User talk:Westcoastbiker

Hello, Westcoastbiker! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 00:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

I read a good bit of the style guide and guidelines (notability, sources, neutrality). I worked on my first article, and I published it as a basic attempt. It was deleted, and besides an automated code for what was the problem, I got no further explanation. I attempted to simply improve the article altogether, because I agree that high quality is important.

I want to take the time now to discuss the page I created with other editors and administrators so that I can go about publishing it properly and not worry about causing anyone else unnecessary psychological pain. Right now, it's on my userspace with the title Bettertrades. What do I do to follow through on the final steps to publication, and how can I make sure that I am treated fairly and promptly with a discussion if anyone has major disagreements?

I can't help you unless I know what the title of the article was :). Re post the helpme template when you reply please. —— nixeagle 18:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

• You can discuss the article with User:Coren, who deleted it, and User:Jerry, who userfied it, for one. I'm assuming the article was Bettertrades. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I see your article User:Westcoastbiker/Bettertrades. Please take a look at WP:CORP for what is required to meet the notability guidelines. Also please read WP:COI (just in case) and WP:FAQ/Business. Ask the deleting admin to take a look. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 18:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Use of article categories

Please note that article drafts in the user name space should not be added to article categories. Using the nowiki tag (there are other ways to do the same thing) is one way to keep the draft out of the active category. When the draft is moved back to the article name space, simply delete the nowiki tag. Dbiel ^(Talk) 01:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I had seen that someone suggested that articles should always include categories, and I thought I'd just go ahead and add them to mine. I'm pretty new to this, so I had no idea that the article would actually show up without being in the official space.Westcoastbiker (talk) 13:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Westcoastbiker

No problem. Wikipedia is a complex place with a lot to learn. I know I am still learning more all the time. Yet at the same time it is a place where anyone can participate. There is always plenty of people arround to point out mistakes and lend a hand if needed. So there is no need to worry about making a mistake. Just go for it, or as Wikipedia would say, be bold. It is actually impossible for the average editor to make any serious mistakes that can not be easily corrected or reversed. Dbiel ^(Talk) 19:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)