As usual the site failed under pressure at the moment the vault went live and by the time it managed to load like a minute later the most desirable games were long gone, luckily there were multiple titles that interested me this month so when I saw that Soul Reaver was out of stock I just got Parcel Corps instead :)
Now, I do hope they do like last month and allow us to get more than one game if there's still stock late into the month because I wouldn't mind double dipping and getting Paper Trail too.
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Reminder that you can play Paper Trail for free on mobile from Netflix games!
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If they continue like this they'll have to add a Tier 6 and the most demanded games should be a lot more expensive. It doesn't make sense that the 3 most wanted games were tier 4, 3 & 2. They should be top tier (5) and more expensive. With the rest of low demand games they can set whatever tier they want, they will not run out of stock even at low price.
There are members sitting on top of tens of thousands of ARP which they can't spend because they don't live in countries where that ARP is useful to get Alienware hardware (Dell Rewards) instead of games on the Vault.
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I think the prices are fine, but a tier 6 could definitely help. But there's the risk of it turning into a runaway situation where new tiers are so hard to achieve for new users that people are discouraged from even trying, resulting into only old users hanging around and the userbase slowly declining, which I imagine is something AWA wants to avoid.
And yeah, for me ARP is only good for the vault games at this point since I'm already at tier 5 and the Dell rewards don't work here, but unlike others instead of hoarding ARP I just spend it whenever I'm able to pick a game that looks interesting, even if getting the "big" titles is nearly impossible they still have a pretty robust selection of indie games almost every month.
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I think the prices are fine
No, prices are definitely not fine if a game runs out of keys in seconds. That means low number of keys, too many members with lots of ARP to spend or too low price (maybe this time all of them at once).
There has been inflation since they released the game vault, that is fine and normal. It is pure supply and demand.
the userbase slowly declining
The userbase will decline for sure if they continue to make all these wrong decisions. It's simple: you want good games? Reach Tier 5 (or 6). The rest of games without demand could stay at tier 1, it doesn't matter and will be an option for low tier members until they reach higher tiers.
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it doesnt matter if the site doesnt load up at all and you cant buy anything there.
And when it load up the desired game is gone already...
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I know and I guess it will happen again next vault opening.
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It's mindboggling to me that they haven't at least added a captcha. The most wanted games would still go really quick, but at least they'd go to users rather than bots. At this point, the only reason I can think of for why they've not added a captcha is because it somehow benefits them not to, i.e. causing FOMO or similar.
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It's effectively a DDoS, there isn't that much they can do. I'm honestly content with AWA's Game Vault tbh, it crashes instantly but comes back in a minute. I got Creatures of Ava at :02 minutes this time, last month was CATO 2 minutes after "launch" too.
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They are the ones funneling everyone into their site at the same time by planning it as some sort of raid, if they diffuse the traffic over a longer period of time this wouldn't happen, or at least not as badly. Like, instead of having the vault open at the same time for every game they could simply spread it over the month and open each game individually every few days, or make it into a smaller weekly event.
The obvious solution would of course be a raffle system but they seem very unwilling to implement anything other than a first come first served system.
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Well, at least they're testing something behind the scene:
https://discord.com/channels/97149047281827840/1069815160157511730/1309668294151634964
- If Game Vault were a raffle - we'd have to eliminate over 90% of the countries of the world and DRASTICALLY reduce the number of keys we give away on it. So really only people in like 3-5 countries would be able to participate and there'd be way less codes, so you're probably going to be less likely to get codes.
- You're seeing the errors because it means you're hitting the server requesting a code but those codes have run out (and yes they run out that quickly because there's like 10s of thousands of people trying to get codes at the same time. We have been looking for better ways around this but haven't come across a solution that doesn't introduce more issues than it solves. And no - a queue system isn't going to make it better unless we gate people from being allowed to join (like charge an ARP fee to get into the queue and that's not something I want to do).
- We have been talking about solutions for people who seem to be claiming keys just to resell them, but stay tuned on that one, it's not ready yet. Plus there's a whole philosophical debate around ethics on that we're still weighing.
- What I would like to know, and let me know in <#1199696531855527937> what are some other things you folks would like to have to spend ARP on outside of the Game Vault. I'll let you in on a little inside baseball here (and yes I know many of you won't care about this lol) but getting keys for the Game Vault is hard. There's limitations from the stores of how many keys publishers are allowed to give out to us, there's a lot of legal work involved from the publishers on stuff, and a ton of other limitations that make it a problem you can't just throw money at to fix. So I am just curious what other things people would like to see beyond game keys that might be cool.
I can assure you we talk about this A LOT and we want to make it a better experience for everyone, so don't think we're just sitting around not caring. I care very deeply about all this stuff (as I respond to this and the DMs at 7pm on a Friday night) but just know that these aren't easy problems to solve. BUT calling me an idiot or other names that'll get me banned from my own server for repeating isn't going to have the outcome you're hoping for 😄
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Right. I always forget how much of a hassle raffles are on the legal standpoint for companies. 😴
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It's mindboggling that after repeated statements from the upper echelon bosses that it isn't a bot issue, every month the same old "bots are grabbing everything" discourse gets booted up.
It's a load issue, their servers cant handle the amount of people lining up trying to grab a key each month.
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Upper echelon bosses insist site with zero bot protection isn't being botted.
Riiiiiiiight...
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They have an invisible captcha. Sometimes, you'll have a captcha validation error, and can't claim the game. It'll go away if you keep trying, though.
You can observe in the browser network monitor that by just opening the game detail popup in the game vault, the site will send network requests to https://www.google.com/recaptcha/enterprise/*
.
In my opinion, captcha is stinking bad, and nowadays, bots could solve captcha better than human, and there's captcha solving service available for cheap.
There were multiple times in the past that after wasting 10 minutes, I still couldn't verify that I'm a monkey, not a bot.
Have to resort to technical measurement for that.
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First congrats to all people managed to get their game of choice on Game Vault this month.
Second... I might want to ask a favor, if people can share the Package ID (SubID) of the game you activate?
If you're not familiar with it, even the duped key is ok to post to check (assure you have already used it before posting) so can check that info out of it.
Since I'm taking note of each Game Vault Package ID and if future a GA repeats, we might know if it's Special Edition, includes DLC or Pre-Order, since those kind of things make difference on what game will people pick.
Sorry for the long text and thx everyone, once again congrats!
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https://steamdb.info/sub/827212, Creatures of Ava
Info from friends:
https://steamdb.info/sub/906286, Soul Reaver I-II for Beta Testing
https://steamdb.info/sub/551935, DREDGE (Pre-Order)
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Have one of the older ones that's missing from the list:
https://steamdb.info/sub/590567, Karmazoo (22/12/2023)
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Thx 💟 Really appreciate that!
Time to fill-in the blanks!
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Not too sure on "vanilla", but with the SteamDB extension it just shows up as a hyperlink.
https://steamdb.info/sub/1053462/ - The Thing Remastered for Beta Testing
(basically we "try to activate" the key, and the error message will display the key's information)
Also, it seems that The Thing is too new and SteamDB doesn't have any info about it yet.
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Without SteamDB add-on: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/LOdi3Yo
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Oh yeah, I assumed it'd be the ajax thingy. I remember that's how I'd check what keys were activating (wasn't interested in checking sub ID). Then I finally decided on installing the SteamDB extension. 😆
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Sometimes AWA repeats the Game for future Game Vaults (Like previous Resident Evil 4, Street Fighter 6, TESO Gold Roads DLC)
But since they most times don't specify if they're Standard/Deluxe/Ultimate Edition (Like the previous Space Marines 2),
some people skipped them due to they thought it was only the Base Game.
So knowing if AWA has given certain Edition in the past, might help in future if people sees the same game, to know what probably it'll be and make changes to their choices of games on each Game Vault.
But... well, I guess it's not important as those one people provides for HB/Fanatical ones to see region lock or things on keys like that.
Either way, thx for the key, added to list as well. 💟
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I got this one: https://steamdb.info/sub/443452/ (DeathSprint 66)
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https://steamdb.info/sub/1053462/ - The Thing Remastered for Beta Testing
got it with the help of some others!
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Thx for Biped!
Guess the key variation for 2 games instead of 1 are really long gone.
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Ohh thx! 💟
Sorry forgot to check thread for a while.
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Well by now it is very much out of stock, but if you clicked confirm when the vault opened, you may have gotten it even though the page didn't do anything. This happened to me. I clicked confirm and nothing happened, so rather than refresh the page, I left that window open and loaded another window to try again. But it turns out I had gotten the game when I originally clicked confirm.
So I guess just check your keys and see if you have it, or go to the Vault page and see if it says you already claimed a game this month. If it still lets you claim a game, then you didn't get Dredge and you can choose something else from what's left (or wait for discounts, or just skip the month).
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Sorry, I know this is off topic but does anyone know if the following is possible?
Every week there are missions to play x game; do you know if it is possible to simulate playing the game without having to install it? Because there are games that weigh more than 100gb that I don't like to install.
I know there are programs to farm but I don't know how to use them with a game that doesn't have cards.
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Sorry just noticed I forgot to post this in the past.
46 keys left now.
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🏆 Tier 1+
🔑 4,995
⛔ Countries without keys|Belarus, China, Poland, Russia, Ukraine
📋 Finish tutorial and reach Kastleton ➡️ Main Menu ➡️ Coupon
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Don't worry.
A lot of players already have stopped playing this. (including me)
And those who still play probably have enough ornate coins anyway, because they give them away pretty often and you can't really use them for good stuff.
They have another different currency for the most of the shop stuff.
The game has too much cosmetics to buy and a lot of other problems.
For example a lot of pvp griefing on players who don't want to pvp because the controlling guild does an eclipse right at the moment when the pve boss is(portals) about to spawn. Which makes the area pvp, flaggs the mostly solo players pvp and they slaughter them and re-slaughter them on choke points when they just trying to get into the portals to the boss area which only stay open for 5 minutes.
And you basically have to get two "season pass" each 1-2 month, atleast at first because there is a leveling pass and a season pass.
AWA gave away the leveling pass at one time, which made me play this for a while, but I noticed pretty quick, that unless I'm into hardcore and/or a heartless griever, the game isn't really something for me.
So I stopped after I finished most of the content and achievements available at that time. No point to gear up.
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I see, thx for the explanation, didn't have opportunity to try the game before so didn't know anything related to the game.
Well guess this suggestion/experience you shared will help others decide if they will try the game or not.
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Looks like no discount yet for the remaining games.
So if you still interested in one of the remaining, keep checking today.
But there is the possibility that there is no discount this month, because they usually have been earlier in the past.
I wish for 2025 that there will be a game again that interests me and the vault opening time is not in the middle of the night for me.
The last month/year where I didn't want a game it always were at a good time for me.
But with my luck, if I want a game, it probably opens in the middle of the night.
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All depends which time they want to open on US time mostly.
And probably no discount but 2nd chance to exchange things.
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Thx added to list, finally only 1 game left to take note.
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I got Cat Beef Ultra since it looks fun, it was cheap, and the ones I actually wanted already ran out of stock :P
BTW since I couldn't use the Stanley excavation because I was switching cards last night I went with the 1% discount card and discovered that it can now be upgraded to 2%, sadly I was also out of fragments because I had just upgraded another card like two days ago.
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Ohh nice, and yep sadly other titles were long gone that fast. =(
Well idk who switched to discount Artifact to buy anything now, me personally I just bought at full price, since cooldown as well.
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🔗 https://na.alienwarearena.com/marketplace/game-vault
⏰ 2025 Jan 24 20:00 UTC
Game | Platform | Tier | Price | Discount |
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl | Steam | 4+ | 5200 | 4420 |
SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS | Steam | 4+ | 4200 | 3570 |
Alien: Rogue Incursion (VR) | Steam | 3+ | 4300 | 3655 |
W.A.N.D. Project | Steam | 3+ | 2900 | 2465 |
The Lord of the Rings: Return to Moria™ | Steam | 2+ | 3400 | 2890 |
STAR WARS™: Episode I: Jedi Power Battles™ | Steam | 1+ | 3300 | 2805 |
Apex Legends™ - 1,000 Coins | In-Game | 1+ | 2000 | 1700 |
Baby Blues Nightmares - Toddler Horror Game | Steam | 1+ | 1500 | 1275 |
Metaball - Cyborg Pack | In-Game | 1+ | 750 | 637 |
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There's a secret W.A.N.D. Project mentioned in their promo banner, but doesn't seem revealed/mentioned in Game Vault itself.
So not sure if that will be part of this Game Vault or not.
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Seems like W.A.N.D. Project is cancelled at all, so don't expect it appearing during this Game Vault.
it was a last min nix. But creative was already approved and had to be up.
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I hope I can claim the stalker but people are very fast, and it's not a stalker, it's the Lord of the Rings
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Dang, nice. Happy cake day, I think I didn't say it yet? :o
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It's a solid interesting mix, I don't actually recall the Star Wars one, Moria has been knobbled slightly by just being on Epic, why does such a cool looking Alien game have to be VR only 😢 and some nice indies to boot.....
But .........
oy.....🙍
Stalker 2 at T4?!!???!!!???..... comparatively speaking it came out like 5 mins ago 🤔.......unless they've got alot of keys it's going to be No Man's Sky all over again 🤦♂️. Forgive my grumpy mood (working new years always does it) but what is the point of having T5 if most of the time AWA is too afraid/timid to actually use it to gatekeep/thin out the hordes, even if there are so many of us now.
But let's be honest we all know I'm gonna try anyway [shameless frown]. Unless AWA lets us know how few keys there are.
Better vault time for me than last time. The sun will be up at least.
Cheers for the wrap-up and hope your new years was good.
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Well sadly since certain moment AWA stopped to share the keys amount on each one, so really hard to make decision on what to take, had to have plan B or C or just go saving route to unsure when will you finally able to use those ARPs you saved not intentionally, but that you didn't have chance to spend on what you wanted.
But well just hope this new year things will go better.
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Thx too! 🍰
And sorry for late reply!
And Happy belated new year!
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Thx, here you go 🍰!
Btw that's just normal thing on AWA 😅
When they forgot to add keys into Game Vault, that category will just show as Out of Stock due to 0 keys at all.
Later AWA will add the keys into them.
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I blew out my ARP reserves last month picking up two games, so I'm actually just skipping this month. I'll get SSG at some point in the future when it has a good sale, already played the original Sonic Gens plenty back in the day.
And don't worry about late replies, it's not like this place is our job or anything :P
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Well me too, the 2nd game picking last month without using Discount Artifact really make that harder for me (Really thought spending 1.5k isn't really matter, but regreting now)
I guess next time I'd just really think if I really want that 2nd game or not or just skip it to save more ARP for next month.
Well I went missing since new year XD
And tons of things still hasn't been updated.
So was hoping these old/expired info won't be confusing people at all =P
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Thx for 🍰!
You're welcome, really glad to hear that.
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Sadly that happens a lot... just hope they have enough copies or some other sort of way to ensure site won't be dead again.
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happy cakeday Megumin! and thanks for all the work you're doing here and in the other threads.
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Thx 🍰 @moonlightdriver! Really glad to hear that.
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Just like perhaps 99.9% of the AWA users, I'll also be gunning for Stalker 2. If I can't get a key, then Baby Blues will be my second choice. It reminds me of Among the Sleep in which you also play as a kid.
Aaaaand Happy CakeDay, Megumin! :D
Thanks for the useful threads and charts, it's really appreciated.
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Probably S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 as the majority ones aiming for.
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Thx, wish the same for your choice of game as well!
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I'm skipping this month, actually. 😆 Thank you still!
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I see, save more ARPs better, especially DRP reset coming soon maybe.
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Except DRP is useless here... :')
I'm in EU, DRP only works for 100+€ purchases, I have to spend 100€ and the DRP will only work for the rest (if my cart is 230€ for example, I'll have to pay 100€ and the DRP will only work for the remaining 130€).
No free stuff like in the US, lol.
But yeah, save ARPs for Vault months I'd be more interested in. :o
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Ahh yep... EU works differently compared to US or CA...
Sadly DRP can't cover the whole cost for your purchase at all.
But well, at least less spending onto other things, more savings for Game Vault. =o
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W.A.N.D. Project - https://steamdb.info/sub/926920/
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Oops, sorry I thought it was pinned on the main thread.
Here you go.
Just go to the Game Vault Tab.
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Baby Blues Nightmares: https://steamdb.info/sub/1012343/info/
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Freebie | Platform | Tier | Status |
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302950 - Playtest | Steam | 1 | ⚠️ Upcoming! |
Many GAs upcoming in next few days and unknown time (future)
Sorry if I can't name them directly, just always add 0 at the end.
│ Well 2024 is gone and now new year 2025.
│ Trying to make this short so won't be too confusing to read.
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Thx!
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🏆 Tier 1+
🔑 4,995
⛔ Countries without keys|Belarus, Poland, Russia, Ukraine
🎮 https://s.team/a/3029500/
📁 SteamDB|1143976
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Freebie | Platform | Tier | Status |
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270513 - Playtest | Steam | 1 | ⚠️ Upcoming! |
Freebie | Platform | Tier | Status |
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240084 - Closed Beta | Steam | 1 | ⚠️ Upcoming! |
Many GAs upcoming in next few days and unknown time (future)
Sorry if I can't name them directly, just always add 0 at the end.
│ This one probably will be up around Feb 12. 5 days playtest.
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The battery had been on the market a few months ago if I remember right. ( Sadly I don't think there's a way to get it now :( )
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Currently none of them is available now. =(
Those Artifacts are only available for limited time.
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Not worried about it today. Ha! Much more lax this time due to being only tangentially interested in sonic for now. If I don't get it that's fine too.
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I picked 2 or 3 games to claim - STALKER > WAND > Baby Blues Nightmares and since Stalker insta gone, I've claimed WAND and I hope it's a fun game :) I wish they have added like 1K keys, but I think they also will insta gone (I've heard some time ago, that there are more than 500K users on AWA and I think right now it's near the 1KK, so the chances are very low)
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Congrats on W.A.N.D., and sorry can I ask for the SubID Package or the duped key if you're not familiar with that?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alienwarearena&hl=en if you have Android phone
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To be fair the app is next to useless, has never been updated in the nearly 2 years I've had it and no matter how much I keep it active I rarely get notifications from it anymore. It's just a glorified browser-app to access the website and the kick in the pants is that's it's much slower than a chromium based browser, esp if you have one that allows extensions to enable adblocking. On vault days you'd have more luck trying to access the site via carrier pigeon than the app. 🤷♂️
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And I heard that people still encounter issues from completing daily quests as well about screen resolution or things likely...
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Pretty much I hear everyone going for it before Game Vault opens, but really didn't expect Moria will also be gone that quick, I was expecting SONIC to go down with STALKER 2 though...
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I got myself a Moria key. Wasn't that important to me, but the only game I was somewhat interested in and I have too much ARP at the moment anyway.
And I thought it was just free on EGS, so less people will try to claim it.
But still did my "thing" and got the key in time. Don't know it it was any help at all.
At the time I got the green message that I got the key, the text for the other games hadn't changed yet so I tried for shits and giggles to get stalker too because the button was still available for me. But after a period of nothing for about 30 seconds I got the message that I already claimed a key forthis month.
After I refreshed only stalker had the "out of stock" text, so I think there was fairly enough time to claim moria for all the people who had this as their first choice.
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Congrats on getting it, to be fair like you said, being free on EGS made me think it might not go out of stock that quick, guess I need to update the future prediction standards now 😅
But yep, getting the green msg is the most important one, if you see that then you're likely 95% got your key, just rush to your Rewards section and check if your key pops up or not, although at that time site must be 503 502 Health issues as always. 😭
With S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 being wiped out quick, glad people can get other game as their second/primary choice.
But really... SONIC lasted longer than I expected.
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After seeing it a few more times... later you just became immune like...
If there's no Health 503 issues... IT'S NOT AWA AT ALL 😱
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@MeguminShiro
SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS - Retail - [Digital] (WW): https://steamdb.info/sub/1127785
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refreshed the Vault and when it was loaded the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2:was gone already,
so it was just waste of ARP for me
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Well, currently counted 14 people claiming it (at least they share it publicly they got it)
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I miraculously managed to get one too, so +1 for Stalker here
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I mean the ones that I could confirm from people willing to share XDDD
Supposedly around 100-150 keys, but idk.
Not even sure if can speculate or mention those kind of things out.
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AWA has always been like that. Can't count on getting keys for the good stuff.
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I don't know how, but I've never been this fast before, I surprised myself I have chance to get stalker, but it was already out of stock.
I would like to note that I acquired space marine 2 before and this time I was realllyyy fast, but no luck :s
Nevermind, 9 mins later I got alien, that was my second option :D
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Got Wand Project cos it looked nice and I had enough ARP, the site took a bit to load and I never got a confirmation but the key showed up in the inventory, I have a feeling that everyone went for Stalker 2 this month and that left the other games free.
That said I'm kinda wishing that I hadn't gotten anything last month so I would have had enough ARP for Shadow Gens this time, can't believe than that one didn't run out within a few seconds.
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Congrats, sorry for bothering, wanted to ask if can share the info about W.A.N.D. Project, only need the SubID Package or if not familiar with it, the duped key.
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Hi, sorry for the delayed response, I just now sat at the PC to activate the key since when I got it and wrote that comment I was on my phone.
The key activated as the following according to the steam-db add-on: https://steamdb.info/sub/926920/
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Heya, no worries. I'm like that as well replying too late when not on PC or not checking SG at all.
Thx for the info!
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Hmm... if you're ok, you can send me the duped key so I can check it.
Or people can explain how to check SubID here better, I'm bad at explaining 😅
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https://steamdb.info/sub/879431/
Power for Beta Testing
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I wanted Stalker. Second pick was LotR. Both out of stock. Ended up with Star Wars. It's a good game according to the reviews at least.
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To be honest I didn't expect LotR to go out of stock that fast, like it was free on Epic earlier, and SONIC somehow seems to be faster like STALKER...
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You need to have browser extension https://steamdb.info/extension/ after you'll activate the key the page will show what you have activated and link to SteamDB (to a sub). Actually, you can try to activate key one more time after installing extension and you'll see the link to SteamDB
It looks like this sub was not indexed by SteamDB, you can send your key here https://steamdb.info/keys/ and after some time SteamDB will know about this sub
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Probably.
Also just random things, STAR WARS was showing Power instead of Midnight here XDD
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To be honest it's lasting longer than what I expected.
Not really sure how many is out there, especially after tons of people saying they got their copies.
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