Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadeem Shahbaz

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The result was keep. Tone 06:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nadeem Shahbaz

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The article clearly doesn't meet WP:GNG. The sources in the article are simply directory/stats listings, which I believe do not establish notability. Have performed a WP:BEFORE and nothing came up. I've nominated two articles previously which were similar and they have been deleted (here and here). Editors over there cited the WP:CRIN guideline which is being debated itself and for it to change, precedent is needed, clearly those guidelines aren't being accepted and seem to me like they'll never be able to satisfy the GNG. Another argument given by editors on similar pages is given that sources in other languages might exist, I am thoroughly unconvinced by this as none of these sources have materialized and I feel like it's an argument which can be used anywhere; all an editor has to do is claim that sources exist. Please note I am a new editor and this is my understanding after trying my best to read as many guidelines and past discussions as possible, I could have easily made mistake, but I am just trying to be bold. Iitianeditor (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Iitianeditor (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Iitianeditor (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets NCRIC, and the subject is only 27. Mass-nominating articles (at a rate of >=3/min) from one third-world country during a world-wide lockdown is not the way to change notability guidelines. Meets an SNG and I put no stock on the assertion that a search for GNG has been exhausted; it's hard enough to achieve it during normal times and with better-studied subjects in more affluent parts of the world. Usedtobecool ☎️ 09:33, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep played in three first-class matches. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 19:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per above. CreativeNorth (talk) 16:36, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "played matches" only proves existence, not notability. Also, the consensus at this RFC is that "meets SNG" assertions are insufficient arguments at AfD. As noted above, there is also consensus at NSPORT that NCRIC/CRIN is far too permissive with respect to domestic matches played, and match tally is not a reliable indicator (especially when that tally is low). As such, evidence is required (i.e. substantial reliable coverage outside of stats databases) to show that the subject meets GNG/BIO/SPORTBASIC. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 17:04, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passed WP:CRIN, fairly recent FC career too, so likely sources in Pakistan exist for this player. StickyWicket (talk) 19:40, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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