Wikidata:Property proposal/Lib.ru author ID

Lib.ru author ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Done: Lib.ru author ID (P10362) (Talk and documentation)

Description	идентификатор автора на Lib.ru (ru) – (Please translate this into English.)
Represents	lib.ru (Q2371298)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), musical group (Q215380)
Example 1	Mikhail Bulgakov (Q835) → BULGAKOW
Example 2	William Shakespeare (Q692) → SHAKESPEARE
Example 3	Joseph Brodsky (Q862) → BRODSKIJ
Example 4	Sergei Eisenstein (Q8003) → CINEMA/kinolit/EJZENSHTEJN
Example 5	Jethro Tull (Q192353) → SONGS/jethro.txt
Source	http://www.lib.ru/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	for usage in stated in (P248) and for Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
Number of IDs in source	unknown
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	http://www.lib.ru/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Yes, it would be great to have a separate mix'n'match catalog.
See also	Project Gutenberg author ID (P1938)
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Wikidata:WikiProject Russia, Wikidata:WikiProject Books

Motivation

Lib.ru was oldest Russian internet-library, was founded November 1, 1994. For the first time, with the help of Maxim Moshkov's Library, a Russian-speaking Internet user got the opportunity to read his favorite literary work without leaving home for an ordinary paper book. Both in the late 90s and early 2000s, and in 2021, the design of the site remains unchanged. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

• MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
  Notified participants of WikiProject Russia, WikiProject Books has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
• Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury NGOgo Pierre Tribhou Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering Hiperterminal (talk) מקף Lovelano Ecravo Chado07 Soufiyouns
  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 19:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
•  Support Thanks for this proposal! I added another example, and edited a bit more.
  • Some values are not folders but files (eg *.txt). I think that's ok since we want to get to the content, no matter how it's organized
  • I think the ru name should mention "Lib.ru" whereas the description should mention "Библиотеке Максима Мошкова"
  • What should be the domain? I added musical group (Q215380) but that's not enough because a book can be about anything (and not all lib.ru links are to "author" pages)
  • Is the prefix always "www." Eg [1] refers to

    [http://world.lib.ru/k/kim_o_i/kkk5.shtml История иммиграции корейцев.]

  • Do you commit to populate it with some values? Eg
    • [2] lists a bunch of pages
    • [3] (about Jethro Tull (Q192353)) has

       [http://www.lib.ru/SONGS/jethro.txt Тексты песен] в [http://www.lib.ru/ библиотеке Мошкова]

      from which the id can be extracted
    • However, that won't be so easy and will require some filtering because eg these links (from 2 book pages) are to the same "author" page on lib.ru:

      Золотое сердце (корабль) — ссылка на http://www.lib.ru/ADAMS/

      Автостопом по галактике (серия романов) — ссылка на http://www.lib.ru/ADAMS/

      --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 12:52, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

  Что ещё недостаёт для потенциального свойства Викиданных? Всё же могут быть отдельные свойства и к произведениям авторов. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 22:24, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

•  Support, an important property for art.--Arbnos (talk) 11:22, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
• WikiProject Properties has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 10:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

+ WikiProject Books has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 05:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

• MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
  Notified participants of WikiProject Russia —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
•  Support, the oldest runet library, I think it's worth it Carn (talk) 09:43, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury, Vladimir Alexiev, Arbnos, Carn:  Done Lib.ru author ID (P10362) Pamputt (talk) 17:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)