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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Valley2city 20:27, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Paris explosion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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The previous two AfDs were started shortly after the event, so there may have been an indication of this being a lasting event. However, four years on it's clear that WP:LASTING is not met. This event, as sad as it may be, fails WP:NEVENT.

The sources in the article, albeit from global outlets, pretty much mimic each other: WP:DEPTH. Google searches for this event bring up very little beyond January 2019 outside of passing mentions (and sensationalist recounts), and the manslaughter charge (which I cannot find an outcome for, so it appears to not have been notable enough to report on the result).

I propose this be redirected to List of explosions. If not for the previous two AfDs, I'd have already done that. Anarchyte (talk) 11:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to List of explosions per nom and per WP:NOTNEWS. All significant coverage appears to be from primary sources, which do not count toward notability. A full count of the keep !votes in both previous discussions shows that all but one of the keep !votes were "X people died" (WP:BIGNUMBER), "other explosions have articles" (WP:OTHERSTUFF), "it will be notable once information comes out" (WP:CRYSTAL), or "it was already at AfD" (WP:LASTTIME). The sole exception is one that provided primary sources. I will change my !vote if someone can find in depth retrospective coverage from multiple sources after there were no more developments in the story. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 14:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Some lasting effects as discussed in the Fr wiki article, one victim lost the use of their legs and asked the mayor of Paris for help when they ran for President, not sure how relevant it is. [1]. Gas explosions are routine, this wasn't Notre Dame that caught fire... Oaktree b (talk) 15:04, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 22:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as having substantial persistent coverage in reliable sources, clearing the WP:NEVENT hurdles handily. Coverage on at least a national scale has continued even in 2023: BFM TV, Cnews. Here's a (regional) article from just a couple of weeks ago on the latest turns in the procedural saga. All quite in-depth -- although to be sure, at this point the story is more about the long battle over compensation and fault than about the explosion per se. Coverage over four years on a national scale appears ample to meet the WP:NEVENT provision for significant non-routine coverage that persists over a period of time.. -- Visviva (talk) 01:25, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep A case of Significant coverage. Okoslavia (talk) 09:05, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep - Seven sources including BBC and CNN clears WP:N, but very weak on WP:LASTING. Enough good info that it wouldn't fit well in List of Explosions. No urgent reason to delete. Last1in (talk) 19:27, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:36, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.