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What are the differences between the differential and integral forms of (e.g.
Maxwell's) equations?
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I would like to understand what has to be differential and integral form of the same function, for example the
famous equations of James Clerk Maxwell:
8

How to know where to apply each way? Excuse the ignorance, but always confused me the head.
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Remembering that, I know that the concept of integration and derivation, is something like:
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Remembering that, I know that the concept of integration and derivation, is something like:

electromagnetism maxwell-equations calculus

edited May 19 '16 at 15:47 asked May 19 '16 at 5:15

John Kugelman MarceloBoni
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related: physics.stackexchange.com/q/39419 – MarceloBoni May 19 '16 at 5:30

Hi Marcelo, Proof of equality of the integral and differential form of Maxwell's equation seems to be asking the same
thing as this question. Can you edit your question to explain how it differs? Otherwise I think this question should be
closed as a duplicate. – John Rennie May 19 '16 at 5:37

Well, the question is different, he asked out of curiosity how to solve the integration to reach the derivative, happened to
the answer to the question, he had posted a link that answered my doubts in parts rs – MarceloBoni May 19 '16 at
5:53

My doubts would be more related to when to use, but following the link and reading that passage had my doubts –
MarceloBoni May 19 '16 at 5:55

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The equations are entirely equivalent, as can be proven using Gauss' and Stokes' theorems.

The integral forms are most useful when dealing with macroscopic problems with high degrees of symmetry
15 (e.g. spherical or axial symmetry; or, following on from comments below, a line/surface integrals where the
field is either parallel or perpendicular to the line/surface element).

The differential forms are strictly local - they deal with charge and current densities and fields at a point in
space and time. The differential forms are far easier to manipulate when dealing with electromagnetic waves;

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they make it far easier to show that Maxwell's equations can be written in a covariant form, compatible with
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special relativity; and far easier to put into a computer to do numerical electromagnetism calculations.
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I would think that these three points generalise to any system of differential vs integral forms in physics.

edited May 19 '16 at 15:17 answered May 19 '16 at 6:06

Rob Jeffries
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I would say that the integral form is useful iff you have an obvious integration contour. – DarioP May 19 '16 at 10:40

@DarioP An obvious curve is not enough. You also need a high degree of symmetry. But I guess it depends on what you
mean by "an obvious integration contour". It's not obvious to me what that means. – garyp May 19 '16 at 15:02

@garyp I guess that Rob understood :) Basically what I meant is that since integration is so hard, I either see an
outstanding contour that makes it (almost) trivial, or I leave my hopes. Symmetry helps. – DarioP May 19 '16 at 15:34

Your confusion lies in failing to recognize that they are exactly the same equations. Take for example Gauss's
law
8 ⃗  ⃗ 
𝜌
∇ ⋅ 𝐸 =
𝜖0

You can see that there 𝜌 is the charge distribution, and in general can be a funcion of the position.

Now consider a volume 𝑉 , you can just integrate the density to obtain the total charge in the volume, but you
can also integrate the electric field gradient to get a measure of the electric field

𝜌
⃗  ⃗ 
∇ ⋅ 𝐸 = / 𝑑𝑉
𝜖0 ∫
𝑉

𝜌
⃗  ⃗ 
∇ ⋅ 𝐸 𝑑𝑉 = 𝑑𝑉
∫ ∫ 𝜖0
𝑉 𝑉

Now you can use the Divergence's Theorem on the left side.

⃗  ⃗  ⃗  ⃗  ⃗ 
∇ ⋅ 𝐸 = ∇ ⋅ 𝐸 = 𝐸 ⋅ 𝑑𝑆
∭ ∬
𝑉 𝑆

Here 𝑆 is the surface of the volume and 𝑑𝑆⃗  is the area element of the surface pointing perpendicularly to the
surface out from the volume so the equation final form is

𝜌
𝐸 ⋅ 𝑑𝑆⃗  = 𝑑𝑉
∬ ∭ 𝜖0
𝑆 𝑉

Which convention's aside is the same equation as shown in Wikipedia. You can do exactly the same to each of
the Maxwell's equations using the Divergence's Theorem and Stokes' Theorem

Now which one is which. If you look the equations you will see that every equation in the differential form
has a ∇⃗  operator(Which is a diferential operator), while the integral form does not have any spatial diferential
operator, but it's integrating the terms of the equations.

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Finally as to which one to use, it doesn't matter, because they are the exact same equations and to solve many
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problems you end up integrating the equations anyway. That being said I like to start from the differential
form and if needed integrate the equations
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form and if needed integrate the equations.

answered May 19 '16 at 5:48

Joafigue
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1 This is a proof that the differential forms of the equations imply the integral forms of the equations. If we were being
ultra-pedantic, we would also want to prove that the integral forms imply the differential forms. This can be done, but the
argument is a bit more subtle; the key is to assume that all functions are continuous and that the integral equations hold
for all volumes. – Michael Seifert May 19 '16 at 13:45

All this tells you is that the fields satisfies both the inategral and the differential equations. The two are related
by the mathematical identities called the divergence theorem and Stokes' theorem.
5 So which do you apply? Well, which ever one you want! If you run into an integral, you use the integral form,
and if you're ever asked for the divergence or curl of the electromagnetic fields, you know exactly what it is,
without even trying!

answered May 19 '16 at 5:36

Johnny Logan
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