Laszlo, my comments and questions regarding your Arrest are below in BLUE -You will be tested as to who you

really are
What you must be prepared for if stopped by law enforcement agents of the State.
A total of three sheriff deputy cars were on site along with 4-5 deputies, one of them their
supervisor and once they saw my documentation they called out to the arrest site an attorney
specializing in international law, and the interrogation drill began.
Dealing with an adversarial Attorney is bad enough, but if they SPECIALLY brought out an
Attorney to interrogate you, then that would be a BIG, RED FLAG waving in my face.
They were stunned by the paperwork I gave them, and stunned by my wallet with my Great Seal.
They were all on their phones running back and forth circling their cars trying to make heads or
tails out of what they were being presented, and one was recording our entire conversation.
Sounds like a CIRCUS, but that does not mitigate the importance of being ON GUARD EVERY
MOMENT.
This is how I answered and you should answer the questions they throw at you without batting
an eye:
1. They were trying to have me testify that I had a plate on the back of my motorized
wagon.
They were told no that is not a tag, but a sign for communication purposes only.
I would have answered NONE of their questions directly. There is a Principle, that he who
ASKS the questions is in charge. Therefore, it is best to answer a question with another
question. The form of a Negative Averment is often helpful.
In this case I would not have TESTIFIED that it was or was not a Tag. But rather ask, Do you
have ANY facts or evidence to PROVE that is a Tag by YOUR definition?
2. They were trying to have me testify that I made my own plate.
They were told that the sign company up the ways made it for me.
Such questions do not even deem a response. They are sucking you into the Merits of the
Case. The ONLY REAL ISSUE here is JURISDICTION.
3. They were trying to have me testify that I was driving on the highway.
They were told I was restricted by registration to traveling in my motorized wagon on the
common ways.
I would have answered, Do you have ANY facts or admissible evidence that I am in Commerce,
and that I was DRIVING on the highway?
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4. They were trying to have me testify that it is not a motorized wagon but a vehicle.
They were told no, I am not in commerce transporting cargo in a vehicle.
Do you have ANY facts or admissible evidence that I am in Commerce, and that this is a
VEHICLE by your definition?
5. They were trying to have me testify over and over, that I was LASZLO HORVATH.
They were told no, I am Laszlo-Istvan: Horvath and I know you are trying to establish
jurisdiction with a NAME, ADDRESS, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER and DOB, and
that account has been closed and canceled.
How, specifically was the question phrased, and did you even have ANY obligation to GIVE
them your name? Because GIVING your name implies that they can USE it to their purpose.
6. They were trying to have me testify and admit that I had a social security number.
They were told that account has been closed and canceled.
Do you have ANY facts or admissible evidence that I am in Commerce, and that I have such a
Number?
7. They were trying to have me testify that I had an address.
They were told I lived in the Horvaths house in the second judicial-district.
Do you have ANY facts or admissible evidence that I am in Commerce, and that I have an
Address?
8. They were trying to have me testify that I had a physical address.
They were told that I receive my mail in C/o Postal Department 652, Sebring, Florida
33871 and the post office has on record as the address the second judicial-district.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?
9. They were trying to have me testify in giving them directions to an address where my
house is.
They were given directions without mentioning any streets or roads.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?
10. They were trying to have me testify as to how long I have been in the State of Florida.
They were told I have been living here on my land without a house number or a mail box
for two and a half years.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?
11. They were trying to have me testify that I was a US citizen.
They were told that I am not under their seal as I was not a subject/US citizen, and I had
my own Great Seal meaning I took full liability and responsibility for my actions covered
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by my silver bond and that I was a sovereign without subjects not subject to the rules of
their roads.
Do you have ANY facts or admissible evidence that I am in Commerce, and that I am a US
Citizen, as defined by YOUR 14th Amendment to YOUR Constitution, which YOU have
ostensibly sworn by OATH to uphold?
12. The attorney was trying to have me testify and admit that my status as a sovereign
without subjects had no authority.
They were told that the authority came from the Treaty of Peace and Treaty of Paris.
I would NEVER go there, except as the subject came up in Court. This is only BAITING you.
13. The attorney was trying to convince me that no such authority derived from the Treaty of
Peace and Treaty of Paris.
They were told OK if you say so.
Now we get into an argument -- the very WORSE thing we can do. It is NOT for me to prove
ANYTHING. It is for THEM to prove that they have JURISDICTION.
14. They were trying to have me testify and admit that I was a person who needed a license
and registration in order to drive on the highways of Florida.
They were told that I was not under the privilege of the State of Florida because that
account has been closed and canceled, and I have waived the right to exercise all
privileges associated with that account and I had a right to travel on the common ways.
Do you have ANY facts or admissible evidence that I am in Commerce, and that I am
REQUIRED to have YOUR License and Registration?
15. They were trying to have me testify and admit that the second judicial-district does not
exist, as there is no such thing as we are in the 10th Judicial Circuit of the State of Florida.
They were told that the second judicial-district is right here in the county, and they said
no it is not; and I said OK if you say so.
Good answer!
16. They were trying to have me testify and admit that I had mental problems, being under
some kind of mental program, or on some medication.
They were told no to all.
You can go and do an impossible act! (If you get my drift.)
17. They were trying to have me testify where I lived before moving to Florida.
They were told that I have lived in Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?

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18. They were trying to have me testify and admit when asked if I have ever been arrested
before in Florida or any other State.
They were told I was arrested before in North Carolina, and South Carolina.
What in HELL are you FISHING for?
19. They came back and said: you did mean arrested in South Carolina only, because there
was no arrest showing in North Carolina.
They were told yes if you say so, I was arrested in South Carolina, and they did not make
me come back to court to require me to get a license and registration.
OK BUDDY WHO IN HELL ARE YOU? -- And what AUTHORITY REQUIRES that I
answer your BULLSHIT questions??????
20. They were trying to have me testify and admit to being arrested in West Virginia with that
NAME because they said they found me in the system of records as being arrested with
that same NAME in West Virginia.
They were told I dont know what you are talking about, as I have never been to West
Virginia.
21. They asked me if I renounced my US citizenship.
They were told yes the account has been closed and canceled and I have waived all rights
to exercise any privileges associated with that account.
How can I RENOUNCE that which I NEVER APPLIED FOR?
22. They were trying to have me testify by admitting that I did not have a license and
registration, by saying you do understand that everyone must have a license and
registration if you are going to drive on the roads and Highways of the State of Florida.
They were told that the motorized wagon was registered in the second judicial-district,
Highlands: the county and I had my operators certification traveling on the common
ways.
Please cite the LAW which REQUIRES me, a Man Standing on the Land, to have that CRAP.
(If they cite a law requiring each PERSON to have those, then please define Person.)
23. They were trying to have me testify that my paperwork was done by someone else.
They were told that no one had anything to do with it except me, they were my papers.
None of your frikking business!!!!
24. They were trying to have me testify as to where I was going over and over.
They were told that I was not requesting entry into the US and I was on my way to visit a
friend.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?

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25. They were trying to have me testify by admitting that my paperwork to the Secretary of
the Treasury, the Sheriff, Dispatch, chief counsel for Dept of Transportation and chief
counsel for their Division of Highway safety had no legal basis, as it was just a Notice.
They were told Ok if you say so.
Nice answer!!
26. They were trying to have me testify in admitting that my Great Seal, judicial-district seal
and IDs had no legal basis or authority.
They were told that it was under the authority of Yahweh.
Care to PROVE that in Court?
27. They were trying to have me testify that I had weapons in the motorized wagon.
They were told no, why would I, I would not hurt them as I have nothing against them.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?
28. They were trying to have me testify that I had friends with addresses.
They were told that I did not recall any addresses.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?
29. They were trying to have me testify that I was born in Hungary.
They were told yes I was created in 1951 in Hungary.
What concern of yours, are MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS?
30. They were trying to have me testify that I did not have any citizenship anywhere and that
they were going to call INS to have me transferred to a different facility for deportation.
They were told that I am in the second judicial-district.
Go ahead!
31. They were trying to have me testify as to my date of birth.
They were told that the date of my creation was in the year 1951.
I DO NOT KNOW when I was born. I could not count at the time.
32. They were trying to have me testify and admit that everyone has an address.
They were told that your grandfather Smith lived in the Smiths house back in those days,
to which they said: that was then, now everyone has an address, and my house is in the
second judicial district confirmed by the post office as I get my mail C/o Postal
Department 652, Sebring, Florida 33871, and that is what they put on the UNIFORM
CITATION and the BOND.
If you say so.

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33. When I went in front of the judge for first appearance, he called me LASZLO HORVATH
and I corrected him by saying that I am Laszlo-Istvan: Horvath. After he read the charges
I said to him that account has been closed and canceled. He proceeded to set the court
date and I said again that account has been closed and canceled and he kept on going.
If he kept on going, it was because you unwittingly gave him Jurisdiction, even if you claim
that you did not. I would have asked, Where is the Prosecuting Attorney? Are YOU prosecuting
this matter? They plead for you, usually not guilty. This is an instance where I would use
their law against them.
I would NOT depend on the Cancellation Process for ALL of my defense. Has it been proven
over and over? I have not heard that it has. So there should always be a Plan B, and even a
Plan C, etc. There is NO Silver Bullet! You have said so yourself. And I certainly do not
expect you or Keith to be infallible. The Beast System has been developed over MILLENIA. So
I do not expect that we will find The Answer over a few short months, or even over the course
of years. I expect to find holes in our knowledge, not complete information.
This certainly is NOT to doubt you, Keith or your discoveries. You have done fantastic work in
uncovering things that have been hidden all of this time. But these types of interactions with
the Beast System continue to reveal that we STILL, after all these decades, do not know all the
answers.
We KNOW that these types of events are fraudulent CONVERSION. But just try to get them
into their PERSONAL LIABILITY.
They were walking around the booking area saying to each other we have a sovereign here.
When I went to pick up my pick up from impound, they asked me for positive ID, and I told
them that everything was taken from me when I was arrested, but I have a copy of what they
took. I showed them my Distinction Card, Registration Certification, Silver Bond, Operators
Certification all issued in the second judicial-district, and they said fine and made a copy of it.
They did not ask for proof of ownership of my pick up or anything else. They would not let me
take the pick up off their lot without a valid Florida license, so I had it towed to my house.
I have mailed my Judicial notice from a man called Laszlo-Istvan: Horvath: holding the office
of the people and also by e-mail, to the three county commissioners in the county, the judge, the
Sheriff, the two Sheriff deputies who arrested me, the clerk of court and the senator for my area
of Florida. I am also e-mailing the Judicial notice to every single county commissioner in
Florida and as time permits to other states on the east coast, and the local paper THE
HIGHLANDS TODAY which wrote a big front page story about what happened. Look for the
jpg file of the two pages. The FBI told them to go pound dirt, as there was nothing they could
do. What the Sheriffs department did is they tried to cover up the kidnapping, torture, extortion,
sedition, felony theft and conversion by pushing it off on the FBI who basically told them to go
pound sand, we have nothing on this guy and even tried to bring in the INS and Homeland
Security. These are desperate people trying to steal our equity and will go to any means to do it
as you are a witness to the misleading news paper article which I am making available. Dont
assume anything, but read it real closely, as they are watching to see if I talk the walk and act like

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a sovereign without subjects with full liability and responsibility, and not an asshole making
claims and charges or filing stupid liens against them.
This is going to send shock waives around the country if everyone gets involved. Send the
Judicial notice to as many people as you know, for them to read and pass it on to others, as I told
the bad guys that they are going to have a thousand new friends after this.
E-mail the Judicial notice to every county commissioner in your county with the subject line
stating: Urgent, important, a real concern for you! In the message section just write:
You should be real concerned about the attached Judicial Notice which applies to you and
everyone else in this county!
Laszlo-Istvan: Horvath
(863) 414-2752
[email protected]

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