Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chandet Sorpantrey

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The result was speedy keep. Per WP:SKCRIT#1. The nominator has withdrawn the nomination and no one other than the nominator recommends that the page be deleted or redirected. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:06, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chandet Sorpantrey

"Withdrawn by nominator - Reason, as limited info on internet in Thai source in the 90s but some secondary source was found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CASSIOPEIA (talk • contribs) 09:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Fighter has only one professional fight in 2004 and lost. - see [1] . Fails WP:NMMA. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 14:24, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Not as a MMA fighter but as a kickboxer and Lumpinee Stadium champion he meets WP:KICK.PRehse (talk) 15:45, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sourcing is weak, but there's no doubt he meets WP:NKICK several times over. I believe that someone who reads Thai and had access to a Thai newspaper database could easily find plenty of coverage of him. Papaursa (talk) 15:28, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have written to the Wiki Thai help desk to seek Thai source for Sorpantrey's victory in the Lumpini championship title bout. Hope to have a quick reply on this. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 16:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Digging through newspaper archives would be non-trivial, but I did find some clippings posted on Facebook. There's him defending his title against Sangtiennoi Sor Rungroj in a fight dated 25 March 1994,[2][3] and a profile piece from a newspaper.[4] Not sure what's the cup he's winning in this photo.[5] --Paul_012 (talk) 15:21, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Paul 012: Thank you for answering my request on your talk page and provide the info above. I have checked with Wiki Thai but received no reply. I could find his K-1 - Premium 2004 Dynamite record in [6] and [7] but could not find his win record in Lumpini. Since you know Thai (presumably you are Thai) with your advice I also check on the correct name in Thai Chandet Sor Prantalay instead of Chandet Sorpantrey, and unfortunately I still could not find any article on him wining the Lumpini championship besides your info provided above. I wonder do you know who did he fight against on the championship match and may be we could find some video clip announced his wining at the end of the fight. Thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 19:11, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since I don't speak Thai, my search capabilities are limited. However, I did find his Lumpinee title listed at a K-1 bio page [8] and his Lumpinee and WBC titles were mentioned in an MMA fight intro at [9]. I found the Lumpinee claim repeated on a number of sites, but that doesn't mean it's true. However, it's difficult to find good English sources on Muay Thai and Lumpinee champions, especially for fights before or near the start of the internet. Right now I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'll admit I couldn't find a comprehensive list of Lumpinee or WBC Muay Thai champions. Papaursa (talk) 01:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do understand info online in 90s in Thailand might hard to come by and promoters might not have uploaded to internet site as (1) there is no one kickboxing fighter database in the internet capture majority of the events as it is not like in boxing we have Boxrec and in MMA we have Sherdog and Tapology (2) Records/fight announced from promoters in Thailand occasionally is not true as they had announced (even with huge print media at the stadium) as some fighters actually were not scheduled to fight at that night (just for publicity/marketing purposes - I say this as I learnt Muay Thai in Bangkok when I lived in BKK 10 years ago and know some fighters there) and (3) we dont read Thai :). I have checked on the net there are some Chandet Sor Prantalay interviews but they are in Thai. With all the links provided by you and Paul, I also would give a benefit of doubt and will withdraw my nomination for deletion and will put the links provided above into the page. Thank you everyone for chip in info, helping out - a good and healthy discussion. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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