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Wellington Meetup 28 August 2021

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  • Date: Saturday 28 August 2021
  • Time: 10:00 am to midday
  • Location: Under COVID Alert Level 4: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WellingtonWikimediaMeetup
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers).

Venue

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Under Alert Level 1 the group meet at the He Matapihi Molesworth Library within the National Library. This is a Wellington City Council pop up public library. It was formerly The National Library net.work space. Drinks are permitted in the library.

Under Alert Level 2 or higher the group meet via video conference call.

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference

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All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

The video conferencing meetup is a replacement for the in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link in the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.


Future Meetups

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This is a monthly event occurring every four weeks, but double check the Wikipedia:Wellington Meetup page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People

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Attending

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Unable to come

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Agenda and Notes from Meeting

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1. Introduction to meet up by organisers (if there are any newbies joining us) You can add your name / user name to the video conferencing software by clicking on your profile. I've changed the agenda around a bit as I'm expecting new members joining us.

2. Progress on Action Points

3. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated - You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Marshelecworking on birds. Has been convincing a bird photographer to release her images and adding gallery images to articles. Creating a page on Wingspan. Needs help to create a map to go into the info box. Also how to do a redirect page. Giantflightlessbirds will help on both points
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect
  • Slowking4 Puttering around in Women in Red and creating indigenous people pages and updating Paralympic results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/206
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/204
  • Ambrosia10 Getting back to New Zealand endemic moths. Getting stubs organised and images imported.
  • Gertrude206 Still working on New Zealand composers. Tired of fixing up pages that haven’t been referenced correctly if at all.
  • Hineahua New editor from the Performing Arts Project. Spending most of last week learning. Has launched second article and getting a feel for things. Started article an article on the Going West festival.
  • Wainuiomartian Playing around and adding text to the Evans Bay page. Wondering when it should be split up. Adding things about the Museum Hotel article but when I went to publish the references dropped out. Also talked about creating an article for living person. Marshelec and Oronsay gave some supportive advice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Biography
  • Pakoire In reporting land for the Wikipedia performing arts project. Looking forward to the project finishing in order to get back to editing. Also looking at WikiSource. Interested in learning more about Rater. Noted that there is a festival where one of the NZ editors became the wikimedian in residence by default. Might be worth investigating further for other festivals
  • Noel - Very new editor with a few sentences in his sand box.
  • Stuartyeates Been involved in the backlog drive which was a success but had technical issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/July_2021_Backlog_Drive
New page patrolling and assigning categories and articles to editors to evaluate. This needs to be done to maintain quality. Also been talking to New Zealand unions about pay equity and he’s been working with them to create a list of new articles and existing articles to be expanded.
  • David Nind Doing Wikisource and working on one of the West Coast books.
  • Oronsay Attended the edit-a-thon last weekend and this went really well. Women in Red are looking at doing a 24hour edit-a-thon and Oronsay fed back to that group about the key positive take outs from the edit-a-thon last weekend and how great it was that you didn’t feel like you were missing out. Talking with a staff member from National Gallery of Australia. Oronsay improved the knowledge of that individual and also introduced her to Wikidata.
  • Einebillion Working on WikiCon Auckland tidy up and meetup pages.


4. Review of questions raised during round table

No further questions

5. Further discussion on choosing a page to get to Featured Article status. 30 minutes

  • Selected page: Kererū - Discussion on whether page is ready to go through the Good Article process. Several editors have had a go at improving the article, as at 22 August there are no citation needed templates on the article, citations have been updated and corrected and copy editing has taken place.

If decision is yes, start the process today. See this page. We should choose the appropriate subtopic (if there is one) and perhaps leave a note to the reviewer that we are a group who meets monthly improving this article to learn more about the featured and good article process. If we decide not to nominate, we should discuss what improvements we think are needed and decide who wants to do what. We should also discuss whether we need to set a date to start the process in order to motivate the group to take the next step. - Ambrosia10 (talk)


Discussion on whether the page is ready to go through the Good Article process. The group are ready to nominate it apart from a final addition by Gertrude206. Once Gertrude206 finishes editing, Ambrosia10 will nominate the article for good article status and document the workflow so the rest of us can benefit.

6. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of

  • Discussion of Wikimania highlights from those who attended sessions. - Ambrosia10 (talk)
Youtube sessions can be found on the Wikipedia Weekly youtube channel as well as the Wikimedia Foundation channel.
  • Museums Aotearoa project to update information about museums and galleries of New Zealand. They have offered to openly license and share both data and images for the Wiki community to use to update wikidata entries and update and / or create Wikipedia stub pages. I have committed to doing the piece of work around Wikidata but would welcome help regarding updating and creating Wikipedia pages. Einebillion (talk) 23:16, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be very happy to help - in Wikidata, Wikicommons and Wikipedia. - Ambrosia10 (talk)
Stuartyeates offered to look at the data as has had experience with bulk uploading multiple stub articles
David Nind also offered to help with the project.


7. Demonstration of a tool

  • A new Wikidata tool to help with queries. - Ambrosia10 (talk)
  • Demonstration of the rater workflow, entering Special:NewPages into the Wikipedia searchbox
There is a second rater tool see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evad37/rater

8. General discussion

General discussion on new editors and new articles. How can new editors in a edit-a-thon setting be encouraged to upload stubs to the main area. There are a number of methods and some of them are vulnerable to issues. Senior editors can transfer pages from the new editor's sandbox to the main platform. Cutting and pasting causes issues.

Outcomes

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Next meeting and Meetup timetables

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  • 25 September , same time, same place