Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamallu
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. W.marsh 18:51, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a foreign dictionary. Hamallu, is a term in Maltese, which describes people of a low class status etc. It does not mean it should have place on wikipedia!! It is nothing but a foreign word. Maltesedog 19:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is NOT a dictionary --SandyDancer 20:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Synonyms in various languages are available on the English Wikipedia. Please see Chav. Drew88 07:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment not a true comparison - the "Chav" article documents what many consider to have been a real social phenomenon in the UK, in terms of the explosion of use of the term and way it came to represent a class divided society. This article, however, is simply a definition of a slang word, and moreover reads like an offensive joke, does not assert its importance in any way, and represents the sole work of the author. Again, delete. --SandyDancer 10:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Click on my link above. There's a list of foreign synonyms. Why shouldn't we have the Maltese one? Drew88 13:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Hamallu refers to a large group of people in a country. The article is not serving necessarily as a glossary but details the lifestyle of these people. It is certainly neither a joke nor an offense. Keep as per drew88. -- Oh goddess 13:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Now that really IS embarrassingly thinly veiled sock puppetry. "Oh goddess" is an account created today purely to vote to keep this page. The use of the term "the lifestyle of these people" is a bit worrying - the page creator seems to think that this term actually does refer to a clearly delineated section of society. We REALLY need to get rid of this article. It is nonsense, it isn't encyclopedic, and moreover it is actually quite offensive. --SandyDancer 14:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Please click here. Since when is offensive material not allowed on wikipedia? Who decides what's offensive and what is not? Drew88 14:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment to be fair I have to concede you are right about that. Doesn't stop the article being a pointless, irrelevant, badly written attempt to poke fun at a group of people that may or may not exist that you don't like. --SandyDancer 14:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Please don't make it obvious that you're not Maltese. Are you aware that the definition of the word "hamallu" is found in all Maltese dictionaries? Are you aware that the term "hamallu" has been around for ages, as opposed to the term "chav" which was only included in some English dictionaries last year? I will concede that the article needs to be re-written, but there's no point in deleting it. Drew88 14:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment We have no evidence of notability or relevance - you need to assert this, and back it up, in the article itself if it isn't simply to be deleted. As currently written, your article tells us simply that there's a slang word for a certain type of young man in Malta. Nothing worth knowing. Put it in wikidictionary maybe? --SandyDancer 15:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Please don't make it obvious that you're not Maltese. Are you aware that the definition of the word "hamallu" is found in all Maltese dictionaries? Are you aware that the term "hamallu" has been around for ages, as opposed to the term "chav" which was only included in some English dictionaries last year? I will concede that the article needs to be re-written, but there's no point in deleting it. Drew88 14:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment to be fair I have to concede you are right about that. Doesn't stop the article being a pointless, irrelevant, badly written attempt to poke fun at a group of people that may or may not exist that you don't like. --SandyDancer 14:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Please click here. Since when is offensive material not allowed on wikipedia? Who decides what's offensive and what is not? Drew88 14:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Now that really IS embarrassingly thinly veiled sock puppetry. "Oh goddess" is an account created today purely to vote to keep this page. The use of the term "the lifestyle of these people" is a bit worrying - the page creator seems to think that this term actually does refer to a clearly delineated section of society. We REALLY need to get rid of this article. It is nonsense, it isn't encyclopedic, and moreover it is actually quite offensive. --SandyDancer 14:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and epecially not a Maltese dictionary. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Why is it that terms like Coatto, Naco and Sukeban are allowed then? Drew88 15:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Dunno. Try listing them for deletion and see what happens. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Maybe it should be translated into Maltese and placed into the Maltese wiki Maltesedog 08:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.