Talk:Q56061

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Autodescription — administrative territorial entity (Q56061)

description: territorial entity for administration purposes, with or without its own local government
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http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tree.html?q=Q56061&rp=279 Androoox (talk) 14:14, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

subclass of

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subclass of (P279) hierarchy (Q188619) translates as "subclass of" "hierarchy". A division is not a hierarchy, though it is a unit of a hierarchy. (In some places like Sweden of course, it's not a hierarchy....) Is there a better item we can use for the subclass claim? --Izno (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In English "division" means both unit and hierarchy. Most articles here is about the system not the units. hierarchy of administrative territorial entities (Q4057633) (and above) is about units. Infovarius (talk) 18:28, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Except it doesn't. Among none of the synonyms nor definitions here is 'hierarchy' included. --Izno (talk) 22:01, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"State of being divided" assumes at least 1 level of hierarchy, isn't it? And country is usually administratively divided several times so we get a full hierarchy. But if you don't suppose it's right you can move en-link to Q4057633 which contains units of hierarchy solely. --Infovarius (talk) 07:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No... it doesn't. I have no intention of moving the en link. I have no idea where you're coming from, because you're just not making any sense. On top of that, there are two editors who think you are wrong. --Izno (talk) 16:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
From what I can tell of the links, almost every one talks about administrative division, not administrative hierarchy. So if there's any page not correct, we should split that from this item (and merge back in administrative units), as this item is used in every case that I've seen as meaning 'administrative unit', as you term it. --Izno (talk) 20:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I revert "subclass of hierarchy". But about splitting - I've already split it into Q4057633. There's some substantial problem in linking by properties because actually there are 3 types of entities: 1) administrative division as a system; 2) subdivision unit (its definition, wording, history?); 3) list of units (subnational, 2nd level and so on). In many languages 2 is not described separately in articles and joined with either 1 or 3. If saying "2+3" is subclass of subdivision unit is quite correct, making the same statements about articles containing also description of a full hierarchy. See for example province of Turkey - was a complete mess between articles about system and about 1st level units (provinces or vilayets). Infovarius (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

administrative territorial entity

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Since

  • it is in the tree "territorial entity" and not in "hierarchy"
  • and all the instances are territorial entities

I renamed to "administrative territorial entity". Androoox (talk) 03:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata:Administrative territorial entity

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Some related information at Wikidata:Administrative territorial entity. Tamawashi (talk) 11:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Special:WhatLinksHere/Q56061

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Special:WhatLinksHere/Q56061 probably should not have concrete entities as instances.

I checked Q1646651 and found the User:TarzanASG. Removing instance of "Krai of the Soviet Union"

Huk700 (talk) 01:35, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The query would be "claim[31:56061]" and that should probably be empty. Huk700 (talk) 01:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius: could you help emptying "claim[31:56061]"? Huk700 (talk) 01:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pinging. I'll try to help. --Infovarius (talk) 21:04, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Huk700:. I was thoroughly working with items from this query (adding dates, upper divisions, countries...) but someone, may be 91.9.127.198, run through them rapidly. At least the query is almost empty now... --Infovarius (talk) 18:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Subclass and instance

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