Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Occupy Syracuse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Occupy movement protest locations in the United States. v/r - T P 16:33, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Occupy Syracuse

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Only locally notable... Mythpage88 (talk) 09:17, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also as nominator I'd support a redirect. Mythpage88 (talk) 00:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'm googling the group and it looks like even though this is a new branching off of OWS, there's a lot of coverage. It might be a little too soon to delete, but then I don't want to crystal ball too much in either direction. I'm going to try to add more sources to the article to help flesh it out. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]
The thing I'm mainly concerned about is that the only significant coverage I can find is purely local. Mythpage88 (talk) 09:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know... that's a big sticking point so far. Everything I've found has ended up being local coverage, so I think that you're right in that it's only locally notable. It might be worth having the original article's creator userfy or incubate it until/if the point comes where it got beyond local coverage.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:55, 3 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:28, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:28, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There is no requirement that a group should have international or national or even regional scope. What we are concerned about is whether an article topic is encyclopedia-worthy and whether the information on that topic is verifiable through it's substantial coverage in multiple, independent, published sources. For some reason, 100 articles on various "Occupy" movements drives some people up the wall and we wind up haggling over these things endlessly, winding up in "No Consensus" outcomes. It would be swell if these were all combined into various state-level articles — but it would also be swell if articles on garage bands and TV shows were grouped up, too, by the same way of thinking. Ultimately, Wikipedia is not paper and there is no objective reason why the Occupy pieces should not exist as free-standing pieces until such time that events come to a close, books and scholarly articles start to appear, and we all begin to look at these things in another way. Nothing to be gained from deletion, information would be lost in the process, this a permutation of a historic political movement, bottom line. Carrite (talk) 16:46, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. You've got a point. Most of the Occupy pages that come up for AfD usually end in no consensus and in the process usually have an overly long out debate that can occasionally get a lot of feathers ruffled. It might be worth it to let these ride for a while and just deal with them in January, but then there's no actual policy on this sort of thing and even though 90% of these pages are kept, there are those rare instances where a page needs to be merged to a larger article. It's probably because of those pages that we'll have to keep going through AfD until someone comes up with something for this. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 17:51, 3 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:08, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Occupy movement protest locations in the United States. I'm just not convinced that this particular Occupy Wall Street protest is significant enough to warrant its own article. Master&Expert (Talk) 04:57, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Master&Amp. Like Tokyogirl179 I get tired of every jumped up student cause becoming a rancorous debate on Wikipedia as to how notable some very minor and local cause is. Seriously - 100 protesters on a march, and we have a Wikipedia article about it? I am sure in 100 years time they will thanks us. --Legis (talk - contribs) 03:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're saying you don't want the article because you disapprove of the cause, which is IDONTLIKEIT. DGG ( talk ) 22:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like he has issues with a lack of notability (and lax policy/guideline implementation) rather than him not liking it. Mythpage88 (talk) 06:28, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Occupy movement protest locations in the United States. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 16:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.