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The counselee feels overwhelmed by his many responsibilities in his church, business, and studies. He feels physically and emotionally tired.

The counselor uses open-ended questions, clarification questions, validation, focusing questions, and presuppositional questions to understand the counselee's situation and feelings.

The counselee feels disappointed and hurt when members of his church leave due to conflicts. He wants to please and control the members to prevent them from leaving.

Bartolo L.

dela Cruz
Benguet State University Graduate School
GC 207-Counseling Techniques

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Counseling Script

Counselor: Hi Bart! Good morning, how are you today? (Open Ended
Question)
Counselee: Good morning too. I’m so busy today.

Counselor: What makes you busy? (Clarification)


Counselee: Busy in many things, such as church activities, our food
business, my schooling and my duty at Bukal life office.

Counselor: Oh, that’s great! It seems that you are overwhelmed with lot
of work. (Sharing Observation)
Counselee: You’re right, I have to wake up early in the morning to open
our canteen then helping my wife afterwards until 7:00 pm. Aside from
that, I have to perform my duty at Bukal Life office as part time
counselor and staff every Wednesdaythen doing my task in our church,
like visitation and sometimes counseling to the member at night and
prepare a message every Saturday night for Sunday service and lessons
to all my bible study every week end and midweek service. In addition to
that, I have to finish my studies every Saturday and accomplish very
requirements given.

Counselor: How do you feel doing such a lot of works at the same time?
(Open Ended Question)
Counselee: (a moment of pause) you’re right! I feel tired and exhausted
physically as well as emotionally.

Counselor: Mnnn! If you don’t mind, would you want to tell me more
about your emotional tiredness? (Focusing Question)
Counselee: Well, I can easily endure physical tiredness because when I
take a rest my tiredness is over, while my emotional tiredness is not that
easy to vanish.

Counselor: What do you mean? (Clarification)


Counselee: Actually, I am tired of handling people in our church. It’s
hard because after I did everything for them, sacrificing some of my
needs just to cater their needs, such as time, finances, and some other
things but when problem comes they just leave the church easily without
exerting effort to resolve the issue, they don’t even try to consider my
effort to minister them.
Counselor: So, based on your story, it seems that you are disappointed if
one of your members in the church is leaving due to some conflict
against the other members. Am I right? (Validatiion)
Counselee: yes, I feel disappointed and hurt.

Counselor: I’m just wondering how affected you are when one of your
leave your church. Have you experienced to be left by someone whom
you love when you are a child? (Focusing question)
Counselee: as far as I remember there is none yet.

Counselor: Have you not experienced leaving by your parents, friends, or


playmates? (Closed Ended Question)
Counselee: Actually, I grew up with the supervision of my parents. They
don’t leave us until we got matured enough and have our own life and
family.

Counselor: Ah, it sounds to me that you have close relationship with


your family.(Clarification)
Counselee: Yah. Indeed, I and my two sisters are very close to each
other. Most of the time, they are my playmates because we live in
Isolated place at the middle of rice field. I have to cross the rice field in
order for me to play with other children in our barangay.

Counselor: Mmmn… (nodding my head)So, you don’t have much


opportunity to play and mingle with another children? (Validation)
Counselee: Yah… but that was during the time when I was 1-10 yrs old,
because when I reached 11 yrs old until high school. Since that time, I
started to mingle with my cousins and other children who are younger
than me.

Counselor: How about the children older than you? (Focusing Question)
Counselee: Sometimes, I play with them, but most of the time I prefer to
be with my playmates who are younger than me because I want to be
their leader or boss. I enjoy matching them into a boxing fight, and I am
the referee. Then if I commanded them to do something they will follow
my order.

Counselor: What I understand was, you prefer playmates younger than


you because you can control them and you enjoy exercising your
authority over them as their leader or boss, am I right?
Counselee: Yah, maybe because I used to be acting as a leader of my two
sisters every time we play, so I carried that role to my other playmates. I
don’t want to be a mere subordinate but to be a leader so I chose
playmates younger than me to minimize opposition because they are
afraid of me. (Validation)

Counselor: Are you afraid of opposition? (Closed Ended Question)


Counselee: No, but maybe I am not use to it.

Counselor: What do you mean by saying “you are not used to it”?
(Clarification)
Counselee: I am not used to encounter opposition since my childhood. I
grew up in a small family where oppositions are very minimal because
we obey the order of our parents faithfully. And also my order follows by
my two sisters.

Counselor: Then, how would you handle if in case that there is an


opposition in your playmates group?( Reflecting)
Counselee: I tried to convince them to follow my order. If he insist and
tried to leave the group I tried to bribe him by giving some food or
money just to stay in our group.

Counselor: What if he insists to leave, how would you feel?


(presuppositional Question)
Counselee: I don’t know but probably I would be hurt.

Counselor: Based on your story during your childhood up to the present


it seems to me that there is a pattern of experienced during your
childhood up to the present. You love to lead people, organizing them
and be their leader. However, every time there is a conflict that threatens
to break the ties of your group you feel hurt and disappointed, same with
the present issue in your church. How would you handle your emotion?
(Reframing))
Counselee: I just ignore it and accept that it is there choice to transfer to
another church. However, I tried every way to convince them not to
leave.

Counselor: would you want to tell me how would you convince them?
(Open ended Question)
Counselee: By encouraging them to settle the issue. If the issue is
between me and the member, I am the one who gave way and ask sorry
just to settle the conflict issue so that the member will stay in the church.

Counselor: Are you comfortable of doing that? (Reflecting)


Counselee: Of course not! Sacrificing my right is very uncomfortable but
I have to do that just to maintainthe good relationship someone must give
up his rights.

Counselor: I have noticed that you are doing everything just to control
them not to leave you and maintain a good relationship in your church. Is
that accurate? (Clarification)
Counselee: yeah!

Counselor: It seems that you are trying to please your members by


sacrificing your rights and giving some foods, finances, and other
services. (Verbalizing thoughts and feelings)
Counselee: Well, that is part of my duty being a pastor in that church.

Counselor: You look like a superman to me, a care taker, trying to fix
everything in order to control them. (Feedback)
Counselee: (pause….smile) mmmm, Maybe.
Counselor: did you please them all the time? (Reflecting)
Counselee: No

Counselor: What happen to those who are not pleased and satisfied?
(Reflecting)
Counselee: They left.

Counselor: How do you feel? (Open Ended Question)


Counselee: Sad, and disappointed.

SOLUTION FOCUS BRIEF THERAPY

Counselor: If God granted your wishes regarding this issue, what will be
happening that is different? (Miracle Question)
Counselee: I would be a happy and effective pastor to my congregation.

Counselor: Have you experienced in some time being happy and


effective in your church? (Presuppositional Question)
Counselee: Yes, when I see the members are growing in numbers, very
supportive in ministry me and have unity.

Counselor: What are you doing during that time? (Presuppositional


Question)
Counselee: The same what I am doing now, but still many time I was
disappointed of some of the members because of the reason that I told
you before.

Counselor: When you rate the number of members whom you


disappointed in 100% how many percent and how many % those
members who are supportive? (Scaling Question)
Counselee: Maybe, 20% unsupportive and 80% supportive.

Counselor: So, your issue is you are being hurt, disappointed and plan to
quit because of 20% member are unsupportive and easily leave the
church. However, you still have 80% who are supportive to you.
(Summarizing)
Counselee: That is why, I still persistent to continue the ministry.

Counselor: then what are you doing now to solve your issue?
(Presuppositional Question)
Counselee: Maybe, I have to accept the reality that I cannot please
everyone, and control their decision because they have their own
decision. Maybe, I have to be happy because I become part of their life
journey before they parted and walk into other direction that God put
them to walk.

Counselor: Will that helps? (Close Question)


Counselee: I think, it will.

Counselor: Is there anything else that you can do aside from acceptance
of your limitations?
Counselee: Well, I have to identify my limitations and learn how to put
boundaries to protect myself and my rights. Then learn to identify what
hurts me to so that I can prevent the pain.

REALITY THERAPY

Counselor: Can you work out that plan faithfully? (Commitment


Question)
Counselee: Yes, I will.

Counselor: Ok, the next time we met, I will follow you up regarding that
commitment you made how you improve your issues. (Setting Follow
ups)
Counselee: Sure.

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