Talk:KDNL-TV/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: AstonishingTunesAdmirer (talk · contribs) 04:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey! I will review the article soon. Please stand by. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 04:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Overview

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

• because Plaza was also sitting on a permit for channel 26 in San Francisco – I was going to say that "sitting on" sounds informal, but Wiktionary says that actually it's an idiom, which are discouraged per WP:WTW.
  • Reworded.
• after that, the games moved to KSDK (channel 5) – as someone who's unfamiliar with this, is "channel 5" supposed to be lowercase? The linked article has it in both lowercase and capitalized, while ref 32 has it capitalized too.
  • We don't capitalize it, but a lot of media outlets will. (We only capitalize "channel" in running text in the name of an organization, and the cases similar to this are generally non-US entities, things like Channel 4).
• Is the first ref 47 necessary? It's followed by another ref 47.
  • Removed.
• With KTVI switching to Fox, the ABC affiliation was now up for grabs – according to Wiktionary, "up for grabs" is also an idiom, also discouraged per WP:WTW.
  • Reworded.
• resulted in the children's block returning to KTVI – is it supposed to be "returning"? I apologize in advance if that's my ESL, but doesn't "return" mean it previously had the children's block? Unless I missed something after reading the paragraph and refs 75 and 76, it sounds like it's the first time the children's block moved there.
  • Nice catch. Reworded.
• Ref 98 has "work" parameter, but cite book doesn't support it.
  • This did not show as a CS1 error until very recently. Fixed.
• The station was described by insiders as adrift – checking ref 79, it appears to be about KDNL. But that sentence is right after the sentence about Gary Whitaker's new TV station, so it's a bit unclear.
  • Reworded.

Spot checks

As I can't decide which references are more important than the others, I let random.org's fair draw decide (I also included a few refs I already checked earlier).

• 1 – the article says it was a four-year freeze, but the ref says "Federal Communications Commission in Washington issued last night to end its three-and-a-half-year freeze". I guess it's up to you what level of precision is necessary and whether it should be rounded up or down, but personally I would mention that it's a nearly four-year freeze. Y
  • Fixed.
• 9 – FCC did dismiss both applications. Y
• 21 – control was indeed transferred from stockholders of Greater St. Louis Television Corp. to Thomas M. Evans. However, I would put another ref 22 after Citing "unanticipated difficulties and unexpected changed circumstances" as ref 21 doesn't support that. Y
  • Added a new cite invoke.
• 32 – luckily enough, already checked it. Confirmed games moved to KSDK. Y
• 37 – Time Inc. indeed entered the negotiations and American Television and Communications was its subsidiary. Y
• 45 – the source supports October discounts, $100K losses figure, 10K households signed up, and Cox shutting down the subscription service. Y
• 74 – confirmed News 30 moved to 10 PM, 6 PM newscast was added, and moved all KTVI's ABC programming other than the soap opera. Y
• 75 – as I checked it earlier, Channel 24 (KNLC) did pick up Fox Children's Network programs. Y
• 76 – already checked, does mention poor image quality even on cable, does mention urging children to protest an execution, does mention moving to KTVI. Y
• 79 – as I already checked it earlier, it does contain insider's assessment of the station. It also does include the comparison with Channel 2 aka KTVI. Y
• 105 – confirmed WXLV news operations were suspended in January 2002. Y
• 112 – the source supports that KSDK began producing newscasts for KDNL and that they were "adding additional resources [...] in order to make it happen", but I don't see any mentions of the location or that they used a virtual set. Y
• 124 – the link is region blocked for me, and I can't open it even with VPN. I tried opening it through Web Archive, but I'm not sure if it loads the correct .pdf, as the one it loads doesn't seem to contain anything related to KDNL. I have absolutely no clue what I'm supposed to look for, though, so I will assume good faith on this one Y (however, I tried opening the web archive link in the article and it seems it's completely irrelevant?).  
  • The archive error was inexplicable, but KDNL is indeed not on that list (found a new link for the source material). Removed.

Don't see anything else, apart from these minor issues, as the article is well-written. I'll try to check it again later. AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 18:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

• @AstonishingTunesAdmirer: Responded to all issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:50, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

  I read the article once more and I don't see any more issues, so I'll pass it. Congrats! AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 21:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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