Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Granadillo

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn, all delete !votes withdrawn. Rlendog (talk) 02:41, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Granadillo

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Non-notable minor leaguer. PRODded, but subsequently DEPRODed with deprodder saying a multi-time All-Star in the lower minor leagues is notable, though nowhere in WP:BASE/N is there any such stipulation. Further, he claims Granadillo played at the highest level of baseball in Spain, but nowhere in the article is that claim made or cited. Alex (talk) 16:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Inactive since 2008, no notable write-ups about him, some recognition at the lower levels of the minors are insufficient to establish notability. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Change to keep based on his international play, not his low minors All-Star nods. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Muboshgu. Spanneraol (talk) 18:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC) Change to keep he did play in Spain, and won the batting title in the Spanish league.[1] Spanneraol (talk) 19:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, playing in Spain is not, in and of itself, notable. People are going way overboard with the "top league in a country" standard. — NY-13021 (talk) 20:27, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He did win the batting title. Spanneraol (talk) 20:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see what difference that makes. If the Spanish League is non-notable, then winning the batting title there is non-notable. — NY-13021 (talk) 00:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe he is saying that even if you do not think that all players from División de Honor de Béisbol are notable, that Granadillo is one of the most notable players in the league, by virtue of his accomplishments there. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 15:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, as per my stated rationale when de-prodding. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 22:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Ehh... MVP of the Appalachian (Rookie-level) and California (High-A) leagues? Those could add to a case, but without anything else of substance, I don't think it meets GNG. As for playing in Spain, BASE/N is only a guideline, and I think their league falls way short of our inclusion criteria. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:46, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See below. In my experience, nearly all players who were All-Stars at A+ or above will end up meeting one or more of the notability criteria. Granadillo is no exception. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 21:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:31, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In case it changes anything for anyone Granadillo was also a starter for the Venezuelan national team for the just-completed 2011 Baseball World Cup, thus satisfying another section of WP:BASE/N. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 21:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like he's going to be part of their team for this year's upcoming Pan American Games, too. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 21:15, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination withdrawn Per his appearance in the World Cup. Alex (talk) 01:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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