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:To explain the answers that have already been given, but that might be a bit obscure to a new editor: Wikipedia is not a list of everything. It only covers subjects that meet its own definition of [[WP:notability|notability]] (roughly, that several independent sources have discussed the subject in some depth), and most organisations - even most churches - do not. Only if Power Line Church meets those criteria could we have an article on it, and only then should it appear in a "list" article. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
:To explain the answers that have already been given, but that might be a bit obscure to a new editor: Wikipedia is not a list of everything. It only covers subjects that meet its own definition of [[WP:notability|notability]] (roughly, that several independent sources have discussed the subject in some depth), and most organisations - even most churches - do not. Only if Power Line Church meets those criteria could we have an article on it, and only then should it appear in a "list" article. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
::We have more than 100,000 lists. It's possible but unlikely that whatever you mean by "the incorporated list" actually does allow adding it without an article. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
::We have more than 100,000 lists. It's possible but unlikely that whatever you mean by "the incorporated list" actually does allow adding it without an article. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
:::@[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] I thought that ''all'' WP lists were lists of articles. No? [[Special:Contributions/71.228.112.175|71.228.112.175]] ([[User talk:71.228.112.175|talk]]) 12:25, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


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    September 18

    Concensus?

    Some days ago, I made a RFC and pool to change a rule. The pool has shown that 10 people want to change it while 6 want to keep the status quo. Has a concensus been got here? How many people agreeing on would we need to have if the concensus hasn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Salvus (talk • contribs) 00:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Dr Salvus. Consensus is not determined by a vote count. Five supports grounded in policies and guidelines are far more persuasive than twenty opposes based on emotions and ignorance of policies and guidelines. Cullen328 (talk) 07:06, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    When discussion has died down, as in no comments for 3-4 days, ask for closure at WP:RFCL. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:26, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I would like to add a name to this page "List of dignitaries at the state funeral of Elizabeth II"

    I would like to add a name to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dignitaries_at_the_state_funeral_of_Elizabeth_II 81.141.206.84 (talk) 09:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Under item Other national representatives China Wang Qishan, Vice President of China[148] Colombia Verónica Alcocer, First Lady of Colombia[136] Cuba Salvador Valdés Mesa, Vice President of Cuba[149] Kyrgyzstan Adylbek Kasymaliev, First Deputy Chairman of the Cabinet of Ministers of Kyrgyzstan[150] Libya Musa Al-Koni, Deputy Chairman of the Presidential Council of Libya[151] Panama Arístides Royo, Minister for Canal Affairs and former President of Panama[152] Ukraine Olena Zelenska, First Lady of Ukraine[153]

    Please add :

    REPUBLIC OF SURINAME - Amwed Jethu, Honorary Consul — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.206.84 (talk) 09:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Does he meet the requirements of WP:LISTPEOPLE? Shantavira|feed me 10:03, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    One might argue that the fact of his having been invited (or permitted) to attend is prima facie evidence of his notability. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.160 (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Are there reliable sources supporting this claim of notability? I don't think being invited is sufficient on its own. I would expect any person considered notable enough to be in the list to have a Wikipedia article about them, which Amwed Jethu appears not to have. Emma Lewis has an invitation but no Wikipedia article about her, so she should not be in this list either, regardless her good work. Bazza (talk) 12:41, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Why do we have this list in the first place? Drmies (talk) 15:07, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    God knows. It's easy enough to find a list online, such as the much more informative BBC listing. Shantavira|feed me 18:59, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Checking my edit count

    I remember there being a website that showed amount of edits I have with charts showing which days I am most active in. Can anyone tell me a link to that site? Thanks. Roostery123 (talk) 10:39, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    xtools.wmflabs.org Madeline (part of me) 10:41, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Roostery123: Specifically, in your case, xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Roostery123. Deor (talk) 14:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Possibly easier to reach from your own contributions page, where it is one of the links at the bottom called "Edit count". Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:41, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    "peanut gallery"

    i've seen the phrase "peanut gallery" used occasionally on wiki. what is its meaning? lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 13:33, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    We do have a "peanut gallery" article. And for a more wiki-centric take, also WP:PEANUTGALLERY. DMacks (talk) 13:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    We also have Peanut#Gallery. —Wasell(T) 🌻🇺🇦 17:50, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If we're trying to be really complete, need to include File:Peanuts gang.png also:) DMacks (talk) 03:03, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    How are songs re-directed to their albums via wikilinks?

    I'm working on music articles, and in some cases, I can use wikilinks for song titles that re-direct to their original albums on their own. What enables this? And if a song doesn't redirect on its own, is it okay to set up a wikilink that "pipes" to the album (even if the link doesn't redirect to the specific section where the song is discussed)? Thanks. Allreet (talk) 13:35, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Allreet. Sounds like you are talking about a WP:REDIRECT. Someone creates the pointer manually, just like any other edit, but uses the special syntax to make it a redirect instead of an actual article. DMacks (talk) 13:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @dmacks: Thanks...the help page explains it all. Allreet (talk) 17:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Request to remove a blank Wikipedia page

    Good morning, I wanted to know what the process was for removing a blank Wikipedia page. There is a blank Wikipedia page of my family name that is tagged to another Wikipedia page. I want to remove the page of my last name. Kindly provide instructions. Thank you. Marlow Kurtz (talk) 15:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Vandalism help request from 68.199.152.155

    I have noticed some vandalism at Outskirts Press. Namely, replacement of entire article on April 2022 with a promotional press release version. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, 68.199.152.155 (talk) 15:21, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I've restored the version of the article before the spammy content was added. Thanks for the heads up. Isabelle 🏳‍🌈 15:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    How to Edit and Update a Wikipedia Page of a Living Person (Celebrity)

    Hi, I would like to ask how I can prevent others from changing the entry I did for a celebrity (John Arcilla: John Arcilla). He has authorized me to update and correct the entries for his Wikipedia but some of the edits and updates I did have been deleted and reverted back to the older version, which is incorrect. How do I put a citation if the reference is from the actor himself? Please advise. Thank you. Casa Heneral (talk) 19:55, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Casa Heneral Wikipedia has articles, not pages. This is a subtle but important distinction. Please first review conflict of interest. If he is compensating you in any manner for your advocacy, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing disclosure. You are welcome to suggest changes on the article talk page (Talk:John Arcilla) in the form of an edit request(click for instructions). We cannot accept personal recollection, all information must be found in a published reliable source. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for the response. It's helpful. Casa Heneral (talk) 20:20, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Casa Heneral: Please read WP:OWN. Neither the subject of an article nor anyone else controls the contents of an article. The subject and any representatives have less rights to edit the article than do uninvolved editors. The article does not exist to benefit the subject. It exists to provide the intersted reader objective encyclopedic information based on reliable sources. -Arch dude (talk) 20:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for your reply. This is helpful. Casa Heneral (talk) 20:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia article is not publish

    Some days ago we added new article in Wikipedia, but not published yet. We see all of text in the sandbox and searching by name of article, but shows is red (i.e. article is not publish). NurullaAliyev (talk) 20:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @NurullaAliyev: Is this about Draft:Nurulla_Aliyev? If so, read the note on your talk page User_talk:NurullaAliyev about it. You might also need to read WP:AUTO for advice. RudolfRed (talk) 20:21, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Draft:Nurulla Aliyev is nowhere near the stage where it would be accepted into mainspace as an article, as it has a common range of problems. Lack of sourcing and possible conflict of interest are the most obvious ones. See Your first article for more information.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:39, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Donald Winnicott

    Winnicott was my psychoanalytic mentor and helped me to save my first psychotic patient. It was very fortunate that he did because psychiatry far prefers to quieten patients with lobotomizing drugs to helping them with their emotional traumata. In order to make a living, after closed our hospital units, I was able to practice as a GP for the last 20 years of my career.We discovered that psychotic patients became the backbone of my practice. They were so desperate to escape psychiatry and the torture of psychosis that they became the most interesting and rewarding of my career. Id be happy to send you articles I’ve written about this,articles that psychiatry won’t publish or listen to, probably because they have become a branch of the drug industry that make fortunes keeping people on drugs. Echilde (talk) 22:34, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Echilde: Sorry, but Wikipedia is not a place to publish original research: see WP:OR and WP:NOT. I suggest you set up a blog site to start. -Arch dude (talk) 22:47, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Courtesy link Donald Winnicott, for anyone interested. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.160 (talk) 09:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Using a non-free image in more than one article

    Currently this non-free image, which I uploaded a couple of weeks ago, is being used in The Papers of Benjamin Franklin article. I would like to also use this image in the Bibliography of Benjamin Franklin article, but the non-free rational template will only allow for one article to be listed. How does one go about adding this non-free image to a second article in an appropriate fashion? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Gwillhickers. Although it's possible to use a non-free image in more than one way or in more than one article as long as each use of the image satisfies WP:NFCCP, the first use of a non-free image is already considered to be quite exceptional to WP:COPY#Guidelines for images and other media; therefore, each additional use tends to be much more harder to justify because cause it tends to be considered one more step up the exceptional stairway (if that makes sense). The way it is done is by adding a separate specific non-free use rationale to the file's page for each of the file's uses.
    In the case of cover art (e.g. book covers, album covers, DVD covers), the first use is generally OK when it's for primary identification purposes in the main infobox or at the top of of a stand-alone article about the book, album, DVD, etc. the cover represents, but additional uses become much harder to verify as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3. I don't see any way to justify adding the file to the "Bibliography" article per WP:FREER, WP:NFLISTS or WP:NFC#CS that would not be considered WP:DECORATIVE absent adding any sourced critical commentary about the cover art itself directly added to that article. Even if such content were to be found, it would make much more sense contextually to add it to the "Papers" article and would be unnecessarily redundant and out of place in the "Bibliography" article. Non-free book cover art is pretty much never allowed to illustrate individual entries or sections of "Bibliography" type articles and in this case the WP:HATNOTE to main article about the Papers in Bibliography of Benjamin Franklin#The Papers of Benjamin Franklin seems more than sufficient as an alternative to using a non-free image per FREER. So, even if you were to add a rationale for the use to the file's page, it would be very unlikely to survive a challenge by establishing a consensus in favor of such use per WP:JUSTONE.
    Finally, I think the first two images in the "Papers" article should be switched since the "Papers" are the primary subject of the article and its cover art should be at the top of the article. You could even use the template {{Infobox book}} to help do that if you want. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:49, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marchjuly: — Thanks for your prompt and in depth reply. As there is obviously many things to consider here it would seem best that I just be content with the image's use in the one article. As for switching images, I feel the portrait of Franklin is more appropriate as the lede image, with its definitive caption, since he is the actual author of the letters and other writings, while there is a dedicated section for the publication, where Franklin's portrait would not be as appropriate, imo. In any event, I had little idea of what I might have gotten myself into here, as I've only used non-free images a few times before, one image per article Once again, many thanks for your insights. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 00:10, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    September 19

    Requesting article to move

    I've requested the Draft:Ethiopian Revolution in Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests under Uncontroversial request yesterday, and still inactive for several hours ago last edited by GeoffreyT2000. The Supermind (talk) 05:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, The Supermind: firstly, every editor on Wikipedia is a volunteer and does what they want when they choose to (or not); such 'backroom' work is less popular than 'upfront' editing, so maybe none of the few editors willing to do it (I am not) have even noticed your request yet.
    Secondly, you made your request in or approaching the evening of Western Europe and North America, where the majority of active Editors live – it's still night or early morning in the USA, for example. Give it some time, like maybe a few days.
    Thirdly, much of the Western World's (and probably many Wikipedia editors') attention is currently focussed on an ongoing and very rare event, which will be completed later today (I'm listening on radio while typing this, and will shortly be watching). Excuse us while we mourn. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.160 (talk) 09:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    User:90.193.131.160, First, you're not aware relevant answer for my request here, and second all Wikipedia users are contributing over the world, I don't care about the Western world. Third, there is significant contributors in Ethiopia and not less than 100 users. Ethiopia-related article is growing recently and most native users are active than foreign intruding nationals like the West. Anyway, the article successfully moved to mainspace. Thank you for your responding. The Supermind (talk) 10:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, The Supermind. Please don't be rude to your fellow editors. Like the IP user said, Wikipedia is volunteer work. I agree that some of their answer might not have been entirely relevant, but I'd rather not have an argument between you develop.
    Asparagusus (interaction) 12:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Asparagusus: Oh! I didn't recognize the IP user means which they said there was congestion over the ongoing death of Elizabeth II and ignored this idea to convey. It came in my mind that the Western Europe and North America are the only contributors in Wikipedia, having greater superiority than other regions, and seemed to me a demographic bias. I'm so sorry for my neglect to this IP editor and I'm sincerely saddened by Queen's death. Happy editing! The Supermind (talk) 13:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @The Supermind I predict that many, many more admins and editors who can and will do "technical moves" on the Wikipedia for the English-speaking world live in Wesrern Eutope and North America, which is exactly what IP 90 said. Far fewer of this specific subset of editors will live in Ethiopia, although all editors and readers are equally important. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:49, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    71.228.112.175, is true explanation. I agree with you. Most editors have plurality in 2013 in Western, Central Europe, North America, India, Russia, Australia and New Zealand (see Wikipedia:Wikipedians#Demographics). But this data may change over decade due to awareness of editing news and other articles in the rest of the world. It depends on how sources are concentrated toward specific countries, most of them are great powers having considerable reputation to its kind. The Supermind (talk) 06:39, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @The Supermind Yes, that data may change. Still, in 2022, you need to give the volunteer editors some time to sleep. They are not (all) AI minds (yet)... 71.228.112.175 (talk) 12:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I was trying to clean the Knob-and-tube wiring article, and noticed that there are some links that appear in wiki markup as (for example) [joist-en] (being a link to the [joist-en] article on the English Wikipedia). I tried fixing these, and the article history tells me I was successful, but when I hit the Edit button, those weird links are still there in the wiki markup!

    Has anyone come across this before? I can't find any info about this format of links anywhere, either... [User:EditorInTheRye|EditorInTheRye-en] (talk) 08:15, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The edit history shows that you have made two edits to the article. In the first, you made several changes (mostly removing bolding), but in that same edit you somehow changed [[joist]] to [joist-en] - which is not proper link to joist, it displayed as "[joist-en]" (and the same for two other links). Then in the next edit you fixed them. MB 08:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm yes, this seems to be affecting all my edits at the moment, maybe it's some server side error? (you'll notice that this edit has changed the user page link to this format as well, which I seem to have no control over) EditorInTheRye (talk) 09:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @EditorInTheRye: The browser extension Consent-O-Matic can cause this. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, I have that installed, so I think you're absolutely right. Thank you! EditorInTheRye (talk) 10:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I have added Consent-O-Matic to Wikipedia:Browser notes#Unwanted effects (not that I expect many to find it). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks like this issue won't persist for long, as I managed to find a discussion of the bug on their GitHub page, and indeed there was an update waiting for the Safari version I'm using. EditorInTheRye (talk) 13:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    How can we createMam's Profile on Wikipedia, just like we have information about doctors, players on wikipedia

    How can we createMam's Profile on Wikipedia, just like we have information about doctors, players on wikipedia Dr Vidushi Agrawal (talk) 09:46, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    how to use wikipedia to create personal profile for someone Dr Vidushi Agrawal (talk) 09:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The answer is probably, You don't.
    Wikipedia is not a social media site like LinkedIn, which contains profiles: it is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutral articles about notable subjects.
    If the person in question meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then there could be an article about them. The article will not belong to them, will not be controlled by them, will not necessarily contain what they would like it to contain, and should be based almost entirely on what people unconnected with them have chosen to publish about them, not on what they or their associates say or want to say.
    If you can find the independent reliable published sources which are a non-negotiable minimum for establishing notability, then please read your first article, to find out how to create a draft article.
    Creating a new article is much much more difficult than new editors usually realise, and I always advise people not to even try until they have been making improvements to existing articles for a few months and learnt how Wikipedia works. Note that if the person you want to create an article is somebody you are connected with, that makes it even harder because your conflict of interest may make it difficult to write in a neutral way about them. ColinFine (talk) 10:45, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Dr Vidushi Agrawal Who, or what, is Mam? 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:51, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Strange category

    Hi all: at the top of The International Journal of Lower Extremity Wounds there is a weird category which doesn't appear in the list of categories at the end, and although it has WL brackets it's displaying as text. Might it be somehow incorrectly auto-generated from {{Infobox journal}} which does have a similar |impact-year= parameter? doesn't appear to have an explanation. Any ideas? Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 11:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @MinorProphet: Yes, it's generated by {{Infobox journal}}. |impact-year= should only be a year. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed, many thanks. MinorProphet (talk) 12:14, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Resolved

    Name Correction

    Article on Michael Wagner writer. Name is Michael B. Wagner not Michael I. Wagner. I'm one of his sisters. 2600:1700:5584:0:689B:B14A:C3C0:1C9F (talk) 12:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Courtesy link: Michael I. Wagner. He is entered on two websites – neither unfortunately qualifying as "Reliable" – listed under External links, as "I.". On the other hand, at least one other (probably unreliable) website (see https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/11732385) gives "B.".
    What is needed is a published Reliable source to confirm his initial. (Wikipedia cannot, for obvious reasons, accept as fact an assertion from an anonymous IP address, since it cannot be absolutely certain that you really are his sister – unfortunately prankers and vandals frequently attempt to insert false information.)
    Can you provide either a link to, or the bibliographic details of, an authoritative published source – such as an article in a respected newspaper or journal, or a book from a respected publisher – that confirms "B."? If not, it might be necessary to remove mention of the initial from the article and move it to a new title, such as (but not necessarily) "Michael Wagner (writer)". {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.193.131.160 (talk) 13:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Padlock icon

    Hi, browsing through earlier posts, #Regarding page lock and page revert mentions {{padlock}} which has a very specific function. I wondered if there is a template which displays the same padlock icons eg |url-access= registration/subscription etc. of {{cite book}}, but for manually typed citations? Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 12:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    There's {{subscription required}} and {{registration required}}, although they use text rather than the padlock symbol. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 13:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There is this:
    {{free access}} → Free access icon
    As far as I know, there isn't a template equivalent of |url-access=registration () or |url-access=subscription () but there is:
    {{closed access}} → Closed access icon
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    {{limited access}} → Limited access icon. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Fantastic! Perhaps they could all be gathered together into a single template...(?) Anyway, thanks all for your collective expertise. Blue skies, MinorProphet (talk) 16:18, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Another

    Resolved

    Add Power Line Church on the incorporated list

    Add Power line Church on the incorporated list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.234.160.37 (talk) 16:32, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    We have no article on any 'Power Line Church', and if there is a list somewhere you think it should be added to, you'll have to tell us which one. And cite sources showing why. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm guessing that it is this church in Florida, but it would not meet WP:GNG for a standalone article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    To explain the answers that have already been given, but that might be a bit obscure to a new editor: Wikipedia is not a list of everything. It only covers subjects that meet its own definition of notability (roughly, that several independent sources have discussed the subject in some depth), and most organisations - even most churches - do not. Only if Power Line Church meets those criteria could we have an article on it, and only then should it appear in a "list" article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:35, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    We have more than 100,000 lists. It's possible but unlikely that whatever you mean by "the incorporated list" actually does allow adding it without an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter I thought that all WP lists were lists of articles. No? 71.228.112.175 (talk) 12:25, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wiki ED users with usernames that may not be appropriate or unconstructive edits

    Hello! I've previously seen users contributing via wikied with usernames that I'd normally consider problematic. However I usually don't bother reporting them because WikiEd should have some sort of approval for usernames... right? I also recently encountered a WikiEd user who made an unconstructive edit to an article (which I warned them for). Should I be treating WikiEd users like normal users or should I be leaving them to something/someone else? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    From my understanding student editors are not above the law, and in fact some have been blocked for unacceptable usernames (i.e HomoeroticMikePenceExperience). The point of Wiki Ed is to teach students how to edit Wikipedia, not to put them in their own filter bubble in which the volunteer community is not welcome. So, go ahead and treat them like you would anyone else. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pppery: Alright sounds good, thanks! I see student editors as in sort of a gray area, they have people who are supposed to watch them, but at the same time they're also normal editors. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks @Pppery.
    @Blaze Wolf you should treat them like other editors, but if they run into problems you can always ping me. I'm happy to intervene with any students in classes we support, and I have a good chance of being able to reach people who aren't reading their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:11, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ian (Wiki Ed): Sounds good, thanks! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:13, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding information to a wikipedia page

    Adding information to a wikipedia page. 2601:87:4200:6330:ADFC:A5D9:5FEA:C105 (talk) 22:03, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    What about it? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 22:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposed updates to the NAD page

    Hello good people, I would like to propose updating the NAD page (Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide - Wikipedia) with current research being conducted by NAD Research (https://nadresearch.org/). I am not a science writer, but I am familiar with the work of NAD Research. Are you able to advise me about the appropriateness of undertaking this update myself? Thank you for your assistance. NAD writer NAD writer (talk) 22:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    If the research in question has been reliably published (and for a subject like this, it probably should meet the more stringent conditions of WP:MEDRS) then it can be summarised in the article. Whether or not you are a science writer is irrelevant, but your chosen name suggests that you might be connected with nadresearch.org. If you are, then you have a conflict of interest in seeking to add that project's research to the article, and should certainly discuss it on the article's talk page first, and get consensus that it is appropriate to add. ColinFine (talk) 23:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Colin,
    Thank you for your response. Yes, I am connected to NAD Research. Where do I find the article's talk page?
    Thank you again. NAD writer (talk) 23:04, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Articles have a 'Talk' tab at the top left; or in this case, here's a link: Talk:Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide --136.56.52.157 (talk) 23:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @NAD writer Please read the linked text at "conflict of interest" in ColinFine's answer. Thanks. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    September 20

    Jayvé

    Jayvé (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Dear, A message was received that the page of Jayvé may be deleted after 7 days. Could you please confirm that the page of Jayvé is approved by Wikipedia and will be kept please? Thanks in advance, Jonathan JonathanV123 (talk) 04:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    No, the page has not been 'approved'. And nor will it be in the state it is in now, since it entirely fails to demonstrate that this individual meets Wikipedia:Notability criteria, through significant coverage in independant reliable published sources. And judging by your username, you should probably read Wikipedia:Autobiography, and the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest policy. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But how to show more proof? The page is about a DJ who produced 2 famous songs. Links to the songs have been added. What else is needed? Do you need a copy of the passport of the artist? JonathanV123 (talk) 04:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    We don't need 'links to songs'. We need evidence that the subject of the article meets Wikipedia notability criteria. Which cannot be demonstrated through a bizarre link to a Google book search result referencing a Journal Encyclopédique from 1775. Or a link to Jayvé's YouTube channel. Or a link to an Amazon page flogging his album, even with the claim that Jeff Bezos wrote the page. Read the material you have been directed to, and come back when you can provide actual evidence of significant coverage in independent published reliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:23, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @JonathanV123 "How to show more proof" is to study the information at the links in Andy's first reply (the words and phrases in blue). Especially "reliable published sources". WP articles are based on what independent published sources have chosen to write. The blue links have all the info. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 06:03, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @JonathanV123 Two questions: Did you take that picture yourself, with your own camera; and are you writing about yourself? Thanks. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 06:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Messed up infobox - Congress of Tamaulipas

    The infobox at Congress of Tamaulipas is wierd with multiple occurances of "line-height:1.2em; padding:.1em 0;" that I don't understand. I don't see any issues in the parameters and the infobox itself hasn't changed recently, ideas?Naraht (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Naraht: This is possibly due to last month's changes to the conditional logic in the {{Longitem}} template. Perhaps Neveselbert (talk · contribs) could take a look? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Should be fixed now, thanks for the heads up. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 07:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    South African Institute of Tax Professionals

    Good day

    I have be trying to edit the page South African Insitute of Tax Professionals, which changed its name to the South African Institute of Taxation.

    I have failed at all attempts as I am not an admin of the page, where I have edited some information it always comes back to its old default page contents.

    How do I navigate around this and/or fix it as I am the Head of Communications in the said institute?

    Please assist. MikeSAIT (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The fact that you are the head of communications does not give you any special rights in how the article should be written. On the contrary, it means you should avoid editing the article directly yourself, because it will be hard for you to write in a neutral manner consistent with Wikipedia’s core purpose.
    Case in point, looking at the page history, I see you have tried to edit the page, but your edit was reverted by ProClasher97. They did not leave an edit summary, but presumably they object to the promotional language you tried to edit in (for instance, SAIT’s mission is to uplift the profession (...) Members must adhere to a strong set of ethics (...)).
    You should instead head over to the talk page of the article, in that case Talk:South_African_Institute_of_Tax_Practitioners, start a discussion that says explicitly what changes you want (in a "change X to Y" format, not a general "improve this section"). If you copy-paste the magic code {{edit request}} at the top of your post there, it will bring the request to the attention of editors who patrol such requests, and make it likely that you will get a quick answer.
    I also see that someone else, with the account name MMMaseko, tried to put in a similarly promotional edit before, and was similarly reverted. Given the similarities in editing timing, I suspect that person is part of your communications team. Please clarify and have them make the same WP:PAID disclosure if needed. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @MikeSAIT: As you are part of the institute you have a paid relationship and must disclose said relationship, which is usually done on your user page at User:MikeSAIT. You should also not directly edit the article because of this, and instead make edit requests on the article's talk page at Talk:South African Institute of Tax Practitioners. Also keep in mind that article subjects generally use the common name they're known by in reliable sources. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 09:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Ronny Numa

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roni_Numa

    Hello, The name is wrong The right is Ronny Numa. Rubidresler (talk) 08:55, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    There is always the possibility of variation in transliterating a name from a differnt script, but all the English sources cited spell his name as "Roni" not "Ronny". Unless you can cite Reliable source that names him as "Ronny", your changes are inappropriate, and I will be reverting them. ColinFine (talk) 10:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Telephone update

    Greetings How do I update the telephone contacts on attached? I would like to change the current Tel. number to 0711 024747

    Kind Regards, Doris Mwirigi. Doris Mwirigi (talk) 09:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Doris Mwirigi If you are talking about our article Kenya Airways it does not have a telehone number to update, as we do not put telephone numbers in our articles. If you are not talking about our article, we probably can't help you, as this is just the help desk for the English Wikipedia. - Arjayay (talk) 09:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:13, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the quick response Doris Mwirigi (talk) 09:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Arjayay Doris Mwirigi (talk) 09:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    hi

    We note in section where you show Newspapers in Ireland our paper Dublin Gazette has now been entered and we arfe in exisitnece for clsoe to 20 yeras-- Please place in section where you have FREESHEETS and incoude our title please thanks

    Dublin Gazette inclusion in Newspapers in ireland 89.100.165.58 (talk) 10:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is not a directory of businesses where mere existence warrants a mention; it is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, called notability, such as the definition of a notable organization. To be included in a list, there must already be an article about your newspaper. You should not be the one to write it, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @331dot. The list article Newspapers in Ireland has dozens of redlinks and content with no evidence of notability, especially in the section on closed newspapers. As such it may need extensive clean-up per WP:STAND, although there are exceptions mentioned at WP:LISTCOMPANY. The Dublin Gazette has an entry with inline citation to its own website but it is not clear what the IP is asking for since there is no separate "freesheets" section. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:52, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    A freesheet is another name for a free newspaper or other similar periodical, like this one. Maybe they assumed Wikipedia has a classified ad section? Sumanuil. 02:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    AN/ANI vs AIV

    Hello! I'm curious, when is it appropriate to take a user who has a clear misunderstanding of WIkipedia's policies to AN/ANI compared to AIV? Would much rather not point any fingers as that's rather rude, but I will say if it is important to know to answer my question. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    AIV is for clear vandalism/disruption/spamming. If the issue is anything else, it should go to ANI. 331dot (talk) 13:40, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Slatersteven being insulting and rude

    WRONG VENUE
    There is a report now at the ANI. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:37, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:76.142.93.168 Slatersteven is being insulting, condescending and rude. I need assistance. 76.142.93.168 (talk) 14:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The correct place to report a user is wp:ani, I would advise against it. Slatersteven (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Fine. Close this, I give up. You cyberbullies win. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.142.93.168 (talk) 15:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Removing italic from title

    The title for the article Temple of Dendur is in italic. As suggested by another editor on the talk page, this is in error. I found instructions on how to add italic a title, but not how to remove it. Any suggestions Rublamb (talk) 21:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @Rublamb! It's being italicized because Template:Infobox artwork does so automatically. You can end this automatic behavior by adding |italic title=no as an infobox parameter. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well that was easy. Thanks so much. Rublamb (talk) 21:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    What does it mean when all edit revisions on an article are marked with blue?

    Hey. I am unfamiliar with this concept and I am therefore curious on what the purpose of it is, or what it symbolizes. Thanks. 12u (talk) 21:52, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @12u, I think you're referring to an article that's been placed under WP:PENDING. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This seems to be correct. Thanks for answering my question. 12u (talk) 22:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]


    September 21

    About the Page I Created

    Hello,


    I created the page "Fu Qiumeng Fine Art" and I like to know how's the process going ?Thank you so much.

    Qmfineart (talk) 00:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Qmfineart, I'm sorry, but it doesn't look like you have created any pages. Your XTools page shows no pages created. Could you please clarify?
    Also, if you typed content in the edit box but did not click publish, then that is gone and cannot be retrieved. Sorry if that happened, but 'publish' doesn't actually publish it to Wikipedia mainspace; rather it is more like a 'save' button. Weeklyd3 (talk) 03:01, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Link: Draft:Fu Qiumeng Fine Art (I assume this is the draft meant). 97.113.27.216 (talk) 12:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    OP blocked for user name issues. 97.113.27.216 (talk) 12:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Reinstate a page name change

    Hi there. I represent my client called Trustpower. They discovered their Wikipedia page war renamed to a company they own. It needs to be re instated. How do I do this on their behalf? Here's the page in question - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manawa_Energy 103.227.15.2 (talk) 04:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I will add a general information template to your user talk page that explains something about Wikipedia pertinent to your stiuation. Please take the time to read through it and please refrain from directly editing the article Manawa Energy to try and make any changes. There are process in place to help you resolve this type of thing, but you need to follow them for them to work as intended. Finally, if by chance you subsequently created a WP:ACCOUNT so that you can edit the article, then please use that account from hereon. Jumping back and forth between accounts will only make it harder to help you and may cause others to mistake your efforts for disruption. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Also be aware that you must declare your paid editing relationship per the Terms of Use, see WP:PAID. That's easier to do with an account. 331dot (talk) 06:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Manawa Energy Ltd. is a power generation company, which was formerly known as Trustpower until they sold their retail business and the Trustpower brand to Mercury Energy. I'm not sure which company the IP is a client of, but both of the relevant articles seem to correctly explain this (slightly confusing) fact.
    The only potential issue is the Trustpower redirect itself. It currently points at Manawa, the company formerly known as Trustpower, but it arguably should point at Mercury, the company currently doing business as Trustpower. I think RfD should take a stab at this, and add some hatnotes or maybe a disambiguation page. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 07:14, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd support a disambiguation page. Maproom (talk) 07:30, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Need an additional name to be added to the wikipedia page on 'List of people from Himachal Pradesh'

    In this page under the sub topic no. 9- Science and Education, please add the profile of my Late grandfather Dr. Lakshmi Sigh (L.S.) Negi. He was :-

    The first PhD holder from Himachal in plant genetics from Minnesota, USA in the shortest period of 2 years 3 months (1953) · Director of Agriculture, HP (1957-1963) · President of All India Association of Vice Chancellors (1978) · Vice Chancellor Jawahar Lal Nehru Krishi Vishwavidyalaya, Jabalpur, MP (1968-1972) · Vice Chancellor Assam Agriculture university, Jorhat, Assam (1972-1977) · UPSC expert member for Horticulture Interview Panel · Led multiple delegations from India to countries like Berlin, Germany, Belgium, Holland on Horticulture apart from scholarships he received and worked on from USA, Japan, Hong Kong and Philippines. (from 1953-1964) · Multiple research papers & books written on horticulture · Posthumously has an auditorium made in his name in Dr. YS Parmar University of Horticulture and Forestry, Solan, HP (30 years after his death) HimachaliTuni (talk) 08:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The article List of people from Himachal Pradesh lists people who already have a Wikipedia article. To be added to the list, a new Draft article should be written and submitted for review and, if accepted, the name can then be added. However. it is clear that you, personally, have a conflict of interest as the grandson of the person you wish to add and you would need to declare that on your user page before starting work. In general it is rarely advisable to write an article about yourself or a close family member. It is much better to wait until another, uninvolved, editor decides that the individual is notable enough to warrant writing an article. In all cases, they content of any article must be supported by independent and reliable sources and not based on family recollections.  Velella  Velella Talk   08:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Family of Catherine, Princess of Wales

    This ref - number 46 - is no good. Please take out the quote, it is not necessary. Here is the citation: [1]. Thanks 175.38.42.62 (talk) 08:30, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I think what the OP is actually trying to say is. There's a reference error, the same reference has been defined with different content. It needs fixing, not removing. - X201 (talk) 09:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I've renamed the one of the refs. OP can remove it now if they want. - X201 (talk) 09:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ "The Headrow, Permanent House and Headrow Buildings". Leodis – A Photographic Archive of Leeds. City of Leeds UK. Retrieved 12 November 2020.

    User Name

    hi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impetus_Technologies this is the Wikipedia page which is deleted. We need to use the username "Impetus Technologies" or "Impetus" but unable to use it. Kindly help us 103.158.140.252 (talk) 11:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    We do not permit usernames that appear to represent companies: see Wikipedia:Username policy. And nor do we permit shared accounts, as your 'we' implies. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    We are also not here for promotional purposes - the reason that Impetus Technologies was deleted for twice - we only write articles about companies that are notable and covered by unconnected, unbiased sources. - X201 (talk) 11:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Please note that usernames are not tied to article titles - anybody can edit pretty much any article here, regardless of its title, and users with usernames matching an article title do not have any more control on the article than anybody else. Any next attempt at creating an article, regardless of its title, must comply with Wikipedia's Content policies, and if done by a company staff member also the rules on paid editing. Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Note: I have corrected the URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&diff=prev&oldid=1111526988 --CiaPan (talk) 12:44, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Interactive guide to getting started with Wikipedia

    Hello fellow Help Deskers. I started to take my WP:TRIAGE onboarding steps and turned them into a simple interactive guide, User:Timtempleton/TRIAGE1. I'd welcome feedback on the talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 16:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Vandalism help request from 2601:204:D601:1AF0:85AD:1B4E:2914:6550

    I have noticed some vandalism at America's Next Top Model (season 7). Namely, someone keeps changing the contestants table and/or the call-out order table so it's full of fake contestants who are in the wrong order. I've already fixed the most recent issue by using the August 31st, 2022 page revision as a reference. However, from looking at the revision history for the page and the number of incorrect edits this month, I suspect this page might get vandalized again. Just wanted to point it out! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:D601:1AF0:85AD:1B4E:2914:6550 (talk) 19:00, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Places within places in infoboxes

    At the State of Scott article I have tried to show Tennessee as being part of the United States in the infobox, like so:

    Preceded/Succeeded by

    United States

    • Tennessee

    Can someone explain to me how to do this? I can't find out through trial and error. Leontrooper (talk) 21:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The documentation at Template:Infobox former subdivision does not mention this possibility. It possible that the template does support it and the documentation is incomplete, but I doubt it. ColinFine (talk) 21:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I have seen it done on other pages in the past. Problem is, I can't find any now. Leontrooper (talk) 09:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    September 22

    Editing Photos

    Could someone explain how I edit a photo to remove an incorrect photo and replace it with the correct photo please? Brando1882 (talk) 00:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Brando1882, you just replace the file URL. See WP:EIS. Sungodtemple (talk) 01:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Brando1882 (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I assume this relates to your recent edit of the Texas Jack Vermillion Article? If so, we really need to determine for sure that we've got the right 'Jack' before worrying about photos. There seems to have been prior discussion of this question on the talk page, but sadly it got nowhere. It might be worth asking around to see if anyone has more knowledge on the topic area - Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities would possibly be the place to start, since Wikipedia:WikiProject United States History seems to be rather inactive. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:14, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for wanting the information to be accurate. I have the correct details, as I wrote biographies of both men, John Oberland Vermillion and John Wilson Vermillion. I personally visited and interviewed both families. I obtained the correct photos from the correct family. In 2010 I wrote the biography of John Wilson Vermillion and it was awarded the Wild West History Association's award for excellence. It is full of primary source material that proves beyond all doubt that John Wilson Vermillion never set foot in Arizona in his entire life and was NOT Texas Jack. In 2012 I published the full biography of both men in the book, "Wyatt Earp's Vendetta Posse Rider - The Story of Texas Jack Vermillion. It is available for purchase at tombstonevendetta.com I don't think there is another researcher alive who knows more about these men, and this has been acknowledged by other well known authors such as Gary Roberts and Casey Tefertiller and John Boesenecker. The information is fully verified. Brando1882 (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In which case there are a couple of issues that need addressing. Firstly, per theWikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines, you should probably make a statement on your talk page stating that you are the author of the work. And secondly, we need to address whether your book (which appears to be self-published?) meets the Wikipedia:Reliable sources guidelines, which really needs to be demonstrated through independent published sources - i.e. evidence that you are recognised expert in the field, or that the work itself has been reviewed and/or cited in independent reliable sources. We can't just take peoples' word that they have the necessary expertise. This may be rather discouraging for someone who has put a great deal of effort into research on an esoteric subject, and accordingly, I'd recommend not getting your hopes up too much about the changes you have made to the article sticking - at least, not without independent corroborative evidence from further published sources to back it up. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I never get my hopes up. I only want the information to be accurate and to be educational. The Vermillion families deserve nothing but the truth and nothing less. The Wild West History Association (WWHA) is the premier western history association in the USA. They do not give out awards lightly. Brando1882 (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Brando1882. I've reverted the changes you made so that they can initaite a discussion on the article's talk page. When making a major change such a this, it's often better to WP:CAUTIOUS than WP:BOLD and seek a WP:CONSENSUS on the relevant article's talk page instead. The changes you made are still there in the page's history and others will be able to see them in order to assess whether they meet relevant Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I do understand your desire to get things right and your concerns about the Vermillion families, but Wikipedia article content really should only be based on what can be reliably sourced and not what we may know to be true. Moreover, Wikipedia articles shouldn't be used as a means for setting the record straight or righting some great wrong. I've posted some notifications about this on the talk pages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history and Wikipedia:WikiProject American Old West to let the members of those WikIProjects know that there may be potential problems with the Texas Jack Vermillion article. Your more than welcome to start about a discussion about the changes you think should be made on the article's talk page and explain why you think the changes are needed. As AndyTheGrump posted above, your expertise on the subject is certainly welcome, but it doesn't give you any special type of editorial control over the article's content; in other words, you will still need to establish that the changes you feel are needed are in accordance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Some Wikipedia things that you might want to take a look at are WP:CITESELF, WP:SPS and WP:EXPERT; those sections contain some general information that you might found helpful. Please don't get discourage by being reverted. Wikipedia sometimes can seem to move slowly as it tries to make sure the content in its articles is correct. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If this was not so sad, it would be funny. Tom Clavin recently published the wrong information about Texas Jack in his Tombstone book, by relying on the incorrect Wikipedia data on Texas Jack. You are now telling me that the guy who actually did the research and wrote the book correcting all the mistakes cannot make changes to benefit history and bring relief to the Vermillion families. If I was trying to promote my book I would have done this 10 years ago when it was published. May I ask what your particular interest is in Texas Jack Vermillion? Brando1882 (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I just went to the "Talk" page and Jeff Smith has already brought this topic to the attention of all concerned and supported everything I had written. He did this several years ago. Read his comments please. Brando1882 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    My particular interest is in Wikipedia, not Texas Jack Vermillion. Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources in and of themselves as explained in Wikipedia:General Disclaimer, but the sources cited to support the content contained in articles might be reliable. If there's incorrect information in the article, then it can and should be fixed; such a thing, however, should be done in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines as explained in Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute. I added a template {{Disputed}} to the top of the article's page, which in turn added the article to Category:Accuracy disputes. The changes you made to the article were completely unsupported by any citations to any reliable sources which is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia. Even if the changes are things you know to be true, Wikipedia policy still requires that they be verifiable. If I hadn't reverted them, another editor or even perhaps a WP:BOT would've eventually done so. The best thing for you to do would be to discuss the changes you want to make on the article's talk page and provide links to or information about reliable sources that support them. That is how matters like this are most often resolved on Wikipedia. My revert was not intended to be an affront to either you or the Vermillion families. Wikipedia has lots of policies and guidelines that can be hard to understand when you're just starting out, but all users are expected to edit in accordance with these policies and guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I have just added some of the full primary sources to the Talk page. Jeff Smith also has pointed out the error of this Wikipedia page years ago and nothing happened. I have now done the same. Brando1882 (talk) 03:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    baned

    trying to fined out what i did to get my account banned 2600:6C5E:4C3F:29BC:F0A9:7620:84D6:5AD (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    That would depend on which account you're referring to — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 02:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Reply

    Hello, I received a lot of emails with plenty of questions from you. Yes, i do confirm that all pictures have been made by myself JonathanV123 (talk) 02:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @JonathanV123: you should reply to the user talk page of the user you're trying to talk to. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 10:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Error Message

    I am receiving an error message in which I am having issues removing the error from the article. here is the error message

    {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help) Gwen chandler (talk) 02:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @Gwen chandler. If you use dates of the form YYYY-MM-DD you must include the DD values. You can switch your date style to "month day, year" which lets you use dates like September 2020 without the day. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    How do you update that information I made an attempt but was unable to do so Gwen chandler (talk) 03:39, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gwen chandler You just need to use |date=September 2020 instead of what you have at present. Also, you don't need to give a URL for an citation with a DOI, since the software creates the link automaticallly. A bigger problem is that you are creating an article on your own User Page, which is the wrong place to do that. Please use the WP:AFC process instead, as explained at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    To get |doi= to automatically link |title= in {{cite journal}} templates, you must set |doi-access=free.
    {{cite journal |title=The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease |journal=Environment International | doi=10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739}}
    "The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease". Environment International. doi:10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739.
    {{cite journal |title=The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease |journal=Environment International | doi=10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739 |doi-access=free}}
    "The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease". Environment International. doi:10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739.
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 12:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Self Published Sources on BLP pages

    Question. WP:SPS says that self-published sources are not allowed as sources of information about living persons, even if the source is a subject matter expert. Does that mean they should not be used on BLP pages at all? Or is it acceptable to use them for comments that aren't directly about the subject of the page?

    The specific source at issue is the John McWhorter quote on the page for Philip Ewell. McWhorter does meet the bar as a subject matter expert, even if he isn't a music theorist. The quote in question is about McWhorter's reaction to Ewell's research, not about Ewell himself.

    Does that matter? Is a citation to a self-published source acceptable on a BLP page if it is not used as a source about the topic of the article, or should even these be avoided? PianoDan (talk) 03:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    To put this in context please see the lengthy discussion in which consensus was built to include the quote at Talk:Philip Ewell#Inclusion of a criticism section and the later discussion at Talk:Philip Ewell#McWhorter Quote from Substack. There has been a concerted effort to remove all criticism from the article on Ewell’s research, and, rightfully in many cases, several of the criticisms were removed. However, this particular quote seemed cogent and community consensus was to keep it. My main concern is that removing the quote essentially leaves an unbalanced POV on Ewell’s research, which is controversial. I suggested that we perhaps should move the content to its own article at Music Theory's White Racial Frame (currently a redirect) where criticism could be more easily housed.4meter4 (talk) 06:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    How to Add Page In Wikipedia

    How to Add Page In Wikipedia Priyanshukailashpatle (talk) 10:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @Priyanshukailashpatle: read up on help:your first article. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 10:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Submission

    Dear Team,

    I have created a page for my client, but unable to submit it for approval as I am not getting any option to do so, could you kindly help? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rakanya

    Regards, Rakesh Rakanya (talk) 10:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    The page is at Advanced research technical council, looks like Onel5969 reviewed it a few minutes ago. Primefac (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But in light of your admission above, I'm moving it to draft. Please read WP:UPE, and follow the process there. Onel5969 TT me 11:25, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The mainspace article has been recreated (perhaps inadvertently). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 11:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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