Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radovan Filipović

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The result was keep. There is agreement that this passes WP:NFOOTY. (As a side-note, the article could do with some clearing up for neutrality.) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 10:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Radovan Filipović

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He has not played a professional senior game at club or international level. Article fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 02:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Futsal World Cup participant - not notable? --Postoronniy-13 (talk) 23:41, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Not Sure, but i doubt it.Simione001 (talk) 00:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment According to NFOOTY "FIFA sanctioned senior international match" satisfy the requirement. GNG to be decided though. Albaniafutboll (talk) 02:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thats regarding association football not Futsal.Simione001 (talk) 03:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - But, he is Australian national futsal team captain, with official FIFA futsal tournament appearances. Sorry to say, but I can´t see any higher futsal level than that. FkpCascais (talk) 03:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Correct, and, btw, Futsal is, by definition, simply a form of soccer, governed by FIFA rules as is soccer. The rooles of NFOOTBALL are the same for soccer and futsal. NFOOTY is satisfied fully. Albaniafutboll (talk) 03:33, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Playing in a Futsal world cup is not enough to get an article. If that was the case then every player in the tournament would be eligible. Futsal is a variant of association football, its not association football. He also hasnt played for any professional futsal teams.Simione001 (talk) 04:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        I can´t see any of your logic behind. Who is eligible then to have a futsal player article (in your view) if not a FIFA World Cup player? FkpCascais (talk) 06:57, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Ok, i suggest though that if the article is going to stay it should be improved. Infobox, more links etc.Simione001 (talk) 09:43, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Simione001 (talk) 02:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. 13:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC) — The-Pope (talk) 13:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:28, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the reasoning behind the sport specific guidelines is that it makes the assumption that at the defined level, there will probably be significant coverage in a reliable source, even if it isn't online or findable by google. Australian futsal players are almost certainly going to be only covered by unreliable or trivial brief mentions. To answer the question asked above " Who is eligible then to have a futsal player article (in your view) if not a FIFA World Cup player?" The answer is someone who has had significant coverage in independent reliable sources. That isn't this guy. The-Pope (talk) 11:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Who said that media should be mainstream sports media? We reference medicine related articles with reliable sources on medicine, not with some articles appearing on Huffington Post. In the case of Futsal the best media we should be considering is Futsal related publications, as they are the most reliable. I found a couple of them, and with the diffusion of Futsal there will be more. This guy, along with 5-6 others, is certainly one of the pioneers of the sport in Australia and an inspiration for other generations, certainly a Hall of Famer for the sport in that continent. Albaniafutboll (talk) 14:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I see 2000+ hits in google and I will contribute to satisfy GNG. NFOOTY is satisfied the way the policy is written. Albaniafutboll (talk) 13:04, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I get a few thousand hits when i type my name in google as well. We need specific articles.Simione001 (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I entered some and there are more. All the trick is to eliminate the ones that are copies of Wikipedia. Albaniafutboll (talk) 13:53, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Appearances at the FIFA Futsal World Cup Final should be fine for notability, WP:NSPORT says "Sports figures are presumed notable ... if they: 1. have participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level". The Futsal World Cup Finals are the highest level of their sport so this should pass. Camw (talk) 03:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - passes NFOOTBALL and needs bringing up to GNG. Giant Snowman 09:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.