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The key takeaways from the document are the four phases of tuning SU carburetors: setting the fuel level, centering the jet, balancing twin carburetors, and setting the air/fuel ratio.

The four phases of tuning SU carburetors are: setting the fuel level in the float bowl, centering the needle in the jet, balancing twin carburetors, and setting the air/fuel ratio.

To center the jet, you remove the piston dampers and air cleaners to access the pistons. You then 'flip' the piston to see if it lands with a clunk, indicating proper centering. If not, you loosen the jet locking nut and lower the metering needle slightly to recenter it.

THE IDIOT’S GUIDE TO TUNING SU CARBURETTERS

There are four distinct phases to tuning SU carburetters (carbies).


The first is to set the fuel level in the float bowl, the second is to
centre the needle in the jet, but only with fixed needles, not spring
loaded ones, the third is to balance twin carbies. This step is not
needed with a single carby, and the fourth and last is to set the air /
fuel ratio.
I will discuss each phase separately.

Setting of the fuel level.


SU’s specification for the fuel level in the carby is 3/8 inch below the
bridge.
The level is adjusted in one of two
ways. With the earlier and the latest
floats the metal hinge is bent up or
down to get the desired fuel level.
With the all plastic floats washers are
added or subtracted from under the
needle valve to raise or lower the
fuel level, more washers give a lower
fuel level. When bending the hinge,
be careful that the float doesn’t hit
the inside of the bowl, when assembled.
The manuals say to use a rod of 1/8” diameter between the float and
the edge of the cover, when held upside
down. SU specifies this gap as anywhere
from 1/8” to 7/16”. I have found that 1/8” is
too rich and the best way to arrive at this
distance is to remove the vacuum chamber
and piston, so that you can see the top of the
jet. Pull out the choke, so that the jet is 3/8”
down. Then adjust the fuel level, in one of the
above ways, till the fuel is visible just below
or level with the top of the jet. Now measure the gap of the float to
the lid, for future reference. On my carbies I have found this to be
7/16”. When the float has been adjusted replace the lid on the float
bowl.
THE IDIOT’S GUIDE TO TUNING SU CARBURETTERS

Centering the jet

First determine if your jet(s) need centering. To do this, remove the


piston dampers and the air cleaners, so you can access the pistons.
Now with your finger “flip” the piston up and let it fall back. If it lands
with a clunk, the jet is correctly centered. If it doesn’t then the jet
needs to be centered.

I know of two ways to achieve this.

Remove the vacuum chamber and piston and lower the metering
needle, in the piston, by about 2 – 3mm.
Slacken the jet locking nut, #2. With the
jet fully raised, (no choke), reassemble
the piston and chamber. The piston
should now be slightly up from the bridge,
i.e. the needle is sitting tight on the jet.
Wiggle the jet assembly a bit to ensure
that the needle is down as far as
possible. Carefully tighten the locking nut,
return the needle to its correct position in the piston, the shoulder of
the needle should be level with the bottom of the piston, and repeat
the drop test. You may need to repeat this process, until the drop
test is successful.

Oh, by the way the locking nut is Whitworth.

The second method is to use the centering pin from the SU tuning
tool set.
Rather than labouriously typing the instructions, I will simply copy
them from the tool set.

I have never used this method, mainly because I couldn’t figure out
how the centering pin fitted the jet. Duhhhh! I should have read the
instructions. The old motto applies:-

“When all else fails, read the manual!”


An Idiot’s Guide to tuning SU carbies
Balancing twin carbies.

I know of at least four different ways to balance twin (more) carbies.


Common with all methods is to loosen the throttle disk linkages between
the carbies, so that each can be individually adjusted and remove the air
filters.
The first method is probably the simplest, but with unknown accuracy.
With the links “disconnected” back off the idle screws and ensure that all
throttle disks are fully closed, then tighten up the linkages. I told you it
was simple. Reset the idle speed by turning each idle control screw till
the desired revs are reached. Note that both idle screws need to be
adjusted, the same amount.

The second method is to start the engine, allow to reach operating


temperature and use a small hose to listen to the suction hiss of each
carbie and adjust the individual idle screws until both carbies sound the
same. Good one for us oldies with compromised hearing.

The third method is to use a device called a Unisync, which is basically


an air flow meter.
How this device works is that you
tightly hold it against the input throat of
one of the carbies, adjust the “adjustor”
plate until the indicator bead is about
half way up the reading tube. Then you
place it against the other carbie and
adjust the idle screw until the bead is
in the same place, up the tube, as on
the first carbie. Repeat until both
carbies remain at the same setting.

Using an airflow meter is the optimum way to set the carbies. Now if you
consider the SU carbie to, inherently, be an air flow meter, after all it’s
job is to meter fuel into the engine, depending on the amount of air being
inducted, then the fourth method becomes ideal. To my way of thinking it
is one of the cheapest, most accurate and hence the best way to balance
the SU carbies.

Remove the dampers from the dashpots, take two pieces of soft wire (so
they don’t scratch the insides) bend them, as shown, the zig zag part is
so that they are tight in the tube and don’t wiggle about, insert into them
into the dashpot tubes and adjust till they are both level, then start the
engine and allow it to reach operating temperature. Now you adjust the
idle screws on the carbies, till the wire ends are again level. Lock the
linkage and Bob’s your uncle. You can test the engine over a wide rev
range and the ends should remain level.
THE IDIOT’S GUIDE TO TUNING SU CARBURETTERS
Part 4
Herb Adler

OK, now the mechanical side of the carbies is set up, the final step, of
setting the air / fuel ratio (AFR) needs to be done. This is achieved by
moving the jet up or down, up for leaner, down for richer. I don’t have an
AFR meter, and assume most of you don’t either, so the following is how
you can do it without an AFR meter.
To start with you need to remove the air cleaners, vacuum chamber(s)
and piston(s).
Turn the jet adjusting screw, 1, until the top of
the jet is level with the bridge. This can be
determined by using the end of a steel rule, or
similar, placed across the top of the jet and
bridge. Now mark the adjusting screw and the
carb body, to have a starting reference. I have
a little bottle of white appliance touch up
acrylic paint, that I use. Do this on all carbies.
Now turn the adjusting screw, 12 flats or 2 full
turns, to move the jet down. This is where the
marking comes in handy, you count the flats
as you turn. Reassemble the piston(s) and vacuum chamber(s), making
sure that you don’t mix them up, with multiple carbies.
Start the engine and allow it to warm up to operating temperature. Push
in the choke.
When you push up on the piston lifting pin, 6, the engine will increase its
revs, because it is rich. The correct mixture point is when
the engine speeds up slightly and then drops back in
revs. I used to be able to pick this point aurally, but now
that my ears aren’t what they were I can’t, so I use a
shop tachometer. A lean mix cause the engine to die.

As you adjust one carb, do it by one flat at a time, and do the same on
the other carbs, so that they are in sync. When you have the correct point
on the first carb, then lift the piston on the other carbs and fine tune that
one. The go back to the first carb and check and adjust, if necessary.
Another method, that I use on my car, is to use a Gunson Colour Tune.
This is basically a glass spark plug, that allows one to see the colour of
the combustion. Yellow is rich, blue is good and light blue is lean. Colour
Tunes seem to be contrary, these days, with modern fuels. On my car
they work great, but on a mate’s car they showed yellow all the way to
stalling the engine, by being too lean. I used the tacho method instead.
Replace the air cleaner(s) and go for a long hard drive, up and down a
freeway. If there is popping from the exhaust, when you take your foot off
the accelerator, the engine is a bit too lean. After you get home and the
engine has cooled a bit turn the jet adjusting screws down a half flat to
slightly richen the mix.
After driving the car for a while remove the spark plugs and check their
colour. If they are a biscuit tan then your AFR is correct. White and it is a
bit lean and grey to black too rich.

References
MGB workshop manuals, Haynes or Bentleys, downloadable from here:-

http://www.bmcno.org/manuals/MGB%20Workshop%20Manual.pdf

Tuning S.U. Carburetters, downloadable here:-

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/books/pdf/Tuning_SU_Carburetors.pdf

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