods, this
fire either
Resident Agent at
near Burbank and been
that ithad
been the cause
in Burbank or possibly
in the
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Les Angeles, which Mk;
Hood
could not be certain.
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chief
at Burbank had called the resident
agent at Burbank and told him he vould
hold the
disc
for ms. 76
Coincident with
the information
received from
Burbank, the Los Angeles
Office received
calls from
the newspapers requesting information.
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stating they
had called the Armir
Air
Force Intelligence
who had stated "we are
not interested",
According to
Ur. Hood, this comment had aroused the newspapers
and they stated they
intended to
publish this
quotation and
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Iirstissuess llr.
Hoodstated
that
he had refrained from making anystatement
to the press other than to admit possession of an object and that it

was being
turned over to military
authorities in
the
morning this AM!, it being Mr.
Hood's
opinion that. he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not
one to the
effect that
we were
not
interested.
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to him,
Ir. Hood
stated
disc about 2'

in
diameter weighing about
ten
and having some sort of e radio tube in the
in possession
of the
military authorities
the above
resident agent
that
the
object was
an
aluminum
pounds, painted with aluminum paint;

center of the es,
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at Burbank
and would
be
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were. the t1l92&#39;_v&#39;a

garlui, at-burr. are thtn

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tal I noticed all

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rnake nut the number or Inca-

5rnund Theylnnlrerl lake

the. nunrner here at I34 N.

but nut cnrnmen-tally, he aaill

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oh to acknowledgeruooiptwi your lotto:-_ post-

, 1947, together with its enclosure.

Inasmuch as the information which you furnished is

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DATE-=August 12, 194&#39;?

"Flying Discs or Saucers, Miscellaneous, TelephoneCell from Hr.

at the Bureau at 8:30 a.m.,

The secondreport was received by this offic

Army Air Forces. On that occasion calling

an object in the shape of

The disc might be made of a substance

silver airplane dope material.

endof the shaft is a very small propeller. In

might possibly have been made by some Juvenile

stated that he desired to return the contraption to

over to the Army Air

This information was telephonically

Arny, Chicago AC of S G-2

The above constitutes the only two instances in

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ANU THAT OUR bLATTI.E

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to importantaeronauticalandmilitary authorities, to a number

present writer has several university degrees and was formerly

may develop at any time with regard to the Jilying

mind this might create near panic and internat~

no matter how fantastic

it may seem to minds not

was given by him to a

BILLY informed that th

Mr. BROWNof the Photo

profits derived&#39;fromthe use of the negative by commercial firms

they were much higher than the

average plane travels in

BILLY was interviewed

No. 1.2, dated July

have been large balloons.

not necessary that he raise""

hi: headin orderto seethem from

mnt and it was necessary that

up almost perpenaccounts for

he stoop and look

image which he photographed.

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were. the t1l92'_v'a

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DATE-=August 12, 194'?

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profits derived'fromthe use of the negative by commercial firms

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'g Special Agent

West Coastnei papers recently '

z'e_c0v|d_13;l1 b_,, 1l_3;I__=1':_ EB~B1I91y31:

that the Air Foeggsggvo z:'Fdit5.E293l i1form

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ibi5P1 ifM"ll'El0Eil-Biliitl tis

~wan #$"*' &

south ofths . .'-outh

Ill I.l.ll. l'..,

The Lnfomatlon set forth ia'your'letter