Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amb Prayer Pemu

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:30, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amb Prayer Pemu

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Subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. It is sourced entirely to press statements. A BEFORE search brings up more press statements. Princess of Ara 20:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Princess of Ara 20:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Princess of Ara 20:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : I have read both the WP:GNG and the WP:NPOL most especially. There’s no default reason why article should be deleted because the subject passes all. WP:NPOL never said anything about press statement meanwhile as a politician things like that are expected and they are even said on notable reliable sources and also he is the special assistance to the Delta State Governor Ifeanyi Okowa but that doesn’t guarantee him notable according to WP:NPOL last statement but he passes all in WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. I was unable to write more because that’s all I know about him. --Gabriel601 (talk) 22:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You may have read the policy pages like you claim but I don’t think you understand them because WP:GNG says a subject is considered notable if they have had significant coverage in multiple reliable sources which are independent of the subject. Press statements are neither independent nor reliable and cannot be used to assert notability. Also, NPOL requires an elected statewide office. Being Okowa’s aide is not a claim to WP:NPOL. I encourage you to read the policy pages again for better understanding. Lastly, Wikipedia is not a repository of stuff you know about a subject but about what is documented in reliable sources. I think you should see this for better understanding. Regards
Princess of Ara 21:23, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

“Press statements are neither independent nor reliable and cannot be used to assert notability.” No such statement was said at WP:GNG. Secondly I’m not a newcomer as you referred me for a better understanding. Have been here 5 years but not active, you have been here 10 months with nice articles created which is nice. Compliments to your contribution and happy Sunday. I might not be responding to your next reply due to my offline activities, I leave this section to other contributors --Gabriel601 (talk) 11:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Wikipedia is very clear about her requirements for a notable politician. You should be elected into an office, not appointment. To be a notable entrepreneur, my interpretation of the standard is even higher. I can't see any evidence that demonstrate the subject passes any of both, which implies failing WP:GNG.HandsomeBoy (talk) 13:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Noticed the subject has a statewide appointment, which can be interpreted as meeting one of the criteria for NPOL. However, in practice, we don't automatically deem special assistants to governors in all countries as automatically notable, Wikipedia will be a mess if that was the case as most statewide special assistants have little or no reliable sources covering them (as the case in Nigeria). If you can establish that "Office of Special Assistant, Information, Culture and Tourism to Delta State Government" is a consistent and reputable office, I might change my !vote.HandsomeBoy (talk) 13:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @HandsomeBoy, there has been a consensus at AfD that state commissioners (who have a more established office) do not meet NPOL so their notability is assessed by GNG. I think the same should apply to special assistants. Princess of Ara 15:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That is a logical consensus that I definitely support when contextualized. HandsomeBoy (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:45, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Subject is notable from Google search but needs enough improvement such as citations.--Tcgchv (talk) 15:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tcgchv, subjects are only notable by evidence of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources and not by google hits. Princess of Ara 17:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete! Nothing looks notable here or satisfies Wikipedia's GNG or NPOL criteria, the only position he holds is the "Special Assistant" and this is a common appointment in Nigeria, many governors have hundreds of them. Governor DanKwanbo's 229 Special Assistants, Special Advisers Taraba State, Governor Ben Ayade's Special Advisers, Obaseki Appoints 72 other aides. User:Em-mustapha ^talk 03:04, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. Suonii180 (talk) 16:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per Em-mustapha. MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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