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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. Work out the details on what is and is not a secondary or high school, then have this discussion if necessary. There seems to be significant confusion on that point. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:32, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Albatross Grammar School

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Appears to be a non-notable grammar school, and per wp standards a redirect (after delete of this content) in order. Epeefleche (talk) 21:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, Gene. I had understood that while we usually keep high schools per editor consensus, that is not the case with middle schools/junior high schools and other schools that are junior to high schools. Can you perhaps point me to the consensus that middle schools/junior high schools are kept, that you refer to? Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:18, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm happy to change my position if I can see where there is the consensus that schools up to grade 10 are treated the same as those that are higher level. If I can find or be shown that the unreferenced claim in the article that it does in fact go up to grade 10 can be sourced to an RS -- I see that two editors now have indicated that that is the case, but I can't find rs support for it myself in the article or on google, though it is likely my search is not as capable as that of others. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:25, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per TeririersFan. In most countries, the legal school leaving age is around 16, or a rough equivalent of US grade 10. This would include collèges in the French education system, for example, where junior high and senior high (lycée) are completely separate institutions, and secondary or comprehensive schools in the UK where sixth form colleges are also often separate. In developing countries, grades 11/12 are often only available to students within reach of large schools in big cities. What we don't generally include in these criteria are 'middle' schools where students are required to continue to the third tier before they are allowed to leave. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:16, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It does not educate beyond grade 10, so is more of a middle school, than a high school, thus failing to gain the blanket assumption of notability typically granted high schools. No sources have been presented to show it satisfies WP:N or WP:ORG, and Wikipedia is WP:NOT not a directory of every organization, business, or school which has ever existed. It is unreasonable to claim that if in some country people leave school after 10th grade) or 8th grade, or 5th grade) that that education pattern automatically makes their highest level of schooling notable for all such schools. Each such lesser school should be held strictly to satisfaction of WP:ORG, the applicable notability standard. Sources to satisfy it can usually be found with moderate effort for high schools, which get coverage in newspapers over a wider area. Edison (talk) 18:30, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What country's Ministry of Education classifies its school-leaver-age secondary schools as 'more of a middle school'? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:37, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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