Wikidata:Property proposal/AdoroCinema person ID

Description	identifier for a person in AdoroCinema database
Represents	AdoroCinema (Q9583664)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	[1-9]\d*
Example 1	Meryl Streep (Q873) --> 9
Example 2	Isabelle Huppert (Q106365) --> 947
Example 3	Penélope Cruz (Q39666) --> 3614
Example 4	Nicole Kidman (Q37459) --> 15760
Source	https://www.adorocinema.com/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Mix'n'match	4992
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.adorocinema.com/personalidades/personalidade-$1
See also	AlloCiné person ID (P1266), TMDB person ID (P4985), AdoroCinema film ID (P7777)

Hello,

I have no idea how it should be done, but aside of "AdoroCinema film ID" property (linked to AdoroCinema (Q9583664)), we probably also create "AdoroCinema person ID" which then could be used for various actors playing in the movies… (for ID XXXXXXXXXX it should link to https://www.adorocinema.com/personalidades/personalidade-XXXXXXXXXX/ for example)

Support. Seems important and fine. -- Ontogon (talk) 10:46, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the identifier is already stored at AlloCiné person ID (P1266). --- Jura 05:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure that both databases are somehow linked? And the fact that French readers can get information via the {Bases} template would justify that Portugese & Brazilian readers should not get an ease to reach data in their own language on that other film related database? 2A02:2788:22A:100D:EDA9:975B:EDAD:2B83 08:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jura1 is right. Both databases are connected. AdoroCinema (Q9583664) is described as "AlloCiné à l'étranger" as well as SensaCine (Q16630183), Filmstarts (Q1415290) and Beyazperde (Q6065124). This can be found at the bottom of the AlloCiné homepage. I don't think the translation alone justifies a new property. Or is there another opinion? -- Ontogon (talk) 11:42, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, tell me how do we treat such case: https://www.adorocinema.com/personalidades/personalidade-763801/ https://www.allocine.fr/personne/fichepersonne_gen_cpersonne=763801.html?nopub=1 (same number, but currently data only available on the adorocinema.com page), does the "connection" between those databases mean that Patricia Ide (Q3369108) shouldn’t get linked to the any of those "connected" databases? (honestly we can’t claim yet she has an AlloCiné record, but she definitely has for adorocinema.com). I’m pretty sure it’s not a unique case, and am also pretty sure we could find artists with AlloCiné record but with none for adorocinema.com, so to my eyes the connection is a bit looser than what you may think (all they seem to have in a common is a key system, but the use of the key isn’t common unless they decide to systematicly provide data on both sites). In my opinion, reachable or not reachable data criterium should be taken in account here rather than "common access key system". Yours,2A02:2788:22A:100D:F590:29D1:B888:FD36 13:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support As the many discussions with Jura1 about these sites, AdoroCinema, AlloCiné or FilmStarts are not fully replicated. Above, an example is given by the applicant of an entry in AdoroCinema that is not on AlloCiné. —Eihel (talk) 10:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment mix'n'match catalog 4992 created. Gerwoman (talk) 11:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:41, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ontogon, Jura1, Eihel, Gerwoman, MasterRus21thCentury: Done as AdoroCinema person ID (P10266). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 07:13, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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