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Marjatta Nuoreva moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Marjatta Nuoreva, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. Currently, it has only a single independent, reliable source. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:09, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969:, why did you move the article to draft space? SportsOlympic (talk) 14:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SportsOlympic, because it's been tagged for improvement for over a month, with no further work being done on it. Right now, it has a single, independent source, which is stated above. A search did not turn up enough in-depth sourcing to show notability, but rather than AfD it, I felt it better to give you a further chance to make it acceptable for WP, with enough sourcing to show it meets GNG and VERIFY. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:23, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article had multiple soures. An national encyclopedia entrance of Uppslagsverket Finland and secondary source Helsingin Sanomat. "because it's been tagged for improvement for over a month" is not a valid reason; it's not a policy all the tagged aticles should be moved after a month to the draft space. That's just your method because you don't like it. There are >400.000 articles meeting that creteria. If that is important to you, you should start with the pages tagged over 15 years ago. See Category:Articles needing additional references. I just don't see the need to move the article out of the main space; I added a few sources and moved it back. SportsOlympic (talk) 15:13, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great work

@Victuallers: Awesome you nominated the article for DYK! Thanks :) SportsOlympic (talk) 17:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Judo is not taekwondo

Can you please clean up all you recent Olympic judoka creations? They all have the line " where taekwondo was for women a demonstration sport,", which should be "judo" instead. Fram (talk) 08:05, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fram (talk · contribs) thanks for letting me know, I didn't see it. That is a copy-paste error.. I will change them all immediately. SportsOlympic (talk) 08:10, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Diana Bong

Thank you for your recent creation of Diana Bong. It is good to see people paying attention to wushu. I have added more medals to the infobox and thus I will expand the prose later. I focus mostly on taolu athlete bios, and so if you are willing to work on sanda athletes, that would be a great. Thanks for all of your contributions. Yinglong999 (talk) 04:40, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Yinglong999:, Thanks! Thank you for your message and your works on the wushu practitioners. In the meantime I created some more wushu stubs: Cui Wenjuan, Erika Kojima, Nguyễn Mai Phương, Chai Fong Wei, Susyana Tjhan. Feel free to expand or improve them. In the coming weeks I hope to create some more. I'm focussed on women medalists at the 2008 Beijing Wushu Tournament who meets notability. If more people at the 2008 Beijing Wushu Tournament are notable, let me know :) SportsOlympic (talk) 18:26, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ranjita Jena for deletion

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Nomination of Sylva Åkesson for deletion

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ezhar Cezairli for deletion

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Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Michele Megale for deletion

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tomáš Lom moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Tomáš Lom, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Again tagged for over a month without improvement. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:43, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Monestier moved to draftspace

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Missing Olympians

Hi SO - hope you are well. Just to let you know that the bot is back and running and making sporadic updates to the missing Olympian list. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts:, Ah nice!! Yes! When I have more time I will start continue working on them :D. Thanks for dropping the message! SportsOlympic (talk) 12:23, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a little comment: I think that list is including everyone with a Olympedia ID and everyone with an Olympedia ID have not been competing in the Olympics since they include referees, youth olympians and sports leaders. Just for a little upclearing of that Wikidata ID for Olympedia. Best regards Migrant (talk – contribs) 14:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ileana Rodriguez

On 24 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ileana Rodriguez, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first flag carried in the 2020 Paralympics opening ceremony will be that of the International Paralympic Committee (pictured), with Ileana Rodriguez as the flag-bearer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ileana Rodriguez. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ileana Rodriguez), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Ksenia Ovsyannikova

On 28 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ksenia Ovsyannikova, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Russian wheelchair fencer Ksenia Ovsyannikova toured the United States on a "mission for inclusion" in 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ksenia Ovsyannikova. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ksenia Ovsyannikova), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Macau female wushu practitioners

A tag has been placed on Category:Macau female wushu practitioners indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, SportsOlympic,

As the notice states, "Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. All you have to do to avoid deletion of an empty category is for it not to be empty over the next 7 days. Another editor or admin will remove the speedy tag. Do not remove CSD notices from pages that you have created. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Macau female wushu practitioners

Hi again. I am just explaining to you some of my recent edits. I thought that the category:Macau female wushu practitioners was glitched because I could not find a way to remove category:Wushu practitioners by nationality from it, and so I thought it would be best to move all the female practitioners temporarily into the main category:Macau wushu practitioners then re-create the category without the redundant Wushu practitioners by nationality. While typing this, I just learned what fooian fooers is (I have essentially no experience dealing with category pages), and so I will be removing that from the Macau female one and including that in the main Macau one. Thank you. Yinglong999 (talk) 19:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Evelyn van Leeuwen

On 1 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Evelyn van Leeuwen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Evelyn van Leeuwen won a wheelchair basketball silver medal at the 1996 Paralympics and twenty years later she won a bronze at the 2016 Games? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Evelyn van Leeuwen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Evelyn van Leeuwen), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK nomination of Inger K. Frith

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Nomination of Lucy Robinson (wheelchair basketball) for deletion

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Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:44, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Gabriela Navarro Rodriguez

The article Gabriela Navarro Rodriguez has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence of notability, fails WP:NSPORTS and very few independent sources about her[1][2][3][4]

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WP:STUBSPACING

Hi there. WP:STUBSPACING states: "Leave two blank lines between the first stub template and whatever precedes it." I've been fixing this at articles you've created. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 18:08, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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While I disagree that this belonged in draftspace, it would seriously help if you (SportsOlympic) would drastically improve your referencing (as has been asked before). The reference " "DPG Media Privacy Gate". myprivacy.dpgmedia.be." is nonsense. If it would be clear that this is a newspaper article about the author (one of many, heis truly notable), perhaps new page patrollers would take a different view. The same for articles like Dennis Post: "Gevonden in Delpher - Het vrĳe volk : democratisch-socialistisch dagblad". www.delpher.nl." is not a correct reference. Popke Popkema has equally dreadful referencing. Fram (talk) 07:40, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Marchjuly:, thanks for noticing me. Actually the file should not me deleted but moved to Commons under commons:Template:PD-EU-no author disclosure SportsOlympic (talk) 08:43, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright issues with your article on Karl Käser and your article on Harry Elkes...

I admire your zeal for creating new standalone articles for figures in sports but in your articles on Mr Käser and Mr. Elkes I recognized some of my editorial contributions from List of racing cyclists and pacemakers with a cycling-related death that were re-used without attribution, specifically the following:
Karl Käser

Note 5 from the List appears word for word as Note 1 in Käser:

The reference Sport-Album der Rad-Welt was an annual compendium of the sports-newspaper Rad-Welt or "Bike World". Rad-Welt started publication in 1895 and ceased publication in 1933. It was published six days a week during the summer season and twice a week from October until March. The annual Sport-Album contained photographs that the daily newspaper could not because of publication time-constraints. The Sport-Album published a column, "Die Toten der Rennbahn" (or "The Dead of the Racetrack") that consisted of obituaries for dead cyclists.

Note 6 from the List appears word for word as Note 2 in Käser.

Some sources spell Käser's name as "Carl Kaeser" – see "Trove"/The Sydney Mail reference.

Also, the following paragraph from the List:

Was killed during a paced race between himself and Thaddeus Robl at the Plauen track in Saxony, Germany. Was utilizing a 24-inch tire on a 22-inch wheel and in the moments before his fatal accident Käser had just pushed back his safety helmet.

was too-closely paraphrased in the Käser article:

He died as a result of a fall during a paced race between himself and Thaddeus Robl at the Plauen track in Saxony, Germany in August 1904. He was utilizing a 24-inch tire on a 22-inch wheel and in the moments before his fatal accident Käser had just pushed back his safety helmet.

Content from the List was also re-used without attribution in Harry Elkes:

The Elkes entry in the List reads as follows:

Died in an accident at Charles River Track in Cambridge, Massachusetts.[24][25][26] Held the world record for "paced-cycle racing" during most of his career and just prior to his fatal accident had achieved a new 5 Miles World Record (going that distance in 6 minutes, 12 1/5 seconds)[24] as well as achieving world's records for 10 and 15 miles.[27] Major Taylor in his autobiography called Elkes "one of the greatest middle-distance riders that ever pedalled a bicycle."

with the html in the List as follows - so the sourcing can be clearly seen:

Died in an accident at Charles River Track in Cambridge, Massachusetts.<ref name = "Death">{{Cite news|date=May 31, 1903|title=Harry Elkes Killed in Bicycle Race|periodical=[[The New York Times]]|location=New York|page=1|url=https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1903/05/31/102003587.pdf|access-date=August 4, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|publication-date= June 6, 1903|title= News of the Week...Elkes Killed in Cycle Race|periodical= The Summary|location= New York State Reformatory at Elmira|volume= XXXI|issue= 23|page= 3|url= https://books.google.com/books?id=OgFLAAAAYAAJ&q=Elkes&pg=PR39|access-date= August 4, 2010|year= 1903|archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20170203111411/https://books.google.com/books?id=OgFLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PR39#v=onepage&q=Elkes&f=false|archive-date= February 3, 2017}}</ref><ref name="Mangan, p. 127">Mangan, p.127</ref> Held the world record for "paced-cycle racing" during most of his career and just prior to his fatal accident had achieved a new 5 Miles World Record (going that distance in 6 minutes, 12 1/5 seconds)<ref name = "Death"/> as well as achieving world's records for 10 and 15 miles.<ref>{{cite news |title=Harry Elkes Killed – Terrible Accident to Bicyclists at Cambridge, Mass. |url=https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19030531.2.119&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1 |newspaper=Los Angeles Herald |volume=30 |issue= 236 |access-date=August 14, 2019 |date=May 31, 1903|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190907025520/https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19030531.2.119&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1|archive-date=September 7, 2019}}</ref> [[Major Taylor]] in his autobiography called Elkes "one of the greatest middle-distance riders that ever pedalled a bicycle."<ref>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=6l1LAAAAYAAJ&q=Harry+Elkes|title=The fastest bicycle rider in the world: the story of a colored boy's indomitable courage and success against great odds|author1=Major Taylor|author2=Marshall W. Taylor|name-list-style=amp|publisher=Books for Libraries Press, Wormley Publishing Company|year=1928|access-date=May 15, 2011|isbn=978-0-8369-8910-6|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170211213959/https://books.google.com/books?id=6l1LAAAAYAAJ&q=Harry+Elkes|archive-date=February 11, 2017}}</ref>

The Elkes article reads as follows:

Elkes held the world record for "paced-cycle racing" during most of his career and just prior to his fatal accident had achieved a new 5 Miles World Record (going that distance in 6 minutes, 12 1/5 seconds)[2] as well as achieving world's records for 10 and 15 miles.[3] Major Taylor called Elkes in his autobiography "one of the greatest middle-distance riders that ever pedalled a bicycle."[4]

With the Elkes article html/Wikicode as follows:

Elkes held the world record for "paced-cycle racing" during most of his career and just prior to his fatal accident had achieved a new 5 Miles World Record (going that distance in 6 minutes, 12 1/5 seconds)<ref name = "Death"/> as well as achieving world's records for 10 and 15 miles.<ref>{{cite news |title=Harry Elkes Killed – Terrible Accident to Bicyclists at Cambridge, Mass. |url=https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19030531.2.119&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1 |newspaper=Los Angeles Herald |volume=30 |issue= 236 |access-date=August 14, 2019 |date=May 31, 1903|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190907025520/https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19030531.2.119&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1|archive-date=September 7, 2019}}</ref> [[Major Taylor]] called Elkes in his autobiography "one of the greatest middle-distance riders that ever pedalled a bicycle."<ref>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=6l1LAAAAYAAJ&q=Harry+Elkes|title=The fastest bicycle rider in the world: the story of a colored boy's indomitable courage and success against great odds|author1=Major Taylor|author2=Marshall W. Taylor|name-list-style=amp|publisher=Books for Libraries Press, Wormley Publishing Company|year=1928|access-date=May 15, 2011|isbn=978-0-8369-8910-6|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170211213959/https://books.google.com/books?id=6l1LAAAAYAAJ&q=Harry+Elkes|archive-date=February 11, 2017}}</ref>

and

Elkes died in an cycling accident at Charles River Track in [[Cambridge, Massachusetts]], aged 25.<ref name = "Death">{{Cite news|date=May 31, 1903|title=Harry Elkes Killed in Bicycle Race|periodical=[[The New York Times]]|location=New York|page=1|url=https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1903/05/31/102003587.pdf|access-date=August 4, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|publication-date= June 6, 1903|title= News of the Week...Elkes Killed in Cycle Race|periodical= The Summary|location= New York State Reformatory at Elmira|volume= XXXI|issue= 23|page= 3|url= https://books.google.com/books?id=OgFLAAAAYAAJ&q=Elkes&pg=PR39|access-date= August 4, 2010|year= 1903|archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20170203111411/https://books.google.com/books?id=OgFLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PR39#v=onepage&q=Elkes&f=false|archive-date= February 3, 2017}}</ref><ref name="Mangan, p. 127">Mangan, p.127</ref><ref name=auto />

Paragraphs, sentences, phrases, sources, access-dates within sources, were all repeated from the List to these 2 articles... When you re-use other Wikipedia editors' work anywhere their copyright must be preserved, according to the CC-BY-SA licensing, which is explained at Attribution is required for copyright especially the sentence Both of these licenses allow reuse and modification, but reserve the right to attribution. To my mind this is especially true working within Wikipedia where we are all colleagues, working together to create this ongoing online encyclopedia. I am asking for editorial contributions in the List that were re-used in the Käser article and in the Elkes article to be acknowledged in those articles. Take a look at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia specifically the Repairing insufficient attribution section on how to adjust/fix these copyright issues. Shearonink (talk) 05:40, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SportsOylympic: Your most recent edits to Talk:Harry Elkes (here) and to Talk:Karl Käser (here) are a start but they seem insufficient according to Wikipedia rules & policies.

You need to do the following:

Refer to Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Repairing insufficient attribution. Follow those instructions, specifically the quoted sentence below that starts with For such purposes.... You need to use a "Dummy edit" on the articles themselves and put the attribution within that Dummy edit's edit summary:

For such purposes, you may use an edit summary like NOTE: The previous edit as of 22:31, October 14, 2015‎, copied content from the Wikipedia page at (Exact name of page copied from); see its history for attribution. Suggested edit summaries for various repair contexts are provided at Help:Dummy edit].

So, at Help:Dummy_edit, for instructions refer to the section on that page that starts with

Repairing insufficient or absent copyright attribution under Wikipedia's free copyright licenses (CC BY-SA 3.0 and in some cases the GFDL as well) – that is, for content copied and pasted from a compatibly-licensed source, but without an edit summary that both: i) stated the copying taking place; and ii) provided a hyperlink to the source of that copying.

Along with the dummy edit/edit summary you can additionally use Template:Copied on the two articles' talk pages. Shearonink (talk) 13:07, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jillert Anema moved to draftspace

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Admin incident noticeboard

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Problematic referencing

Some of your references are problematic, here are some examples from Gerard van Beek:

Reference 2/3/4 are three separate references that look like they are all the same since you have given them all the same title, which is the name of the newspaper. Also, they are incomplete (no date, no article title, no page number, etc.).
The cite for Ref 6 is also incomplete - it lacks the date and the title of the article, a reader won't know where to look on the page to verify the information.
Ref 5 uses a long & confusing bare URL as the reference - no title to the article, no clear date, the newspaper isn't named. Bare URLs are problematic because they can be prone to WP:Linkrot.

Cited references need to be as complete as Wikipedia editors can make them. The reason complete citations are important is Wikipedia:Verifiability, a Wikipedia policy which states in a nutshell:

Readers must be able to check that any of the information within Wikipedia articles is not just made up. This means all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources. Additionally, quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by inline citations.

Please fix the referencing issues with Gerard van Beek. Shearonink (talk) 03:01, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your changes at Gerard van Beek, that's better, but even though #5 now has a "title" it is still a bare URL. See how different it looks when a reader clicks on it as opposed to #6? #5 is a looooooooong, confusing web address that tells the reader nothing - for verifiability purposes the ref needs the newspaper listed out & the date, etc. Take a look at the Template: cite web - and see how much of its parameters you can fill out date/access-date/article title/newspaper and so on. Shearonink (talk) 16:16, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of racing cyclists and pacemakers with a cycling-related death & Verberkt entry

Please don't insert that entry back into the List. Something is wrong with the coding, I don't know what exactly, but the entry is not showing up in the List itself, it's not visible to readers. I cannot get to it today, will try to figure out what's wrong and get it fixed within the next few days. Shearonink (talk) 15:57, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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References in languages other than English

I've noticed that the many of the sources you cite in your articles are in a language other than English. For verifiability purposes it's a good editorial practice/commonly-accepted norm to use the language parameter in the cite web/cite book/citations so that readers will know the source is written in Dutch or German or whatever. If you need to see some examples take a look at the Cite web page in the Foreign language and translated title section and the language sub-section of Template:Cite web#Title. Thanks - Shearonink (talk) 18:42, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A reminder that when you use foreign language sources to maybe utilize the language parameter in the cite web/book/whatever. It makes everything perfectly plain to our worldwide customers, Wikipedia's readers. Shearonink (talk) 14:08, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks to our collaboration I have been reminded myself to use the language parameter! So, thank you. Shearonink (talk) 14:32, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edit summary at List of racing cyclists and pacemakers with a cycling-related death

This edit summary states that the Interlanguage link "Ill" template should be used. Policy/guideline for that statement? Keeping in mind H:FOREIGNLINK it is my understanding that the previous version of [[:de:Ernst Feja|Ernst Feja]] is not incorrect but perhaps I'm wrong, always willing to learn. Would appreciate an answer here thanks. Shearonink (talk) 22:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I really want to know if there is a policy/guideline reason for using the ILL template over the other language template. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 13:37, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Shearonink:, yes I need to reply a bit on my talk page :). I had a discussion long time ago, but I can’t find it anymore. But there was said by multiple users that a link like how it was not should be used. It looks like the English Wikipedia agrees with the foreign wiki and doesn’t want/need an article at the English Wikipedia. Secondly it hides a red link, so people are not invited to start creating an article. So when liking to a foreign Inwas asked to use the ill template; or to don’t link to a foreign wiki. SportsOlympic (talk) 13:41, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- It doesn’t help, but also see h:FOREIGNLINK. SportsOlympic (talk) 13:48, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know, the Foreignlink that I mentioned in the OP of this thread shows both of the templates under discussion and doesn't give either one preference over the other. It's ok that you like the ILL Template, but in future edit summaries it would be better/less confusing if you simply said you preferred it rather than the "should". Using the verb form of "should" implies the previous version was wrong somehow and that is not the case...that's all I'm trying to say here. Shearonink (talk) 14:08, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Thanks for your reply. Ok, so it's not a WP policy/guideline then, it's a personal preference, that's fine...but to say "should" implies there's a rule/policy/guideline that says something should be a certain way. I mean, if the other language template shouldn't be used then it would be deprecated and/or wouldn't exist anymore. The point of both templates is to show readers that an article exists somewhere in a wikipedia even if it doesn't exist in the present wikipedia being read at the time. Not all articles in one language wiki or another deserves an article everywhere, not every cyclist or sports figure or person is notable enough to get a wiki-article everywhere, people can be notable locally but not globally. Shearonink (talk) 14:08, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was something that I was told to do; that’s why I said “should”. You are talking about a distinction between notable locally and notably globally. That’s a mistake I hear too often at AfD and that is for sure not the English Wikipedia coverage. It about GNG, secondary coverage without a difference between local or national sources. SportsOlympic (talk) 16:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Van Ginkel, hou toch eens op, man. En sinds wanneer ligt Berlijn in Belgie? Drmies (talk) 04:43, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

Admin, this request should be move to the Administrators' noticeboard. Thanks I regret that I have misused another Wikipedia account. I regret that I have made with copy-paste editing errors even ending in a severe BLP violation. Before editors decide whether or not I can bring added value to Wikipedia and I deserve a new chance, I will summarize my Wikipedia story and reasoning how it came I made such big mistakes. Apart from that I write things that I have done and I think (almost) nobody knows. I will try to show that even while I made unforgivable mistakes, my objective is to improve Wikipedia. Most of you won’t know that creating the stubs was only a part of the work I have done. Even while it’s a summary I’m aware of the lengthiness of the text (but so were my contributions). But I feel obliged to write this, because I think it is an extensive user case where some background is helpfull.

Original account

Start with women’s cycling

I started editing Wikipedia with pages related to women’s road cycling. As there was not much coverage about women’s cycling, I started building a structure for women’s road cycling. What I mean with that, at the time, there were almost no pages of single women’s races (but many about men’s). The page 2013 in road cycling was only about men (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013_in_men%27s_road_cycling&type=revision&diff=550846080&oldid=547995186 ) I redirect it to 2013 in men’s road cycling and created the page 2013 in women's road cycling. I did that also for other important road cycling pages. I created pages back from 2004 to 2014 of:

2013 in women's road cycling see them all in Category:Women's road cycling by year
List of 2012 UCI Women's Teams and riders, see them all in Category:Lists of UCI Women's Teams
2012 Team Specialized–lululemon season, see them all in the subcategories of Category:UCI Women's Teams seasons And of course I created or edited all the appropriate Category:Cycling navigational boxes in the way that women’s road cycling was fully incorporated at the English Wikipedia. I started creating single women’s races of the World Cup races, like 2013 Tour of Flanders for Women see all the 2013 pages at [[[:Category:2013 UCI Women's Road World Cup]] and besides of them I started creating other international cycling races, like the 2013 Ladies Tour of Qatar. Soon after creating the women specific pages (including red links) I noticed that many other editors started creating pages of individual races and women cyclists. The few hundred articles I created until then of the women’s races took me on average 4,5 hours per page to create.

Stub creations

At the time I also started creating dozens of women’s cyclists and edited existing pages, including to GA class and to DYK on the main page. I encountered that most of the cyclists started as a stub and were all expanded along the way. Initially it took me over 30 minutes per cyclist to create the page: to find the sources and to type manually all the templates in the appropriate format and create appropriate cats, etc. As I became more familiar with creating stubs of female cyclists, it took me 15 minutes per stub. After having created about a 50 pages of cyclists I found out many more notable female cyclists were missing. The work was supported by the Cycling Wikiproject. I was triggered by a media article that the amount of new created Wikipedia pages were decreasing. As I had encountered that creating a decent Wikipedia page, even if it’s a stub, takes a lot of time and hazzle I thougt I could jump in here, also because creating stubs was supported at the time by “Stubs are welcome” Wikipedia policy (I think it doesn’t exist anymore). I started creating pages of mayor sportsperson in other fields. Like volleyball players who competed at the Olympic Games and World Championships. I encountered that it was not even easy to find the reliable data of the players. The creation of players was supported by members of the Volleyball wikiproject and asked for more stubs (example: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Volleyball/Archive 2# Stubs are welcome. After having created a manual way to semi-automated create the infobox, it took me about 5 minutes per stub. I also started in other fields (football, gymnastics and weightlifting). After creating a stub, I expanded the stubs with additional information of the person from other Wikipedia pages (via de “What links here” tool). As stated in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, it is allowed to copy-paste content from other pages. It was still a lot of manual work finding the data; and semi-automated creating articles; creating on average 2 redirects per page; creating categories were needed, linking to other language articles etc. Although, I was able to create sometimes over a 100 articles new articles per day. Because I entered much of the data manually, as is like with all manual things, there were some errors. Sometimes a wrong weight of the player, wrong date of birth or even a wrong reference link. Sometimes I observed the error myself and changed it, or I was told to have made some errors. I continued working on it, because I got positive feedback. And in February a discussion about my work was going on at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red/Archive 8#New women's biographies: 98% on sports (and later also at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red/Archive 18#Are the stubs I made appriciated?). Looking back, I had too much priority on quantity rather than quality. From 2016 some editors started to get annoyed by the stubs I created. I was taken to ANI after making an unforgivable mistake of me: I copy-paste information about a neutralized footballer, what turned out to be a hoax. I literally copied sentences and references from the original hoax pages. I checked the reference if some errors pop-up while opening the pages, but I didn’t do an actual fact check. (sidenote: Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia is still not covering this problem. I think it would be good to add WP:NPF content to the Copying within Wikipedia policy like: “Repeating a defamatory claim is actionable in many jurisdictions. Material that may adversely affect a person's reputation should be treated with special care”.) When asked, I also made a list of stubs containing information that could clearly be damaging to the subject. User:Sander.v.Ginkel/articles#Articles containing information that could clearly be damaging to the subject. These are all doping allegations. I got these allegations from Wikipedia pages like List of doping cases in sport (R). I copied the content from the page into the article of the subject; including the reference. Several references became, at the time, 404-errors. I added sometimes extra references. I was blamed for BLP issues and adding not highest reliable sources. (what still is strange, for instance Matthew Zammit was removed on 24 January 2017, but the same content with the same (404-error) reference at the main doping page where it was not removed. The reference was eventually rescued by a bot see here.) Because of that, all my BLP articles were taken to draft space for six months after they were deleted. As I say all my 10.000s articles getting deleted I started working like “a drawning man will clutch at a straw”; with a sockpuppet account. For instance I started moving back these drafts to main space. Apart from that I have also misused the account in deletion discussions. How silly you can be… yes. Eventually when it was noticed in 2018, I was blocked forever.

SportsOlympic

With the consensus and the mistakes I had made, I thought I would never be able to get my account back. A few years later, I opened a new account and started writing decent articles. I thought it wouldn't be noticed. Later I had the intention to clarify who

Female speed skaters

I started creating articles of female speed skaters. From old books and later from newspaper articles I started creating articles of the 19th century and 20th century Dutch female speed skaters. I added image to (almost) all of the pages. See the few remaining blue links at Template:Kortebaan speed skaters (women), or if you have access to it to the content of the deleted red links. Houkje Gerrits Bouma was in the DYK on the main page. As it’s not easy find content of these names because they are almost all from offline sources, but they have importance as they were the pioneers of the Dutch speed skating history. Ice skating was in the Netherlands one of the few (if not the only) sports were female had a huge amount of coverage in the newspapers on a daily basis. I started with creating articles about female speed skaters who competed at the early Winter Olympics like Elsie Muller-McLave, Hattie Donaldson-Briggs and Florence Hurd. I started getting used to find information in old newspaper databases that can't be found via google. As an example it was nice to find biographic information about the Dutch-French speed skater Tonny Monari in Dutch newspapers. I also enjoyed to write about one of the oldest speed skaters Trijntje Pieters Westra (was in the DYK on the Wikipedia main page) and Trijntje Reidinga; but also about unknown speed skaters like Houkje Gerrits Bouma, Sytske Spijkstra and Baukje de Boer-Veenstra (including uploading images of them). I noticed that a wide history of women's speed skating was missing on Wikipedia, after I found a hardcopy of the 1930s book Gedenkschrift bij het 50-jarig bestaan van den Frieschen IJsbond 1886-1936, alsmede iets over hardrijders en hardrijdsters in vroeger en later jaren. I started creating articles of all the women that were described in the book. As the book was published in 1936 I started looking in other books for more recent female speed skaters. With success after finding the book Vrouwen in de Hardrijdersbaan by D.M van der Woude. In the meanwhile, I was getting more and more experienced in finding old information in Dutch newspapers (not findable via Google). Besides of that Wikidata I found many speed skaters with an entry at another Wiki. I saw for instance the entry fy:Annie van der Meer and was able to find a lot more information about her creating Annie van der Meer. The result is that I created almost a full history of women's speed skating in the Netherlands. Besides of the kortebaan articles see Template:Kortebaan speed skaters (women) I also created a full history of the female long track speed skaters, like Zofia Nehringowa and Elly Taconis. I wasn’t finished with the list. Besides of that I would like to write speed skating history of other countries. I found sources for the American speed skaters of the early 1900s.

Olympic and Paralympic people

During the 2020 Summer Olympics and 2020 Summer Paralympics I was actively involved in the WIR focus Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/204. I started with creating lists of red links, that became Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Olympics and Paralympics. I created many articles on Wushu and Taekwondo practitioners who competed at the Olympics as a demonstration sport, I also created many articles on tennis players who played in the early 20th century. I started translating some Dutch Olympics sportspeople like Anneke le Coultre-Foest, Anneke van Zanen-Nieberg and Annemiek van den Boogaart-Dagelet. Another user created stubs of softball players, and I liked to dig into the newspapers and expanding them; for instance Madelon Beek and Petra Beek. I also created pages on many Paralympic medalists, most to start-class articles. Ileana Rodriguez, Ksenia Ovsyannikova and Evelyn van Leeuwen were on the DYK section on the main page of Wikipedia. Other pages for example the the (now) red links at Wheelchair basketball at the 2020 Summer Paralympics – Women's team rosters. I found several important women, who had received an Olympic order who didnt't have an article on the English Wikipedia, like Inger K. Frith.

Research on Paralympic athlete at the first Paralympics

I became more interested in the older Paralympic Games. Of the early Paralympics, only the surnames of most athletes were known. I took the challenge to do some historic work and find the complete names! It was not possible to find this information via Google. I started searching in the old newspapers and I was able to find almost all of them(!). Even, and I was surprised again, there had been a lot of coverage on them! I creating articles about almost all of them. It was nice to discover who were the first Paralympic athletes and there biography like Elka Gaarlandt, Delphine van Opdorp-Ariens Kappers and Marion de Groot. And so I was able to write biographies about almost all athletes at Netherlands at the 1960 Summer Paralympics, Netherlands at the 1964 Summer Paralympics, Netherlands at the 1968 Summer Paralympics and Netherlands at the 1972 Summer Paralympics. See for instance the amount of only surnames in 1972 before searching (with only red links at the time) and compare it to Netherlands at the 1972 Summer Paralympics, how it is now. I was not only able to retrieve the medalists names, but also of the non-medal winner participants. While doing this research I noticed that several errors in the official Paralympic.org: 1) In the database are of the first few Paralympics is missing most of the non medalists athletes and medalists of the team events. But this is never explicitly mentioned. So for instance at the 1964 Summer Paralympics# Participating delegations section, the amount of athletes is not correct. I corrected there the number of the Netherlands from 7 to 11: see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1964_Summer_Paralympics&diff=1047620879&oldid=1044999776 . I wrote the explanation for this number and references at Netherlands at the 1964 Summer Paralympics.

2) The database contains of most people only the surname. Besides that not the whole names are listed there are several typo’s in these surnames. For instance Minholtz is Minholts (1968) and “Pimmelar” is Pimmelaar (1972)

3) Some people won medals in multiple sports. Many of these athletes are listed as two different persons in the databae. For instance, the same as above mentioned Pimmelaar: https://www.paralympic.org/h-pimmelar and https://www.paralympic.org/pimmelar (see: https://schiedam.courant.nu/issue/TR-ROT/1973-07-30/edition/0/page/3?query= )

4) Having done investigation with reports of multiple newspapers and later interviews, I have evidence the databases misses at least 1 individual medal. 5) Having done investigation on 1) all available newspapers and 2) available images: I have evidence that at least one medalist in the database has a typo in the name ànd had the wrong nationality (òr is a John Doe). These errors seems to be in some way small errors, but these are error in the official history of the Paralympics. The errors might affect many pages already on Wikipedia, even on the main page Summer Paralympic Games. While writing the biographies of the Dutch Paralympians, I have already solved multiple of the above mentioned problems (1, 2, 3) and already removed several BLP errors. I didn’t publish the points 4 and 5 as these are mayor changes having overall impact. (I’ve learned from changing a nationality of a person…). I was writing down my investigations on points 4 and 5 before I was blocked. I would like to continue working on this and going in discussion about the reliability of certain data in the Paralympic.org database. As I was finishing the evidence of the correct medals and medalists, the Wikipedia pages are still listing incorrect medal lists and listing athletes at the wrong nation page. I would like to continue working on it, and improve the content of the early Paralympic pages.

Recent deaths

Wikipedia is out of balance, skewed to recent events and people see: Wikipedia:Recentism. Besides of that there is a Gender Gap and people tend to write on articles with recent online English sources. I encountered that many red links at the recent deaths page are also of “highly notable” people. As an example, I added the red link of the inventor of the cassette tape Lou Ottens soon after his death at recent deaths. I wondered that of such a notable person, even 4 days after his death, the page was not created. I created the stub. Within a day, the article was expanded to a stub-class article and later even more. I noticed that many more stubs of recent people who passed away were improved. I come to a conclusion that if someone who was notable for something he achieved in the past (not recently) and received after his/her death national media attention, it’s highly likely that person meets WP:GNG (If multiple news sources write in dept about this person, that is already meeting GNG.) I started to create stubs on deceased women and Dutch people with secondary news coverage. Creating stubs that will be seen by many editors and so likely to be expanded and stubs that help against the Women’s gap and recentism. And as recent deaths is one of the most viewed pages at Wikipedia many other editors had substantial contributions to (see below that it is to over 15% of my created pages). I created sometimes up to 10 of those stubs per day. Many of the stubs were taken to AfD or moved to draft space. Most of the articles, in my opinion, were taken to AfD before doing a proper WP:Before, as an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julie_Chipchase&oldid=1022575376 . I have also had many discussion where editors argue that local newspapers doesn’t count towards GNG. There was an editor who moved on a daily basis these short stubs to draft space, even while meeting GNG, having secondary reliable sources.

Other projects

I have also done some smaller projects creating and expanding 100s of historic figures. A few examples:

I created about 15 of the earliest cyclists listed at List of racing cyclists and pacemakers with a cycling-related death. Example: Harry Elkes (also Willy Schmitter, George Leander, Patricia Pepper, Charles Kerff appears to have been republished with, what appears to me, the article how I created it)
With newspaper articles I created about 10 Dutch fencing people of the early 1900s, including images. For instance D. Dreese, Giovanni Giandomenici and Max Zeldenrust
With newspaper articles I expanded about 25 stubs of the early Olympians. Example: Jacques Delprat.

Notes

Note: All the articles that were created with this account have been checked by page patrollers. After it was assumed it was me working under this account, all the content was deleted. Articles were other editors had main contributions to were kept. 2770 pages have been deleted, around 33% being redirects and a some deleted via former AfD . 298 have been kept (>15%).

82.174.61.58

As I wanted to bring some missing content about the 2022 Russian invasion in Ukraine, I added content via an IP address. I started with some small changes. However, because I liked again to add some content, I started making more and more edits and before I knew it I was without my intention an active user again under this IP address. Because it is the same IP address as used when I was active, the content was removed soon. See: here. Besides of writing content, I also started writing some articles. See for instance (if you have access to the removed content) of Draft:Ivan Bidnyak, Artur Hrytsenko, Draft:Alexander Kulyk, Draft:2022 Ukrainian railway attacks, Draft:Oleg Amosov, Draft:Vanda Obiedkova, Hryhoriy Skovoroda Literary Memorial Museum, Yevhen Obedinsky. I was working on: Draft:Denis Kireev.

Notes

I have not used the account User:Dilliedillie who is at Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sander.v.Ginkel (not even in the suspected category) and I have also not used account User:Vaintrain who is at Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sander.v.Ginkel. I think an apology to these users for this false accusation would be in place. If these users have good intentions we should support them and/or learn them how to work properly. I placed the tag on the page of User:SportsOlympic, because this would be the accountname I would like to continue working on.

Conclusion

I have made mistakes. And I have made serious mistakes. I regret it and say sorry for it. I fully understand why I have been blocked. My biggest mistake have been adding controversial content without a good reference to a BLP page and the other one misusing multiple accounts. Those are unforgivable mistakes. However, as I have learned from it, these mistakes will not happen again. If I can get back to work again, I won’t focus on quantity. My intention is to improve Wikipedia and, as I have tried to show above, I think I am capable in doing so. Also, if people have complaints I’m always willing to listen and to learn and improve. Thanks for reading. Have a good day. SportsOlympic (talk) 10:15, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

WP:WALLOFTEXT, WP:SNOWBALL. Yamla (talk) 12:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoever has the stamina to read all of this may get the impression that Sander.v.Ginkel was blocked for problematic editing, but that subsequent accounts like SportsOlympic were only blocked because of the socking, even though they were creating good articles. Looking at the history of this talk page (with the many deletion notices, sourcing warnings, and so on), and reading [Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1084#DinosaursLoveExistence this] ANI discussion, which ended with a SPI but which started because his editing was seriously problematic, may paint a different picture. Even without the SvG sock issues, SportsOlympic was a problematic editor who was heading for restrictions. Fram (talk) 11:04, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request (short version)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

SportsOlympic (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have made mistakes. And I have made serious mistakes. I regret it and say sorry for it. I fully understand why I have been blocked. My biggest mistake have been adding controversial content without a good reference to a BLP page and the other one misusing multiple accounts. Those are unforgivable mistakes. However, as I have learned from it, I will never use multiple accounts anymore and adding controversial content without doing a proper fact-check. I have proven I can write good articles and that I can bring historic work to Wikipedia. If you would like to see evidence that I am capable of it, I reffer to my (too long) previous request here. While using different accounts I have never been perfect. As nobody is perfect, I can't prove to be perfect. But I will always listen, learn and improve from complaining editors, including being keen on copyright while translating and copy-paste edits within English Wikipedia. If I can get back to work again, I won’t focus on quantity and will improve in quality. I will also work on the Paralympic hoaxes still online and wrong and incomplete statistics. SportsOlympic (talk) 14:45, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline. Withdrawn by user. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 20:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm probably not going to review this myself, but I'll note that whoever does may wish to also have a quick look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel/Archive#10 May 2022. --Blablubbs (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I don’t know if it is appropriate I reply? If not, please remove it. I admitted this at here. Besides of that, according Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks#What happens when you request unblock (bullit 6) I think the request should be moved to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard (I also stated it at my previous request, but has not been done). SportsOlympic (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just to reïterate what I said at that SPI, I do think you made some progress as IP 82 at avoiding things that have been issues in the past, but you were also evading the community's clearly-expressed desire that you not edit the English Wikipedia. I am cautiously optimistic for your chances at an unban in a year or so, but requesting one now is far premature. You need to respect that the community has asked you to stop editing, and requesting an unblock less than a month after I blocked your IP-sock does not convey that sort of respect. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 03:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tamzin: I took notice of your advise; it actually stimulated me to write the request. Sorry I didn't wait a year, that because I don't understand why my work would be different in a year compared to now. Actually you say you would support the "indef ban" to "1-year-ban". (If another year is important for the trust, a better solution would in my opinion be to work 1 year in draft-space and talk-space only.) You mention it's important you have seen the improvements while working under the IP address. By extenstion, Sockpuppet investigations of SportsOlympic mentions three copy-paste errors, that I changed within minutes. Without further reasoning, it felt for me not fair to generalise it as "significant disruptive",^(note) that let me assume you wasn't aware of the improvements I have shown with the SportsOlympic account. SportsOlympic (talk) 13:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Tamzin:, sorry I misses the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks#Sockpuppetry blocks. Now understand also why you stated 6 months. Sorry for that. I withdraw my request. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

CBAN is a ban. You are not allowed to edit via any account. Additionally, a request would need to go to AN for discussion (which I would strongly oppose due to the sheer amount of cleanup work that this user has left), with an unblock posted to the original account: User:Sander.v.Ginkel. I will also note as Fram did above, that this account was headed for sanctions due to poor writing and lashing out when questioned. And the repeated sockpuppetry and IDHT inspires no confidence that they have learned from their mistakes. Jip Orlando (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jip Orlando:, Yes, I’m well aware the request should be placed at ANI and asked for it (first request first sentence second request here). I also explained why I submitted the request here and not at the original account. I now see indeed at Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks it should be done from the original account. I didn’t see that and I withdraw my request. SportsOlympic (talk) 19:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I know SO is blocked/banned/etc...

Not saying anything about the block or the ban or the socking etc...oddly enough just wanted to say thank you for posting a while back at Talk:List_of_racing_cyclists_and_pacemakers_with_a_cycling-related_death#Missing_cyclists about "Missing cyclists". I couldn't find the one fellow - "Perere" - other than a few foreign-language mentions (nothing in English, and he didn't seem to be a professional/a champion or well-known/famous, appears to be merely an early cycling death). Anyway, thanks for bringing up "Johnny Nelson", he's been added. After all, the accident that ended up killing him happened at the 1890-1926 version of the Madison Square Garden during a 15 mile head-to-head race with the great cycling champion Jimmy Michael... Shearonink (talk) 01:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note for myself

Unnoticed vandalism: this edit

Category:Sport climbers has been nominated for renaming

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