The Eighth House and Its Implications by DR e S Neelakantan
The Eighth House and Its Implications by DR e S Neelakantan
The Eighth House and Its Implications by DR e S Neelakantan
by
Dr
E
S
Neelakantan
Three
undesirable
houses
in
a
horoscope
are
the
Sixth(ruling
debts,
diseases
and
enemies),
the
Eighth
(ruling
over
life,
misfortune),
and
the
Twelfth
(ruling
over
failure,
loss
expenditure).
Contrary
to
what
everyone
believes,
the
Eighth
house
does
not
represent
death.
Because
the
Eighth
house
is
an
undesirable
house
and
death
is
an
undesirable
event,
people
wrongly
understand
that
the
Eighth
house
represents
death.The
day
I
had
dreaded
has
come;the
final
loneliness
is
here.
wrote
Pearl
S
Buck
in
A
Bridge
for
Passing(1962).
In
this
sentence
she
describes
the
death
of
Richard
Walsh,
her
husband,
articulating
her
emotions
as
the
survivor.
A
practical
perception
on
death
occurs
in
the
Mahabharata.
To
the
question
What
is
the
most
wonderful
thing
in
this
world?Yudhistira
responds:
Ahani
ahani
bhutani
gacchantih
yamamandiram|
Sesah
sthavaram
icchanti
kim
ascharyam
atah
param||
[Every
human
sees
that
many
living
entities
die
every
moment,
but
still
that
human
imagines
that
he/she
is
permanent
and
make
elaborate
arrangements
for
pleasure.
That
behavior
is
the
most
wonderful
thing
in
this
world.]
In
Stillness
speaks
Eckhart
Tolle
writes:
Death
is
not
the
opposite
of
life;the
opposite
of
death
is
birth;life
is
eternal
(page
103).Tolle
offers
a
remark,
in
passing,
on
reincarnation:
Reincarnation
doesnt
help
you
in
your
next
incarnation
if
you
still
dont
know
who
you
are
(Ibid,
page
52).
Self-realization
can
take
place
only,
when
you
are
in
this
physical
body.
In
The
Power
of
Now
Tolle
explains
this
with
an
analogy:
If
you
saw
an
angel
and
mistook
it
for
a
stone
statue
all
you
would
have
to
do
is
to
adjust
your
vision
and
look
more
closely
at
the
stone
statue
not
start
looking
at
somewhere
else.
You
would
then
find
that
there
never
was
a
stone
statue
(,
page
164).
Satyam
bruyat:
priyam
bruyat;
na
bruyat
satyam
apriyam
(speak
truth;
speak
what
is
pleasant;
never
speak
an
unpleasant
truth)
is
an
ancient
Sanskrit
adage.
An
intelligent
practitioner
of
astrology
will
not
predict
death.
An
average
astrologer
cannot
foresee
the
death
of
a
person.
So
it
is
better
that
a
client
ceases
to
seek
an
answer
to
this
question
since
neither
of
the
two
can
direct
the
client
to
the
right
answer.
A
misconception
that
usually
prevails
in
both
scholars
and
students
of
astrology
is
that
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
house
existing
in
either
the
Sixth
or
the
Twelfth
house
will
offer
viparita
raja
yoga.
I
cannot
understand
how
this
yoga
is
so
grossly
misunderstood.
If
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
House
exists
in
either
Sixth
house
or
Twelfth
house,
will
not
the
persons
longevity
get
restrained?
If
a
person
does
not
live,
then
who
will
receive
the
fruits
of
viparita
raja
yoga?
Note
that
lord
of
Eighth
House
in
house
Eight
bears
good
effects:
the
sarala
yoga.
Presence
of
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
House
in
houses
Six
or
Twelve
is
a
major
affliction
in
a
horoscope.
Note
that
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
House
should
be
strong,
but
for
longevity
to
exist
in
a
chart,
the
lagna
lord
should
be
stronger
than
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
house.
Esoteric
meaning
of
Eighth
house
Instead
of
my
elaboration
on
the
esoteric
meaning
of
the
Eighth
house
and
its
implications,
I
would
rather
allow
the
reader
to
have
a
look
at
the
views
of
Vaughn
Paul
Manley,
which
offer
insights
into
the
functionality
of
the
Eighth
house.
If
you
were
to
discuss
the
prospects
of
the
Eighth
house
with
an
astrologer,
he/she
will
only
offer
skeptical
thoughts
on
it.
Let
us
look
at
Vaughn
Paul
Manleys
analysis
on
the
connotations
of
Eighth
House
in
his
article
entitled
Transformation
and
change.
Manley
says:
The
Eighth
House
has
earned
the
dubious
reputation
as
an
undesirable
house
in
Astrology.
It
is
the
one
capable
of
causing
most
damage,
even
death,
and
its
hard
to
get
more
morbid
than
that.
It
can
be
summed
up
as
the
house
of
change
sudden,
dramatic
and
intense
change.
As
a
society
we
love
the
kind
of
drama,
which
the
Eighth
house
provides,
as
long
as
it
involves
someone
else!
Even
though
it
is
valid,
from
an
astrological
standpoint,
to
explain
the
effects
of
the
Eighth
house
as
malefic,
it
is
our
attitude
about
that
change
that
is
critical.
Our
happiness
is
internal.
People
are
disturbed
not
by
things,
but
by
the
view
they
take
of
them,
writes
Greek
philosopher
Epictetus
(1st
century
BC)
Astrology
reveals
the
likely
outcome
of
our
external
situation,
but
not
our
internal
reaction
to
it.
That
is
our
choice,
from
a
moment
to
another.
Either
we
choose
to
be
the
victims
of
our
fate
or
we
rise
above
it.
Similar
to
compost
taking
time
to
transform
from
biological
waste,
the
blessing
the
Eighth
house
would
offer
takes
time
to
be
revealed.
According
to
the
Dalai
Lama,
Sometimes
not
getting
what
you
want
is
a
wonderful
stroke
of
luck.
We
all
know
of
people
who
have
lost
their
dreams
only
to
find
that
something
better
was
awaiting
them,
if
not
immediately,
but
eventually.
Carl
Jung
says,
Whatever
is
not
conscious
will
be
experienced
as
fate.
Rules
governing
the
Eighth
house
Condider
these
three
planets
Lagna
lord,Eighth
lord
and
Eleventh
Lord.If
these
planets
occupy
a
quadrant
or
a
trine
or
the
Eleventh
House,
longevity
is
assured.
The
lord
of
the
Tenth
house
is
the
lord
of
karma
how
is
it
useful
in
offering
longevity
to
a
person?
If
a
person
has
a
long
career
ahead
of
him,
should
he
not
be
alive
in
the
first
place?
Now
we
will
discuss
three
rules,
which
help
resolving
the
question
of
longevity.
When
the
lords
of
the
lagna,
and
Eighth
and
Tenth
houses
are
strong
and
at
the
same
time
not
influenced
by
Saturn
in
any
manner,
the
person
will
live
long.
When
out
of
the
three
planets
viz.,lagna
lord,
lord
of
the
Eighth
House
and
the
Tenth
lord,
only
two
are
strong,
life
span
will
be
of
medium
length.
When
none
of
them
is
strong,
longevity
could
be
said
as
absent.
If
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
bhava
occupies
a
dustana
(6,8,12)
in
conjunction
with
a
malefic,
the
person
will
be
short
lived.
Please
understand
the
subtle
difference
between
what
was
discussed
earlier
and
this
rule.
If
the
lord
of
Eighth
bhava
is
in
8,,
longevity
will
be
there,
more
so
if
it
is
aspected
by
a
benefic.
If
a
malefic
conjoins
the
Eighth
lord
in
the
Eighth
house,
then
the
person
will
be
short
lived.
Rekha
yoga
The
result
of
being
born
in
Rekha
yoga
is
that
he/she
would
forbear
neither
knowledge
nor
wealth;
he/she
would
be
penurious,
hostile,
lustful,
and
wrathful;
his/her
mind
always
remains
distressed;
he/she
is
disagreeable,
having
neither
charm
nor
grace;
he/she
is
crafty;
he/she
lives
in
alms;
he/she
is
filthy
and
quarrelsome;
he/she
is
full
of
envy
and
rage;
he/she
verbally
abuses
God
and
educated
people;
he/she
will
be
detested
by
his/her
own
family.
The
following
astrological
combinations
give
rise
to
Rekha
yoga:
When
the
lagna
lord
is
weak
and
aspected
by
lord
of
the
Eighth
House
and
if
Jupiter
is
combust.
When
benefics
occupy
the
6,8
and
12
bhavas,
while
the
malefics
occupy
either
quadrants
or
trines
and
lord
of
Eleventh
house
is
weak.
When
lagna
lord
is
weak
,while
the
lords
of
8
and
9
are
conjunct
in
Fifth
house.
The
above
list
is
illustrative
only.
Please
note
that
in
all
the
above,
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
house
has
a
major
role
to
play
in
subjecting
the
person
to
deprivation
of
good
things
in
life
and
humiliation.
Eighth
house
in
Charts
of
Females
Mars
in
the
Eighth
house
in
a
chart
of
a
male
will
cause
his
death,
but
not
that
of
his
wife.
In
the
chart
of
a
female
(who
is
married),
Mars
in
Eighth
House
will
result
in
the
death
of
her
husband,
but
has
no
bearing
on
her
longevity.In
charts
of
spinsters
this
rule
is
inapplicable.
In
the
chart
of
a
female,
Eighth
house
denotes
MangalyasthanaSo
a
male
who
has
Mars
in
house
Seven
can
marry
a
female
with
Mars
in
house
Eight.
But
a
female
with
Mars
in
house
Seven
or
Eight
should
never
marry
a
male
with
Mars
in
the
Eighth
house.A
girl
who
has
Shuddha
Jataka(meaning
absence
of
a
malefic
in
7
or
8)can
marry
a
boy
who
has
Mars
in
Eighth
house.
A
word
of
caution:
when
Mars
is
in
Eighth
house,
if
other
pointers
to
longevity
are
present
in
a
male
chart,
that
person
will
be
long
lived.
Merely
because
Mars
in
8,
one
should
not
jump
to
a
conclusion,
without
examination
of
other
pertinent
factors,
such
as
presence
of
benefics
in
quadrant,
strength
of
lagna
lord
and
aspect
of
benefics
on
the
Ascendant.
When
the
lagna
lord
is
also
the
lord
of
the
Eighth
House,
it
will
offer
results
of
being
the
owner
of
lagna,
when
it
is
strong.
This
point
gets
clarified
by
the
explanation
given
by
Mantreswara
in
Phala
Deepika
(Ch.
15,Verse
10).
Take
Aries,
for
instance.
When
judging
the
chart,
proceed
on
the
assumption
that
Mars
is
the
lagna
lord
and
ignore
the
fact
that
it
owns
Eighth
house.
I
am
giving
this
clarification
here
because
at
times
clients
ask
me:
Mars
is
in
the
Ninth
house:
should
I
view
it
as
lagna
lord
in
9?
Can
we
take
it
to
be
the
eighth
lord
in
9?
The
answer
is
:-
it
is
the
lagna
lord
in
9.
A
rule
of
thumb
is
offered
by
Jaimini
to
ascertain
longevity
of
a
person.
Let
us
consider
the
Lagna
lord
and
the
Eighth
lord
as
a
pair:lagna
lordeighth
houselord
(in
short,
LE
pair).
Long
life
is
indicated
if
this
pair
occupies
movable
signs.Alternatively
one
of
them
should
occupy
a
fixed
sign
and
the
other
a
common
sign.
I
shall
explain
this:
Longevity
is
indicated
if
the
LE
pair
occupies
either
movable
signs
or
two
dissimilar
signs
other
than
a
movable
sign.If
the
LE
pair
occupies
two
common
signs,
medium
span
of
life
is
indicated.Same
is
the
case
if
they
occupy
two
dissimilar
signs
other
than
a
common
sign.
If
the
LE
pair
occupies
two
fixed
signs,
a
short
span
of
life
is
indicated.
Same
is
the
case
if
they
occupy
two
dissimilar
signs
other
than
a
fixed
sign.With
this
theoretical
discussion
on
the
Eighth
house,
let
us
proceed
to
discuss
a
few
charts
with
a
view
to
gaining
conceptual
clarity
with
reference
to
Eighth
House
prospects.
Chart
1
belongs
to
a
person,
who
is
nearing
90
and
active.
Lagna
lord
is
in
the
Eleventh
house,
while
the
eighth
lord
is
in
own
house
both
pointing
to
long
life.
Applying
the
Jaimini
logic,the
LE
pair
occupies
movable
signs
a
definite
pointer
to
the
person
living
a
long
life.
Chart
2
is
that
of
a
businessperson,
who
died
when
he
was
90+,
who
was
also
active
till
the
end.
When
a
debilitated
planet
is
in
retrograde
motion,
it
gives
the
effect
of
an
exalted
planet.In
chart
2,
it
is
the
debilitated
lagna
lord,
which
is
retrograde,
thereby
becoming
strong.
Further
the
Eighth
House
is
strongly
aspected
by
Jupiter
from
the
Second
house.
A
long
life
was
experienced
by
the
chart
holder.
Now
to
chart
3
;In
this
chart
Mars
and
Ketu
occupy
the
second
bhava
and
therefore
the
chart
is
governed
by
Kuja
dosha,
which
is
dreadful
in
a
female
chart
because
of
its
tendency
to
make
the
person
a
widow
(subject
to
her
not
being
a
spinster).In
this
chart,
Saturn
as
the
lord
of
the
Seventh
house
is
in
the
Eighth
house.As
discussed
earlier,in
a
chart
of
a
female,
the
Eighth
House
denotes
longevity
of
the
male
spouse.In
this
chart
both
Saturn
and
Rahu
occupy
the
Eighth
house.
In
other
words,
this
is
a
chart
where
Mars
dosha
occurs
in
addition
to
a
heavily
afflicted
eighth
house.The
woman
was
widowed
when
she
was
about
36
years
old.
Her
husband
was
healthy,
but
died
suddenly.
Chart
4
belongs
to
a
person
who
lived
in
affluence
but
passed
way
suddenly
while
in
early
50s.The
lord
of
the
Eighth
House
in
the
sixth
did
not
contribute
to
longevity.
A
viparita
raja
yoga
could
be
said
to
occur
here
but
that
did
not
favour
longevity..Mars
is
in
a
common
sign
and
Mercury
is
in
a
movable
sign.
Based
on
the
LR
pair
theory
this
is
indicative
of
short
life
only.
This
could
be
taken
as
an
additional
argument
against
longevity
in
this
chart.
I
have
taken
an
example
chart
for
each
of
the
possibilities
we
discussed
earlier.
I
am
confident
that
the
reader
can
verify
the
rules
in
various
charts
that
he/she
happens
to
either
see
or
discuss.
In
the
next
article
in
this
sequence
we
will
take
up
the
Ninth
house
for
discussion.