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“The Vow” 201 ‘TESTS OF LOYALTY’ – PICTURE LOCK TRANSCRIPT

THE VOW

Original Language of Script: English

Total Running Time: 55:32

Date Prepared:
08/12/2022

Prepared for:
HBO

Prepared by:
Ellie Diamond

TIMECODE VISUAL AUDIO


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[00:00:07] Nancy Salzman: Hello and welcome. I'm


Nancy Salzman. I'm the president of
NXIVM Corporation and Executive
Success Programs. If you get involved in
a group, what's the word that people
usually use to invalidate the group? Cult,
TITLE CARD: right?
[00:00:25] HBO DOCUMENTARY (Eerie music plays)
FILMS PRESENTS People use the term cult because they
want to devalue a group, but they have no
way of doing it except by putting
unsubstantiated doubt in the minds of
unsuspecting, non-critically thinking
people. If this happens to you, ask, what
are they doing that's bad?

LOWER THIRD:
METROPOLITAN
[00:00:51] DETENTION CENTER
BROOKLYN
Keith Raniere: The zeitgeist of this time
is to put me away for life or have me
[00:00:57] killed.

Producer: What do you mean by the


[00:01:00] zeitgeist of this time?
TITLE CARD:
A PRODUCTION OF THE Keith Raniere: What people in general
OTHERS feel towards me, feel towards the
situation. They don't know why. But I'm
really bad. I'm evil. I'm one of those
people like Epstein and those guys even
worse maybe. Jim Jones, whatever. We
create monsters for comfort. It gives us
peace because we can attribute
something to a monster and put it away.
And the real question. Is, do we have the
character to go beyond our emotions,

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beyond our prejudices, beyond our fears


and see what is true?

(Main Title Music begins)

TITLE:
THE VOW (LETTERS
DISAPPEAR ONE BY ONE)
(Music Ends)

[00:02:52]
(Soft, eerie music begins)
TITLE CARD:
I News: A sensational trial is underway in
[00:02:56]
TESTS OF LOYALTY New York.

News: The explosive trial of NXIVM sex


[00:03:01] DATE ID: cult leader Keith Raniere
MAY 2019
News: Brainwashing. sex abuse and even
[00:03:05] branding.

News: Raniere faces charges including


sex trafficking and racketeering connected
[00:03:09] to a secret society.

News: If convicted, he could spend life in


[00:03:13] prison.

Voice Over: His lawyers say that his


[00:03:18] relationships were consensual.

Voice Over 2: If you have a leader who is


seen as almost mythical and you're
basically being told that you might have to
sleep with this leader of the group, is that
really consent? I don't think it is. But
again, try proving it.

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(Music Builds)
[00:03:29]
TITLE CARD: Voice Over 3: This trial is very much an
TWO YEARS EARLIER attempt to try to understand which version
of Keith Rainere is true.
UPPER THIRD:
[00:03:53 LAKE GEORGE, NY (Music crescendos, ends) (Applause)

Keith Raniere: Thank you. Please be


UPPER THIRD: seated. I am gathering all of you here
NXIVM EMERGENCY because I wanted to talk about some of
MEETING what's going on. You are of sufficient
position in the organization where I think
you deserve to know. And this is
something that has to stay in this room.
And the thing that we can't comment
about is there are criminal investigations
in multiple countries. This is not a small
thing. Supposedly there is an article that is
likely gonna come out in like, the New
York Times. It's like a one sided zero
participation from us. They're just writing
all the hearsay. So, I guess it's hard
because I keep on hoping, you know, you
plan for the worst, you hope for the best.
And I keep on hoping that either people I
knew who were friends or I thought were
different or whatever will come to their
senses and say, this is ridiculous. It's my
belief if people knew me, people knew the
man. There would be, I hope, no doubt
there's nothing nefarious. There's no
abuse of power. I'm a person that walks
around all day worrying about "Am I
abusing power by saying this, by saying
that?" That is my life. I walk around at
night. I cry for hours. We're on the ground.
We are being kicked. There is, there are

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aggressive actions by probably a very few


people coordinated against us. The
question is, how would noble people
handle it? How would, how should we
handle it?

[00:05:36] Clare Bronfman: Just because of the


situation that we're in I would ask all of
you in this room to keep the discussion
LOWER THIRD: about criminal investigations within this
CLARE BRONFMAN room. It's uh-

DATE ID:
7 MONTHS EARLIER
[00:05:48] Keith Raniere: It is demanded of us.

[00:05:50] Clare Bronfman: Yes.


SUBTITLES:
[MARK] So, I heard Keith
[00:05:50] Keith Raniere: That enough?
hasn’t been seen in Albany
for weeks.
[00:06:00] Mark Vicente: So, I heard Keith hasn't
[MARK] I’m pretty sure he’s
been seen in Albany for weeks. I'm pretty
on the run.
sure he's on the run.
[SARAH] What a fucking
coward.
[00:06:11] Sarah Edmondson: What a fucking
[MARK] It’s like he’s gone off
coward.
the map completely.
[00:06:11] Mark Vicente: It's like he's gone off the
map completely.

[00:06:20] Officer: (SPANISH) The FBI had been


looking for him and couldn’t find him. We
were told we could possibly find him
around Nueva Vallarta. That’s when we
noticed… Allison Mack. Who we
recognized from the Smallville series.
After that I started to investigate how he
LOCATION ID:
worked, who were his associates. So now
NAYARIT, MEXICO

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we only had to confirm he was in the


SUBTITLES: house.
The FBI had been looking for
him and couldn’t find him. We
were told we could possibly
find him around Nueva
Vallarta. That’s when we (Sirens)
noticed… Allison Mack. Who
we recognized from the
Smallville series. After that I Officer: We get five patrols from the
[00:06:53] started to investigate how he regional police with two officers each. We
worked, who were his now have agents surrounding the house
associates. So now we only
had to confirm he was in the
house.

Officer 2: (SPANISH) We have a warrant


[00:07:01]

[00:07:02] We get five patrols from the DOS Member: (SPANISH) Can you show
regional police with two it to me?
officers each. We now have
[00:07:04] agents surrounding the house Officer 2: Of course

[00:07:06] Officer: We showed them the arrest


[POLICE] We have a warrant warrant and to please allow us to come
inside to which they refused. So then we
[DOS MEMBER]: Can you went in.
show it to me?

[POLICE] Of course

We showed them the arrest


warrant and to please allow
us to come inside to which
they refused. So then we
went in.

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[POLICE] How many people


are in here?
Officer 2: How many people are in here?
[00:07:18]
[DOS MEMBER] We are four
here, and one in there
[00:07:20] DOS Member: We are four here, and one
[POLICE] Only one woman? in there

[00:07:22] [DOS MEMBER] Yes, one Officer 2: Only one woman?


woman
[00:07:23]
DOS Member: Yes, one woman
[00:07:24] [POLICE] Kids?
[POLICE] Men? Officer 2: Kids? Men?

[00:07:26] [DOS MEMBER] No. DOS Member: No

[00:07:27] We found a closed room. Officer: We found a closed room.

[POLICE]: And there’s


[00:07:29] another woman in there? Officer 2: And there’s another woman in
there?
[DOS MEMBER] Yes
[00:07:30] DOS Member: Yes
[POLICE] And you don’t know
[00:07:30] the man we showed you? Officer 2: And you don’t know the man
we just showed you?
[DOS MEMBER] We know
[00:07:34] him, but he isn’t here with us DOS Member: We know him but he isn’t
here with us
[POLICE] He isn’t in there?
Officer 2: He isn’t in there?
[00:07:36]
[DOS MEMBER] We are five
[00:07:36] women. DOS Member: We are five women

[00:07:38] [POLICE] And why won't she Officer 2: And why won't she open the
open the door door

[00:07:39] [DOS MEMBER] Well DOS Member: Well because she is


because she is scared. scared. Look how you stormed in.

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[DOS MEMBER] Look how


you stormed in.
Officer: We had to open the door by
[00:07:44] force. I went in, searched the room and
We had to open the door by found Keith Raniere in a closet.
force. I went in, searched the
room and found Keith Raniere
in a closet.

[NICKI CLYNE] Let’s go in the


car.
[NICKI CLYNE] We’re gonna
follow them. Nicki Clyne: (ENGLISH) Let’s go in the
[NICKI CLYNE] Lauren’s car. We’re gonna follow them. Lauren’s
[00:08:06] coming. coming.

This is the picture of when we


had him in our patrol car.

Officer: (SPANISH) This is the picture of


when we had him in our police car.
[00:08:19]
News: The suspected head of an alleged
cult now faces charges in the United
States.
[00:08:24]
News: NXIVM posted a statement on their
website moments ago.
[00:08:29]
News: In part, the statement reads, 'In
response to the allegations against our
[00:08:32] founder, Keith Raniere, we are currently
working with the authorities to
demonstrate his innocence and true
character. We strongly believe the justice
system will prevail in bringing the truth to
light'.

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LOWER THIRD:
MARC AGNIFILO Marc Agnifilo: Many of the allegations,
[00:08:50] Keith Raniere’s Defense even if true if you read the complaint,
Attorney don't make out federal charges. And so,
we think that Mr. Raniere is innocent. We
don't think there was any non-consensual,
criminal conduct.

Paul DerOhannesian: But no one's ever


[00:09:02] heard the rest of the story and the other
side of what's happened. I think this case
is going to give us an opportunity to
explain a lot more that the public has
heard.

News: Keith Raniere made his first


appearance and the New York court
[00:09:12] today.

News: Keith Raniere appeared in front of


a judge in Brooklyn, and a judge denied
[00:09:15]
Raniere's request for bail.

News: He's maintaining his innocence. To


[00:09:22] hear him say that, I mean, what comes to
LOWER THIRD: mind.
TONI NATALIE
Former NXIVM Member
Toni Natalie: He's a sociopath. Of
[00:09:27] course, he's going to maintain his
innocence.

Catherine Oxenberg: He doesn't have a


[00:09:30] LOWER THIRD: moral compass. He doesn't know he
CATHERINE OXENBERG doesn't- he can't differentiate. He'll justify
any abuse.
[00:09:36]

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Toni Natalie: The last time I saw Keith


was April 1999, and he said to me, I will
see you dead or in jail. So, he got half of it
LOWER THIRD: right?
[00:09:50]
MARK VICENTE
[00:09:56] Former NXIVM Member Group [Greetings]

[00:09:58] Mark Vicente: You did?


Toni Natalie: I did, I heard the chains
drop.
[00:09:59]

Mark Vicente: So, you guys were looking


[00:10:00] at him? Did he see you?

Catherine Oxenberg: Oh, yeah, we were


[00:10:00] in the front row-.
[00:10:00]
Bonnie Piesse: Did he look at you?

[00:10:04] Catherine Oxenberg: Twice

[00:10:08]
Toni Natalie: He is arrogant and cocky
and believes that this is just another-.

[00:10:09] Woman: Phase!

Mark Vicente: Do you know why he


[00:10:12]
doesn't look broken? There's nothing to
break inside.

Bonnie Piesse: He still believes he is the


[00:10:15]
world's greatest. He's delusional.
[00:10:16]
Mark Vicente: Yeah.
[00:10:17]
Bonnie Piesse: Very delusional.

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LOWER THIRD:
BONNIE PIESSE Mark Vicente: He wants to go to trial
Former NXIVM Member because he likes court movies, a lot. He
likes court movies so much. And he has
[00:10:27] this vision of doing an argument in court.

[00:10:29] Bonnie Piesse: Being like Atticus.

Mark Vicente: And being Atticus Finch


and this 20- to 40 minute- monologue, he
wants desperately to have his moment.
CAPTION: So, he's going to try and go for trial. What
[00:10:44] [SARAH EDMONDSON] Just an ass. What an ass.
wanted to check in, say hi.
[00:10:47] Feeling a little anxious. Mark Vicente: Hey.

Sarah Edmondson: Just wanted to check


[00:10:51] in, say hi. Feeling a little anxious.
I don’t know, I just all of a
sudden had this thought like Mark Vicente: You're worried because
[00:10:51] what if they found a loophole? you think his lawyers are strong.
There’s no way, right?
Sarah Edmondson: I don’t know, I just all
of a sudden had this thought like what if
they found a loophole? There’s no way,
[00:10:57] right?

Mark Vicente: I think we're all


He’s been getting away with accustomed to getting beaten up for so
it for so long. long. We're just assuming we're going to
[00:11:04] all lose.

Sarah Edmondson: He’s been getting


[00:11:05] away with it for so long.

[00:11:06] His lawyers could find a Mark Vicente: Yeah.


loophole and he could get off
somehow.

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Sarah Edmondson: His lawyers could


[00:11:12] find a loophole and he could get off
somehow.

[00:11:22] Marc Agnifilo: DOS is operating on the


premise that for so long women have
calibrated their value in regard to men.
Let's take men out of the sense.
[00:11:25]
Megyn Kelly: Just the notion of getting
branded.

[00:11:30] Marc Agnifilo: Talk to all the football


players who have a branding on their arm.
Are they all in cults? You know what the
[00:11:31] difference is? They're men.

Megyn Kelly: Are you trying to make this


[00:11:34] about-.

Marc Agnifilo: 100% I am. Am I trying to?


It is.
[00:11:35]
Megyn Kelly: So, this is female
empowerment?

Marc Agnifilo: 100%. It's real. And you


know what? And it's the government and
the media are coming down on the
women of DOS. Women have a secret
society. Women brand themselves. And
[00:11:51] they're poor little dears. And they're
victims. When men do it, they're Marines.

(Score rises)

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Marc Agnifilo: We think the government


is dead wrong. We think their premise is
faulty. And we think when the truth comes
out, Keith is going to be acquitted.
Everyone should pay very close attention
to this trial. I believe we have information
the government doesn't have. And so,
everyone's in for a big surprise when the
actual trial takes place. This is probably
the most unique case I've had in 28 years.
[00:12:35] And being a prosecutor and being a
defense lawyer, both, you know, and I've
had some fascinating cases. We worked
on the Martin Shkreli trial.
[00:12:44]
News: Pharma "bro" Martin Shkreli
became infamous for raising the price of a
lifesaving AIDS drug by 5,000%.
[00:12:47]
News: Shkreli was said to be the most
hated man in America.
[00:12:53]
Martin Shkreli: We're, I think, delighted.
Thank you very much, Ben and Marc,
[00:12:57] who's a great lawyer.

Marc Agnifilo: I had Dominique Strauss-


Kahn's case when he was IMF head.

News: Strauss-Kahn was one of the most


influential decision makers in the world.
But a sexual assault accusation from a
[00:13:08] New York hotel chambermaid dashed any
presidential hopes.

(Score grows louder)


[00:13:14]

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News: Moments ago, a Supreme Court


[00:13:19] judge for the state of New York dismissed
charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

News: They could not prove attempted


rape and sexual assault beyond a
reasonable doubt.

Marc Agnifilo: I fortunately have a pretty


good record with my trials, and that's
because I go to trial when it's time to go to
trial. If your client's guilty and the
government can prove it, cut a deal and
[00:13:53] LOWER THIRD: call it a day. I have never had that thought
MOIRA PENZA in this case. This is a trial from the door.
Lead Prosecutor So, the government wants a trial and
they've got themselves a trial.

(Footsteps) (Pages Flip)


[00:14:08] Moira Penza: I view Keith Raniere as a
crime boss the same way I would view
anyone who is the head of an organized
[00:14:10] crime family. To have somebody who is
held up and revered.

(applause)
Keith Raniere: I always feel funny, thank
you.

Moira Penza There's this power dynamic


[00:14:31] that's built in from day one. Being in a
room where there is a picture of Keith
Raniere and Nancy Salzman, everybody
[00:14:39] is wearing sashes. It was a way to
indoctrinate people.

Group: (In unison) Thank you prefect,


thank you prefect.

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Moira Penza With all of this power, Keith


Raniere was able to give orders and have
other people commit crimes on his behalf.
This is what traditional organized crime
[00:15:10] looks like. The Eastern District of New
York has a storied history of bringing
creative, novel racketeering prosecutions,
and we also have this long history of
[00:15:15] Mafia cases.

News: It took prosecutors four trials and


six years to finally win a guilty verdict
against John Gotti.

Moira Penza: So, I was really building off


of a lot of institutional knowledge in terms
of how to prosecute a criminal enterprise.
As we made the decisions of which crimes
to charge and who was responsible as a
member of the enterprise, it very quickly
became clear who the major players were.
These are all women who did have the
opportunity to see behind the curtain
[00:16:06] (Score builds)
and I certainly stand by the decision to
prosecute all of them.

[00:16:12] (Music fades) (deep breathing)

Mark Vicente: We got news that


[00:16:15] something's happening right now. We
assume multiple arrests.

[00:16:17] Bonnie Piesse: Oh, my God. Claire.


Lauren. Nancy.
[00:16:20]
Mark Vicente: I'm calling Ames right now.

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Bonnie Piesse: Superseding indictment.


[00:16:26]
Mark Vicente: These are the superseding
[00:16:28] indictment, the additional indictments.
Okay, that means that online somewhere
[00:16:32] is the entire FBI reports.

Bonnie Piesse: Do you have it?

Person on Phone: 23 pages. It's crazy.


[00:16:45]
Mark Vicente: United States of America
against Keith Raniere, also known as
[00:16:48] Vanguard, Claire Bronfman, Allison Mack,
Lauren Salzman and Nancy Sullivan.

Bonnie Piesse: Organized crime like the


fucking Mafia.

Mark Vicente: Ten counts of


racketeering. Identity theft, harboring of
aliens for financial gain, extortion, forced
labor, sex trafficking, money laundering,
wire fraud and obstruction of justice. It's
absolutely huge. It's way, way bigger than
this stuff we were basically going to them
about. This is the moment. Everything in
[00:17:22] CAPTION: the training that we've been having the
[REORTER] Were you last few years tells you now is the time
[00:17:25] involved in a sex cult? you show up for him. Now is the time you
go to court.

[00:17:32] Reporters: (Inaudible Chattering).

News: Arrested today, Nancy Salzman,


the co-founder and president of NXIVM,
[00:17:42] as well as her daughter, Lauren Salzman.

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[00:17:44] Sarah Edmondson: Lauren, on $5 million


bail. Holy shit. What must be going
through her mind right now?
[00:17:47]
Reporter: Were you involved in a sex
cult?

News: Also indicted today, Clare


Bronfman.

[00:17:59] CAPTION: News: She's the heiress to the Seagram's


[REPORTER] Do you have liquor company with assets estimated to
anything to say? be around $200 million. And for many
years, Clare Bronfman had been financing
[00:18:02] NXIVM and supporting its co-founder,
[REPORTER] Are you Keith Raniere.
worried about going to
[00:18:06] prison? Reporter 1: Do you have anything to say?

(Cameras shutter)

[00:18:14] Reporter 2: Are you worried about going


CAPTION: to prison?
[JUDGE] Ms. Mack, it’s
[00:18:17] represented to the court that News: Well, actress Allison Mack is set to
you are Allison Mack’s have a bail hearing regarding her
mother. involvement with Keith Raniere.
[00:18:18]
[MS. MACK] Yes. Judge: Ms. Mack, it’s represented to the
court that you are Allison Mack’s mother.
[JUDGE] You should
understand that by signing the Ms.Mack: Yes
document you've obligated
yourself to pay 5 million Judge: You should understand that by
dollars in the event that your signing the document you've obligated
daughter fails to appear in yourself to pay 5 million dollars in the
court when she's required to event that your daughter fails to appear in
appear. court when she's required to appear.

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[00:18:29]

CAPTION:
[00:18:31] [REPORTER 1] Anything to
say about the allegations
against your daughter?
Reporter: Anything to say about the
[REPORTER 2] Human allegations against your daughter?
[00:18:36] slaves and accused of human
sex trafficking Reporter 2: Human slaves and accused
of human sex trafficking

[00:18:42]

News: Now the actress was released


[00:18:47] today on a $5 million bond agreement that
was co-signed by her parents.

Reporter 3: Anything to say about the


[00:18:53] charges against you.

Keith Raniere So you're going to go out


[00:18:53] on stage and you're scared you're going
to be rejected?

Allison Mack: Yeah.


[00:18:56]
Keith Raniere: What's the worst that's
going to happen? Really the worst.

[00:19:01]
Allison Mack:I think in that moment, like I
was thinking about that as we were
talking, it feels like I'll be unloved forever.
[00:19:06]
(Cameras click) (reporters chatter)
Reporter 4: Were you involved in a sex
cult?

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Keith Raniere: Wait, wait. It's going a


[00:19:13] little further now. I hear some boos
coming from the audience and some
guffaws, and they have people following
[00:19:20] you and they point to her like that. Allison,
right?

[00:19:23] Reporters: (Inaudible chatter. Shouting)

Allison Mack: I just feel so. It's like such


a rejection. Like so...

Keith Raniere: Well, you're not like.


They're not rejecting you. They're
[00:19:44] rejecting your performance. You are
confusing you with what you do. If that's
removed, you come in touch with a part of
[00:19:54] TITLE CARD: you that is invincible.
NICKI
Reporter 5: Is there anything you want to
say?

Nicki Clyne: We were moving when they


came to arrest Allison. This guy came up
to me, shows me his badge, and he's like,
Is Alisson Mack in there? And when she
saw I was like “Allison, they're here to
arrest you” and she just started shaking.
And then I was like, What do you need?
And they said she needed shoes without
laces. She needed to take off her jewelry.
I thought I was going to see her later that
day. I don't even think I gave her a hug. I
[00:20:50] was just like, I'll see ya, I'll see you in a
little bit. And that was it.
(Score drones)
It's been a very isolating experience
without Alison and also without Keith.

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Nicki Clyne: Hi. I'm Nicki. About five


years ago, my friend came back from
taking this course. We had talked about,
you know, personal growth and things
[00:21:06] before, but she came back, and this time
she seemed different. And I just said, I
want what she's having. I signed up right
away.
(Young Nicki’s voice fades)

CAPTION: People do all kinds of things to get to


[00:21:18] “BATTLESTAR know themselves better. They go
GALACTICA” backpacking in Europe, go to ashrams in
India. I happened to go to Albany- "I
[00:21:24] trusted her, and this was the best decision
I ever made.

[00:21:31] Nicki (TV): Or what? Throw him out of the


airlock like a piece of garbage?
[00:21:36]
Nicki Clyne: Even though I was having
success on TV, I felt like I wasn't getting
[00:21:41] traction.

[00:21:42] Nicki (TV): You got to help him.

[00:21:45] Nicki Clyne: I didn't feel fulfilled. Like I


didn't feel secure in myself.
[00:21:48]
Keith Raniere: Yes.

Nicki Clyne: Another until I took ESP.


[00:21:55]
Young Nicki: Nicki from Albany. Hi.

Nicki Clyne: The way that I relate with


people is a direct effect of what I built with
[00:22:02] Keith.

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Keith Raniere: And of course, you don't


know how much further you can go, but
you do know you can go further. Always
can.

Nicki Clyne: He helped me learn to trust


and learn to love.

(Cheering)

It's important to be part of a community of


people who support each other.
(Cheering echoes, stops) I had come to
rely on that support, and I don't have that
anymore (car door slams). I was here
right before Keith left for Mexico, which he
was fully intending to come back from.
That's one of the lies that the government
told in order to justify that he was a flight
risk. Oh, this is Keith's jacket, I think. He
always walked around in like this big puffy
coat. I was in a physical relationship with
Keith for many years. You know, I kept it
secret. A lot of people in the community
didn't know who Keith's partners were, if
he even had any. But I felt very clear on
what I was signing up for. I wish there was
LOWER THIRD: a way people could see who Keith is. And
SARAH EDMONDSON how much he's contributed to making this
[00:24:18] world a better place through everyone
Former NXIVM Member
he's interacted with. I feel proud of my
decisions. And I stand by them. I know
[00:24:23] how hard that must be for people to
understand, considering the lens through
which this situation is being portrayed.

[00:24:28]

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Sarah Edmonson: I feel responsible for


[00:24:28] Nicki because I brought her in.

Sarah Edmondson: Awesome. Awesome


[00:24:30] possum.

Man: Your possum is finished?

Young Sarah: Not yet, Almost, we're


waiting for her right now.

Sarah Edmonson Yeah. And I brought


lots of people and they did a five day and
they moved on with their life and they're
fine. Nicki's not fine. Nicki has a hard road
ahead of her. The first step to being on
that road is recognizing Keith is not who
[00:25:18] he says he is. I don't know if she'll ever
accept that. And I'm not going to be the
one to tell her she's wrong about that.
She's got to come to that in her own
terms. So, I can't control it.

(Car honking, footsteps)

Emily Saul: Hey, copy looks great for


NXIVM. Two things: So “Grandmaster” is
LOWER THIRD: one word and it should be capitalized. So,
EMILY SAUL Journalist, I started covering Brooklyn Federal Court
for the New York Post. We're known for
New York Post
our headlines. My understanding when I
first started was that what drives a story is
it's supposed to have like a "Hey Martha"
kind of quality, which apparently is this
sort of quintessential like American couple
who's reading the paper every morning at
the table. And you're supposed to have,
as it was told to me, the husband, like put

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down his paper as his wife is making him


breakfast and go, "Hey, Martha, you won't
believe what I'm reading in the paper!"
and this story just is only that is like every
detail of it is "Hey Martha". The Post loves
Allison Mack. But I mean, in terms of who
I personally find the most interesting, it
would be Keith Raniere, the self-
proclaimed smartest man in the world. But
we all have our own tastes. I've done trials
before. I did Chapo. Bill Cosby's first trial.
Bill Cosby’s second trial. And it sounds so
[00:27:06] callous because like this is a trial where
you have people who were severely
victimized. But I enjoy the lurid aspect of
like some of these things- "I saw my story"
[00:27:12] -as many people do.

Marc Agnifilo: You know, it's two great


[00:27:16] words, sex and cult. You can't beat that
for a headline. (Upbeat music)

[00:27:21] News: Keith Ranieri, The Superman in


LOWER THIRD: what many believe is a sex cult.
MARC AGNIFILO
Keith Raniere’s Defense News: New details just revealed on the
Attorney secretive sex cult.

Marc Agnifilo: The media captured public


imagination and unfortunately captured
the government's attention. The problem
is, I then have to speak for a week, you
LOWER THIRD:
know, to explain why it's not a sex cult
MOIRA PENZA and why these you know, these are adult
Lead Prosecutor women making the decisions that adult
[00:27:46] women make, you know, for their own
lives. And the government knows that.
You know, and the government's

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leveraging that to try to kind of keep this


thing going.

Moira Penza It was very important to


show that sex was a major part of this. I
can't get into Keith Raniere's head and
[00:28:08] talk about whether it was really about the
sex or really about the power. Whatever it
was, it doesn't matter. The fact was,
sexual abuse of women was part of this
enterprise.

Marc Agnifilo: Keith makes no apologies


for the fact that he has multiple long-term
partners. Now, some of these women he
has sex with, some of these women, he
[00:28:31] doesn't. And these women know this
about him. To be in love with Keith is to
accept Keith on Keith's terms. And they
can't possibly say the women didn't
consent.

Moira Penza: Well, I think when you talk


about consent, the idea is informed
consent. Within DOS, the women, once
[00:28:56] they were collateralized, can never get
that stuff back. So, you have to do
whatever is being asked of you. It's very
clear that none of the women were told
what they were signing up for.

(Music builds)
Marc Agnifilo: It's a fascinating case, not
because of the allegations, in my opinion.
It's a fascinating case because it's a case
that's criminalizing choices that adults are
making to be happy. And I think once the
federal government gets in that space,
man that's dangerous, back off. So, the

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only way to rectify it is to hear from these


LOWER THIRD: DOS women firsthand and set the record
NICKI CLYNE straight and say, listen, I joined DOS for
NXIVM MEMBER my own reasons, they were good reasons.
It's a commitment for life. You know, even
[00:29:37] the power and might of the great federal
government, you know, hasn't shaken
these women from that belief.

(Music stops)

Nicki Clyne: I have the authority to shine


a light on various things about DOS that
have been misunderstood because I
helped create it.

(Music starts)
TITLE CARD:
Sex was not the focus of anything, people
MICHELE
[00:30:25] are so obsessed with sex. It was also a
walking group. It was also a go for coffee
group. We were people who had
relationships that were incredibly
important and meaningful to us that we
planned to have for the rest of our lives.

Michele Hatchette: People think anyone


who's still around are just brainwashed
bitches of Keith doing his bidding. How
insulting. When I was 24, I had gone
through a pretty intense breakup. I was
suicidal for a while. And I needed a way of
processing a pain I'd never experienced
before. I became a seeker because I was
like, I don't know how to do this. So, I was
like, Ooh, Bikram yoga every morning at
[00:31:18] 6:00. Yeah, I'll be there. Church. I was
shopping for churches like shopping for
shoes or a boyfriend.

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(Inaudible speaker) (Music continues)

Michele Hatchette: So, before I came


CAPTION: into ESP, I was already on this path. I've
NXIVM Promo Video always been a dreamer and the question
has always been how do I actualize the
dream? And then I did this and it was
amazing. It's like it just opened up.

I wanted to be the best of me. I wanted to


do everything excellent. So when Allison
came to me and said, There's something
that I've been a part of, it's just for women,
and I'd love to share more with you about
it, but that's all I can share for now. I was
like, Okay, if this is just for women and
she's a part of it, I know there's some
dope sisters a part of this to. DOS Was
not kid-glove stuff. This was hard core life.
DOS for me was where I got to figure out
what I was about.

(Music swells, rattles)

We were simulating situations that would


call for more discipline, character and
commitment. Allison wasn't there to affirm
things in me like, "Oh, you're so nice,
you're so pretty". She would give me
feedback to help me see my blind spots.
I'm like, at the edge of my greatest fear.
And she's just like "Keep going". And I'm
like, You're so mean. And like, you're an
asshole. It's like. I gave her permission to
push me because I told her I wanted to be
the best. It changed my life. There are
many people who have... "Why didn't you

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just walk away?" I did walk away. After


everything fell apart, I ended up working
for this incredible restaurant company. No
one knew where I came from and I felt like
I had a second chance. But then Frank
Parlato puts out an article on the Frank
Report and says that I brought Nicki to my
job under the guise of a restaurant tour.
But really, why I had her there was to
recruit women into a sex cult. And then I
got a phone call saying that I was
terminated effective immediately. That's
when it got real for me. How can I run?
[00:34:16] This is coming to my doorstep no matter
where I am. My involvement with DOS is
not what has brought hardship to my life.
[00:34:16] People saying that this was a sex
trafficking operation is why there's more
[00:34:21] hardship in my life.

Automated voice: …An inmate at a


[00:34:28] federal prison: Raniere.

CAPTION: Keith Raniere: Hey how are you?


[KEITH] Hey how are you?
Michele: I'm good, how are you?

[00:34:33]
It’s just like being in prison. Keith Raniere (Phone): (laughs) It’s just
Thank you for being there for like being in prison… Thank you for being
me and thank you for there for me and thank you for continuing
continuing in this struggle.. in this struggle...

[00:34:47] Michele: The experiences that we've


CAPTION: been having and what we've been going
You’re purposeful, which is through has made it possible for me to,
important, and you have a lot you know, test what I really believe in and
of principles that move you

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forward and that you follow. see if I'm willing to stand, you know, stick
[00:34:58] Know that you’re very up for what I believe in. And…
appreciated.
Keith Raniere (Phone): You’re
purposeful, which is important, and you
[00:35:08] have a lot of principles that move you
CAPTION: forward and that you follow. Know that
Thank you. you’re very appreciated.
[00:35:22]
Michele: Oh well it's. Yeah, I'm glad to
hear that. And it's. Yeah, that's important
TITLE: to me so...We're fighting for you.
VERO
Keith Raniere (Phone): Thank you.

Vero: Those friends of mine that are


defending him with their lives. They're
[00:35:46] harming themselves in a way that I truly
hope they can recover. They need to see
[00:35:47] for themselves something. And I think
there is so much out there that if they
don't see it's because they truly don't want
to.

Keith Raniere: Yes. How. Hi, how are


[00:35:59] you?

[00:36:00] DATE ID: Young Vero (Archival): My name is


2013 Veronica. I am happy to be here because
[00:36:01] I believe there's a lot of work to be done. I
have faith and I have a lot of hope. And
I'm ready for the hard work.

Keith Raniere: Oh, good.

Vero (Archival): Yeah.


[00:36:21]

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Vero: When I joined ESP I was really in a


[00:36:24] good place. I've been a professional
actress since I was 22 years old, and I
had just come back from shooting a pretty
successful show. But I'm pretty much a
[00:36:31] seeker, you know?

Keith Raniere: Let's create a better


[00:36:35] world.

Vero: When I joined Executive Success


Programs, I thought I had found what I
had been looking for.

Keith Raniere: Thank you for your


participation, everything that you've done.

Vero: I was there for ten years when I


was invited to DOS. We were supposed to
be like the closest, the most loyal, the
[00:37:22] most committed women, you know,
upheld our values. Understand that all this
seen from a good perspective, it
empowers you. And it was misused. It
was tremendously misused. It was so
hard to see the wolf behind the lamb-suit,
[00:37:38] you know? It's such a betrayal. How could
I have allowed myself to be there?
[00:37:39]
Mark Vicente: We're on our way to meet
[00:37:39] with Diane Benscoter. Diane herself was
LOWER THIRD:
in a cult, and she really understands the
DIANE BENSCOTER
[00:37:40] difficulty of leaving. We're basically facing
Expert In Psychological
so much anger from the inside.
Manipulation
Diane Benscoter: Yeah.

Mark Vicente: For what we did.


[00:37:49]

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Diane: Benscoter: Yeah.

Mark Vicente: Even the people that say,


okay, so he's bad, but the way you did
things is bad. Why did you destroy the
tech? There's so angry at us for what we
did.

Diane Benscoter: Usually an individual


will leave an existing group. They'll figure
it out and walk away, get help, support.
But when the thing crumbles around you,
these people didn't make the choice
LOCATION ID: necessary to leave. And the philosophy or
CLIFTON PARK, NY the teaching that people are still clinging
to is higher than everything. They're not
LOWER THIRD: mad at you. They're mad because their
world is crumbling. And so all they can do
KAREN UNTERREINER
[00:38:40] is 'us and them', because that's one of the
Former NXIVM Member
main components of these intense
groups, is that there's always a them and
in us. So there has to be a crack. And
[00:38:45] then they start thinking, Oh, I see. And all
of a sudden, things start making sense.

(birds chirping)
Mark Vicente: In order to free everybody,
everything had to be burned. And that was
hard.

Karen Unterreiner: If you hadn't taken


the attitude that you had to kill the king,
[00:39:06] you wouldn't have gotten me out. You
needed it to be that big for someone that
had been gaslighted as long as I had to
be able to get out. I mean, I was working
toward it, but I'm already 60 would have
CAPTION: been 80 before I actually made it out.
[00:39:22]

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There’s a certain type of Keith Raniere: I've known Karen almost


person that stays. 30 years. All these people, women and
[00:39:24] whatever that I interrelate with. Why is it
that I can have a relationship with multiple
It’s like what you are is it. I women for a long time? They stay. There
[00:39:27] don’t know how to put it in a lot who left, but more stay.
words. You’re the ideal
human being. You’re what I Karen Unterreiner: There’s a certain type
want to be. What I want to be. of person that stays.
What I want my life to be
[00:39:53] Keith Raniere: Why are you here?

Karen Unterreiner: It’s like what you are


[00:39:55] is it. I don’t know how to put it in words.
You’re the ideal human being. You’re
what I want to be. What I want to be. What
[00:39:58] I want my life to be.
.
Mark Vicente: So you meet him when
[00:40:02] you're 18. And like-

Karen Unterreiner: Week after my father


died.
[00:40:06]
Mark Vicente: Week after your father
died. I didn't know that.
[00:40:09]
Karen Unterreiner: That's how he
spotted me. You knew there was
something wrong.

Mark Vicente: And then you guys


became thick as thieves.

Karen Unterreiner: Yeah, very quickly. I


came to Keith with the belief that I was
defective. And he just enhanced and
utilized the belief. He helped you believe
that you couldn't survive without him. I did

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meet his mom. She was very eccentric.


He did talk about how she was
manipulative with him. And Keith said she
would make herself sick to punish him,
[00:40:55] which is the very thing he would claim we
were doing to him. You know, he would
[00:41:04] make himself sick to get us to stop asking
him questions. His mom's up in that
orange thing up above. That's one of the
[00:41:07] things I forgot.. See on top of my shelf in
there is a canister.

[00:41:07] Mark Vicente: Can I see that?

[00:41:11] Karen Unterreiner: That's cuddles. The


cat. His cat.

[00:41:11] Mark Vicente: That's his cat?

[00:41:11] Karen Unterreiner: And this is- This is


Vera.
[00:41:15]
Mark Vicente: What the fuck?

Karen Unterreiner: Vera Raniere.

Mark Vicente: This is his mother.

Karen Unterreiner: It's been up there for


20 years or 30 years. I completely forgot
about it. Oh, I have something else.
[00:41:34] (Ambient music sounds)

So this is a cleaned up version of a list we


were keeping of who's in and who's out,
[00:41:39] who we don't know. We were concerned
about people doing something to our
database or something else.

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Mark Vicente: So it was what we thought,


which is everybody is just spying on
everybody.

Karen Unterreiner: And we did report


everything to Keith. I would tell you things
that I had found out. Remembering that I
helped build this spreadsheet about
people leaving. I have more empathy for
the people that are still in. I see people
that are still following Keith and I feel that
pull to want to just go like, wake up. This
is, you know, it's not what you thought it
was. Once it came out, the truth about
DOS, someone I knew shared with me
[00:42:23] that she had been approached to get into
DOS and had at the time gone to Nancy
[00:42:25] and told her about it. So Nancy had some
idea of something.

Mark Vicente: But Nancy knew all of this.

Karen Unterreiner: I don't know how


much she knew because what she was
telling me kept changing. Keith gave her
some "Oh that's just some girls doing
[00:42:55] some things, explanation. And I don't think
she questioned things as much as some
of us did. For her, he was a mentor and a
god in some ways.

[00:43:05] News: Here's an update on the NXIVM


case. Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman
will be joined by other co-defendants
today in Brooklyn court.
[00:43:16]

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News: This is the first time we're seeing


what's being called NXVIM's Inner Circle
in a room altogether since this all began.

Moira Penza: For the first time at the


defense table, it was Keith Raniere and
the other defendants. They had so many
lawyers on the other side. And you had
DATE ID: Mark Agnifilo saying, I'm speaking with
2006 one voice. Loyalty among the inner circle
might be an additional challenge. But this
CAPTION: type of loyalty is not something that is
If I hold up a piece of red cloth foreign to other criminal organizations.
to a mirror, the mirror will look When you have this understanding that
red. Is the mirror red? it's us against the world, us against other
[00:44:30] people who are trying to harm us, that is a
[NANCY] It’s all perception. very powerful motivator. This level of
loyalty might be something that I am never
Yeah, what a person able to cut through. Some of these women
[00:44:36] perceives in an EM or what a may have made a lifetime commitment.
person perceives from
[00:44:40] another person, is very much Keith Raniere: If I hold up a piece of red
like the color off of the wall. cloth to a mirror, the mirror will look red. Is
You understand? It doesn’t the mirror red?
exist.
Nancy Salzman: It’s all perception.
You have such a great ability
[00:44:55] to explain and help us with Keith Raniere: Yeah, what a person
this perceives in an EM or what a person
perceives from another person, is very
I don't know if you could say I much like the color off of the wall. You
[00:45:05] have a great ability, you can understand? It doesn’t exist.
only judge my ability by the
end result. So the question is Nancy Salzman: You have such a great
am I more of an entertainer or ability to explain and help us with this
a true teacher? I guess you
can only judge that not by Keith Raniere: I don't know if you could
what my students say, but say I have a great ability, you can only
[00:45:21] judge my ability by the end result. So the

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what my students become. Yo question is am I more of an entertainer or


uknow? a true teacher? I guess you can only
judge that not by what my students say
Well I hope I can become but what my students become. Yknow?
that, which is the result. It
[00:45:42] feels like I can see it now. Nancy Salzman: Well I hope I can
And I'm very grateful. become that which is the result. It feels
like I can see it now and I'm very grateful.

(TV Static)
[00:45:51]
Nancy Salzman: I'd like to destroy the
concept of destruction of value. And I'd
[00:45:55] like you to consider this-

Crew (O.S.): Ten more minutes. Don’t


[00:46:05] lose it on us now.

Nancy Salzman Did I say I'd like to


destroy the concept? I think it was a
Freudian slip.

[00:46:16] Keith Raniere: See, initially, Nancy was


replaceable. I could have partnered with
Anthony Robbins and other people, and I
[00:46:20] didn't feel they were appropriate.
Personality wise and things like that.

[00:46:23] Nancy Salzman: It just felt like my mouth.


This is not working.
[00:46:24]
Keith Raniere: She was a good student
and she was willing to learn the stuff.
[00:46:26]
Nancy: …Number of disintegrations.

Keith Raniere: And she practiced


[00:46:31] diligently.

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Nancy Salzman: -An inner deficiency-


Anger is fear, but it's hidden-What is self-
esteem?
[00:46:36]
Keith Raniere: So I’d give her one thing
and then she’d call and would work it and
[00:46:40] practice it and practice it-you can even
draw the diagram that I draw of the world.
[00:46:41]
Nancy: What are the problems that exist
[00:46:43] in the world?

[00:46:44] Keith Raniere: Strav.

[00:46:44] Nancy: Hunger.

[00:46:45] Keith Raniere: Starve.

[00:46:46] Nancy: Okay. What else?

Keith Raniere: The whales.


[00:46:52]
Nancy Salzman: The whales of course.

[00:46:55] Keith Raniere: The problems. Right here.


Blow it up.

Karen: I take every chance I can to


[00:47:02] shadow Nancy Salzman.

Allison Mack: You represent such a


[00:47:09] warrior woman. And we follow behind you
bravely carrying our flag.

Group: (In Unison) Thank you prefect,


[00:47:24] CAPTION: thank you prefect, thank you prefect.
Thank you prefect, thank you
prefect, thank you prefect.

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LOWER THIRD: Keith Raniere: So now Nancy's not


AUDIO FROM NXIVM replaceable. And ultimately that's my goal,
MODULE TRUST AND to create a thousand Nancy's in the world.
INVINCIBILITY
[00:47:43] Nancy Salzman: What would happen if
each of my secrets came out? The upside
of letting go of your secrets is that you will
have a lot more freedom (static) The
[00:47:47] downside of your secrets coming out is
punishment.

[00:47:53] News: Huge developments in the NXIVM


case.

News: Nancy Salzman pleading guilty to


one count of racketeering conspiracy in
Brooklyn Federal Court.
[00:48:06]
News: Up to this point, it seemed that
there was a unity between all of these
[00:48:10] defendants. But now that you've got the
CAPTION: first guilty plea, you start to see the divide
[REPORTER] Nancy, are you and kind of the crack.
prepared to testify against
your daughter? Reporter: Nancy, are you prepared to
[00:48:23] LOWER THIRD: testify against your daughter?
BARBARA BOUCHEY
[00:48:28] Former NXIVM Member Sarah Edmondson: My first reaction to
Nancy pleading guilty is like that's the
beginning of the dominoes falling. The fact
that the prefect did this?
[00:48:47]
LOWER THIRD: Barbara Bouchey: Oh, wow.
MARC AGNIFILO
KEITH RANIERE’S Mark Vicente: I wonder if she's really
DEFENSE ATTORNEY waking up or just trying to save herself
[00:49:04] and her daughter.

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LOWER THIRD: Marc AgnifiloI: I met Nancy many, many


METROPOLITAN times. She's really a special person. And,
[00:49:07] DETENTION CENTER you know, a sweet woman, a smart
BROOKLYN, NY woman. It's a sad thing.

CAPTION: Automated Message: An inmate at a


You know, there’s united we federal prison: “Raniere”
stand, divided we fall. When
Nancy plead guilty because, I
believe, of all sorts of different Keith Raniere: You know, there’s united
understandable influences. I we stand, divided we fall. When Nancy
don’t think she… got what plead guilty because, I believe, of all sorts
[00:49:46] that did. That one act. That of different understandable influences. I
separated the community. don’t think she… got what that did. That
And what happens is it’s the one act. That separated the community.
wolves circling the sheep. And what happens is it’s the wolves
They get them apart and then circling the sheep. They get them apart
they attack them one by one. and then they attack them one by one.

Marc Agnifilo: We had a long talk about


Nancy's plea. You know, he's taking that
kind of hard. He takes it almost as like the
death of a family member, something
that's really ripping his world apart. And
[00:50:18] he thinks it's a world that's worth
preserving. And I think he's really grieving
the fact that it's all coming to an end. He's
[00:50:20] wondering if other people are going to
plea. And I said, you know, I really don't
know.

[00:50:27] News: New updates on the case against


the alleged cult NXIVM.

News: Lauren Salzman now pleading


[00:50:35] guilty to two counts racketeering
conspiracy and racketeering.

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News: Part of Lauren Salzman's plea was


redacted. There is a suggestion that she
very well could testify at the trial.
[00:50:48]
Emily Saul: To plead guilty and decide to
leave someone behind and not proceed to
[00:50:50] trial with them, I think just must be a very
difficult decision. It just makes for high
drama in the courtroom. I think they all
[00:50:53] thought they would go to trial together.

[00:50:58] News: Allison Mack cracks.

News: Mack tearfully confessing in a


Brooklyn Federal court.
[00:51:02]
Reporter: Did she agree to testify against
Keith Raniere or Clare Bronfman?

[00:51:05] News: Mack will be the third defendant to


plead guilty ahead of the trial.

[00:51:12]
News: She faces a maximum of 40 years
in prison.

Reporter: Any comment? Why do you


think you were misguided by Raniere?
[00:51:17]
News: In the next hour, we expect to hear
guilty pleas from the heiress to Seagram's
liquor, 39 year old Clare Bronfman. She's
[00:51:35] charged with money laundering and
CAPTION: identity theft.
[00:51:36] We’ll talk after
Emily Saul: Oh that might... Is that Clare?
I think that's-yeah that's Claire. Okay let's
[00:51:39] go! Sorry- Good morning. How are you?

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Lawyer: We’ll talk after

Emily Saul: All right. I will give you some


time with your client.

[00:51:51] News: Seagram's heiress Clare Bronfman


made it to charges, leaving just the
secretive group's leader. Keith Raniere
will no longer have his inner circle sitting
beside him as he faces his trial.
[00:52:14]
Moira Penza: Once one person had
pleaded guilty. It did change the dynamic.
The question is, will they cooperate with
the government and turn against Keith?

Voice Over: Keith, I can rationalize that


[00:52:48] he's crazy, maybe a psychopath. But
Nancy wasn't crazy. Honestly, she
puzzles me more than Keith.

[00:52:55] (music plays, sirens blare)

News: FBI crews raid a home in


[00:53:04] Waterford with apparent connections to
the alleged cult.

News: The FBI raiding the home of Nancy


Saltzman, who helped co-found NXIVM.
TITLE:
NANCY
Nancy Salzman: You have 12 FBI agents
raid your house for 11 hours and then you
[CREDITS]
get arrested and put in a cell. You feel like
you must have done something wrong
because how else does something like
this happen to you? The world is left with
this view of you that you know isn't you.
Or how could it have been?

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