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The result was delete. Courcelles 22:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Randolph Lalonde (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Non-notable writer who fails to meet WP:AUTHOR or WP:BK. All of his manuscripts are self-published, as the article itself admits, and therefore cannot be used to demonstrate notability, per WP:SPS. No WP:RS sources exist to establish WP:N. Everything on Google appears to be self-generated by the writer himself. Also, there have been extensive WP:AUTO and WP:COI problems with the article almost from the beginning, and its problems with notability have long been discussed on the talk page without resolution. Qworty (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete I spent some time filtering out the fancruft and puffery from the article. There's nothing left at all. The article (whether in its previous or current form) contains no claim of notability. He's just someone who writes stuff and self-publishes it. I can't find anything anywhere referring to him other than his own blogs and so on. The article's Talk has three or four fawning defenses of the subject's importance, all of them dated the same day, and all from SPAs which made only that one edit, period -- oops, except for an IP based in the subject's hometown. EEng (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per EEng. No RS supports author's notability. --Pete Tillman (talk) 20:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per EEng. While a self-published author could in theory still be be notable, there's no indication this one is. Edward321 (talk) 13:47, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note to closing admin Don't forget to delete the photo as well -- it will be an orphan. EEng (talk) 17:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Since this has only been deleted once previously, I don't think the salt shaker is needed quite yet. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thiaoouba Prophecy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Previously deleted as Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Thiaoouba_Prophecy. Many of the sources cited do not mention book or author. Still no significant and independent coverage found to satisfy notability requirements. LuckyLouie (talk) 21:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete:The sources provided either have nothing to do with the book, do not meet WP:RS, or both. No evidence of notability (either WP:GNG or WP:NBOOK) provided. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: no evidence of reliable coverage of this topic, let alone substantial reliable coverage. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 06:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I do understand the Wikipedia's policies and see what you mean. Unfortunately, at this moment, I couldn't find any reliable sources that could make this article notable from Wikipedia's point of view. But the book IS notable. Because if you read it carefully, you will see how important its message is for all of us. And I know it's all true that is written in the book, for I proved it to myself, if you will, on my own experience (learning to see auras; astral travel, telekinesis, telepathy, etc), including the existence of those people who entrusted Michel Desmarquet with writing of the book. I'm just writing it in a hope that those responsible administrators will at least read the book and, if not try to learn what I learned, maybe leave this article online having realized how important it is. For, yes, at this moment the book is not notable by the official sources, which is not a surprise, but hopefully people will start to open up their minds and then this book will become the assistant to our spiritual development. Steve 17:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20Bond09 (talk • contribs)
- I've provided a couple of old newspapers as sources that mention the book. Steve 18:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20Bond09 (talk • contribs)
- Note the article has been rec-created against policy, and creators state sharing "truth" is their goal. Recommend salt after delete. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. None of the online references show any notability, and most don't even mention the book. No evidence of notability anywhere else that I could find. Even the article's creator states that he/she "couldn't find any reliable sources that could make this article notable from Wikipedia's point of view". Book appears to be a pile of fringe theories.--Dmol (talk) 21:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not the author of the article, I am a contributor. And I hinted at what one could do before labeling the book as a pile of fringe theories. Steve 15:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20Bond09 (talk • contribs)
- Delete as per nominator, Qwyrxian. Also support Salt. Edward321 (talk) 14:18, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 22:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Lewis Nicholls (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Local radio presenter, at college, local coverage only, fails WP:BIO. Paste Let’s have a chat. 21:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fails per WP:BIO. Qworty (talk) 23:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete, not notable. Hairhorn (talk) 18:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Logan Talk Contributions 08:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Utusan Borneo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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- Delete This article is self-promotion and does not cite any outside sources. See Wikipedia:Spam USchick (talk) 21:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep In my view the subject is notable. The notability is both inherent and derived from significant coverage in reliable sources. On the inherent side, it is the first fully Malay-language newspaper in Sabah, which is a significant development for a state in which Malay is the official language. A broadsheet newspaper with circulation across two Malaysian states (Sabah and Sarawak) and one foreign country (Brunei) could scarcely not be notable. On the coverage side, the article doesn't have as many sources as I'd like. The one source given is clearly significant coverage. News searches show there is other coverage out there. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to expand the article with many more sources because most of the coverage seems to be in Malay language. Obviously, much if not most of the coverage of this Malay-language newspaper is in Malay. That can be seen in the raft of articles on the back pages of a google news search. As for the nominator's reasons for deletion: (1) The article as it existed a couple of days ago was a little bit spammy. But it's not any more -- it's just not referenced as well as it could be. (2) "does not cite any outside sources" is plainly wrong. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- If the subject is notable, please explain in the article what makes it notable and include the foreign language sources. There is no requirement for sources to be in English. USchick (talk) 21:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You're absolutely right that there's no requirement for English language sources. Unfortunately, my Malay language competence isn't good enough for me to confidently review the Malay language sources and use them to support material in the article. But (a) we know there is significant coverage in English; and (b) there is more coverage in Malay. The article doesn't need to be in a state of perfection to survive AfD. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- keep This article is not an advertisement masquerading as an article, nor contains external link spamming and has no references that appear to have the aim of promoting the author or the work being referenced. It is thus not an example of Wikipedia:Spam. The article would be better with some more references, but if it can be improved by editing, it should be rather than being deleted per WP:ATD Francis Bond (talk) 07:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- I try not to do "per" !votes, but Mkativerata said about everything I would have liked to on the subject. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Withdrawn by proposer. Withdrawn by proposer; clear consensus to keep updated article Avi (talk) 07:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Counter-missionary (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Does not really seem like a proper topic for an encyclopedia article. It starts out by saying "counter-missionary" (notice that it is not a noun as WP titles should be) is opposition to any missionary activity. Then it switches to efforts to convert Jews to Christianity. Other activities are not mentioned at all although there are many people who oppose missionary activities by, for instance, Christians to tribal groups in the Amazon, cults on college campuses, even Muslims in non-Muslim countries. To me it seems better to discuss Jewish anti-missionarism in the same article that discusses missionary activities targeting Jews, so that both sides are presented together for better neutrality Nomination withdrawn since there is a sincere effort to change the topic of the article.Borock (talk) 20:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- NOTE: The article has now been moved to a new name: Jewish views on missionaries and counter-missionaries to fit in and follow in a series like that, such as Jewish views on contraception; Jewish views on astrology; Jewish views on religious pluralism etc, etc, etc. IZAK (talk) 06:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Huh? The article is about Jewish views on missionaries (not counter-missionaries), isn't it? Jayjg (talk) 06:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The heading now includes both missionaries and counter-missionaries. IZAK (talk) 07:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Huh? The article is about Jewish views on missionaries (not counter-missionaries), isn't it? Jayjg (talk) 06:51, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. As a fomer contributor to the Counter-missionary article, I think it should be either revamped OR merged with, and redirected to, the Missionary article. --Loremaster (talk) 23:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I can't really comment on the worthiness of the article topic for inclusion in Wikipedia. The article is probably poorly named, per the nominators rationale. It is really "about" counter-missionary efforts by Jewish groups against the missionary efforts by Christian groups (well, mostly). Perhaps the article should be retitled accordingly, although I can't comment on whether this subtopic is notable. As it currently stands, the article is largely sourced to the counter-missionary groups themselves, which are obviously not credibly independent of the subject. Sławomir Biały (talk) 14:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi Sławomir, good suggestion to change the topic to clarify it. IZAK (talk) 06:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment because I can't think of any other clear way of headlining this comment. I personally think the material could be added to either the Missionary article or, potentially, the Jews for Judaism article, both of which seem to be closely related to this one. I have some reservations about the clear notability of this article as per WP:N, as well. Based on the Google news listings, it seems that the subject may well be notable enough, maybe, but, if it is, then if there are similar efforts in other religions the article would clearly benefit from material on them as well. John Carter (talk) 17:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi John, the article cannot be merged the way you say because it has enough material of its own and to merge it with the Missionary article would be a case of WP:SYNTH, and it cannot be merged with the Jews for Judaism article which is an organization and it's not the only one doing counter-missionary work against Christian missionizing of Jews. IZAK (talk) 06:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- If the article is expanded along the lines you suggest in your last sentence, then I am concerned about the likely original research by synthesis that would result. If "counter-missionary" refers to a general concept, and there are third-party sources that address the general concept, then an article can be written around that general concept. But, as seems to be the case, there are only sources about counter-missionary efforts of one kind or another, then it's probably not consistent with our mission to create an article that synthesizes those disparate sources. That's why I suggested renaming the article. Moving a part of the content to Jews for Judaism seems like an excellent suggestion though. Sławomir Biały (talk) 22:28, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, or maximally merge with any content discussing the systematic opposition to missionary activity. JFW | T@lk 02:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep because: (1) Given its clearer new title: Jewish views on missionaries and counter-missionaries, similar to others like it, it is devoted a serious topic. (2) This is a well-researched article that has adequate WP:RS and meets the requirements of WP:VERIFY. (3) Claiming that the article is too "one-sided" is not a reason to delete, but rather is a reason to improve it, which could be done if the nominator wanted to contact the relevant WP projects or editors who worked on it to ask for help. (4) This is a WP:NOTABLE topic of concern to Jews and Judaism as the articles many sources and links prove. (5) This article has been on WP since 2004 and many editors have worked on editing and improving it. The nominator is requested to withdraw this nomination and take it for further discussion at WP:TALKJUDAISM for improvement. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Huh? The article is about Jewish views on missionaries (not counter-missionaries), isn't it? Jayjg (talk) 06:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Right, see the updated title Jewish views on missionaries and counter-missionaries. IZAK (talk) 07:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Huh? The article is about Jewish views on missionaries (not counter-missionaries), isn't it? Jayjg (talk) 06:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The contents obviously need to be improved, but the subject itself is notable, and gets many Google, Google book hits etc. Jayjg (talk) 06:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. IZAK's changes are a big improvement and should address the concerns the delete requestor had. It's notable and has enough support for an article. Zad68 (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I withdrew the nomination after changes. I never objected to the information in the article, only the format in which it was presented.Borock (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The context of the article was clearly Jewish groups that have been established for the express purposes of countering efforts by Christian missionaries. It should not be merged with Jews for Judaism since that would exclude other organizations with counter-missionary goals, such as Outreach Judaism and Aish HaTorah. Also, as a generic topic, it could be expanded to organizations established to counter missionary efforts to other religions and by other religions (such as Islamic evangelism to Hundus), if such exists. --DeknMike (talk) 19:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep. If users wish tomove and rename, fine; this is an editorial decision anyone can WP:BOLDly make, and not something for AfD Ironholds (talk) 14:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Linburn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Seems to be a minor part of Erskine, however good sources are hard to come by. Article doesn't have much context or content at the moment. The settlement is unlikely to be notable enough on its own, so the article should be redirected or deleted. Scotlandplaces.gov.uk says it consist of only one building. Travelbird (talk) 14:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Not enough information.Novice7 | Talk 14:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete – Judging by the information below, I lean towards renaming it to Wilkieston. Novice7 | Talk 05:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Powers that be save us from research-by-Google-Maps! ☺ The Linburn in Erskine is some 70km away from the Linburn near Wilkieston and Kirknewton that is described in as many words in this article, which is actually at 55°54′02″N 3°24′24″W / 55.90059°N 3.40660°W / 55.90059; -3.40660 (Linburn_Park). It's actually the site of Linburn House, an erstwhile mansion house, where there still is a Grade B listed building and a a Grade B listed building. The name to look for now is Linburn Park. The correct listing at ScotlandsPlaces is Old Linburn House, not some place in a different county. Uncle G (talk) 00:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Judging by the maps, satellite views, and business contact details it is a distinct settlement (thanks Uncle G for the coordinates) and thus should be kept by past precedent. It's not clear though what the name should be, the most detailed map I've found appears to use "Linburn" to label the old manor, "Linburn Park" to label an estate of houses north west of the manor and south of the A71 road, and "Wilkieston" to describe the settlement along the north side of the A71 around the junction with the B7030 Bonnington Road. The Angela Elizabeth Nursery, on Bonnington Road, gives it's postal address as Wilkieston [1], but the article states that Linburn is "Near Wilkieston". It also though says that is "on the A71" whereas from the map labels it is Wilkieston that is on the A71, not Linburn. From all the map evidence it looks as though this is, in the present day, one settlement and so they should all be covered on the same article, with the other names redirecting there. I'd suggest a rename to Wilkieston, as that appears to be the one used for postal purposes, and the only one used by Google maps, both of which suggest it is the one with the greatest importance. This is all without prejudice to a future splitting if there is enough verifiable encyclopaedic material to justify more than one article, but the present paucity of information suggests this isn't likely to happen soon. Thryduulf (talk) 01:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- John Wilson's 1882 Gazetteer of Scotland describes (on page 300) Linburn as a "seat in Kirknewton parish". The 1860 Nelsons' hand-book to Scotland: for tourists, also by Wilson, lists (on page 29) "the mansions of meadowbank, Ormiston Hill, Hill House, Linburn, and Bellfield" in the entry for Kirknewton. This article about Kirknewton parish, citing Groome's 1882 Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland lists Linburn House ("a mansion in Kirknewton parish") alongside the aforementioned mansions. The parish of Kirknewton (abolished in 1975) doesn't exist any more, just like the mansion (mostly demolished in 1955), but when the historical things existed, that's where they were said to have existed.
Groome describes "Wilkiestown" as "a post-office hamlet in Kirknewton parish". Ironically, it's the Pigeon racing news and gazette from April 1967 that reveals that it wasn't until after the demolition of the mansion, when the Scottish War Blinded built various facilities (including "a Housing Estate; a Hostel for the single men; modern workshops; recreational facilities such as a Concert Hall; Bowling Green; Playground; Playing Field; and a Youth Club"), that the Linburn Estate became part of Wilkieston. The 1973 Johnston's gazetteer of Scotland describes Linburn as "estate at Wilkieston". Uncle G (talk) 05:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Checking whether I have interpreted this correctly, you are saying that there was a manor of "Linburn", deolished circa 1955, and on the grounds of this manor a housing estate was built, taking the name "Linburn Estate" and that at some point between 1955 and 1967 the remains of the manor (and the use to which the site is currently put) and the estate administratively became part of the adjacent hamlet of "Wilkieston"? If that is correct, then I think the article about the settlement should be at Wilkieston, with redirects in place at Linburn and Linburn estate. Should there be enough notable information about the manor to sustain an article, then this would best be placed at Linburn in place of the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 05:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That's my understanding from what I've read (all cited above, so — as usual — anyone is welcome to double-check, and indeed find better sources giving better information). Uncle G (talk) 06:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Checking whether I have interpreted this correctly, you are saying that there was a manor of "Linburn", deolished circa 1955, and on the grounds of this manor a housing estate was built, taking the name "Linburn Estate" and that at some point between 1955 and 1967 the remains of the manor (and the use to which the site is currently put) and the estate administratively became part of the adjacent hamlet of "Wilkieston"? If that is correct, then I think the article about the settlement should be at Wilkieston, with redirects in place at Linburn and Linburn estate. Should there be enough notable information about the manor to sustain an article, then this would best be placed at Linburn in place of the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 05:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- John Wilson's 1882 Gazetteer of Scotland describes (on page 300) Linburn as a "seat in Kirknewton parish". The 1860 Nelsons' hand-book to Scotland: for tourists, also by Wilson, lists (on page 29) "the mansions of meadowbank, Ormiston Hill, Hill House, Linburn, and Bellfield" in the entry for Kirknewton. This article about Kirknewton parish, citing Groome's 1882 Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland lists Linburn House ("a mansion in Kirknewton parish") alongside the aforementioned mansions. The parish of Kirknewton (abolished in 1975) doesn't exist any more, just like the mansion (mostly demolished in 1955), but when the historical things existed, that's where they were said to have existed.
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- Delete. All the maps I have access to seem to confirm Thryduulf (talk · contribs)'s findings above, i.e. that the name of the village is Wilkieston. This would mean that Wilkieston would qualify as notable enough for an article. It would seem better though to create it from scratch with a clean history, rather than renaming the current article. There's really nothing in the current article worth keeping. --Deskford (talk) 02:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A little more research suggests that the Linburn estate in Wilkieston is owned and operated as a residential training and recreational centre by the Scottish National Institution for the War Blinded. This would be worth covering in a new article if it were created for Wilkieston. --Deskford (talk) 02:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That's in the ScotlandsPlaces entry that I pointed to above. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 05:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A little more research suggests that the Linburn estate in Wilkieston is owned and operated as a residential training and recreational centre by the Scottish National Institution for the War Blinded. This would be worth covering in a new article if it were created for Wilkieston. --Deskford (talk) 02:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Going back to the nomination statement, there is indeed a Linburn that is an area of Erskine, that looks to be completely non-notable beyond the fact that it exists. Is a hatnote directing people there something that would be of benefit? I'm thinking something along the lines of "Linburn redirects here, for the area of Erskine see Erskine". Thryduulf (talk) 05:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There's an already deleted article here that was about that Linburn, or, at least, "a hall like any other" named Linburn in Erskine. Uncle G (talk) 06:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- At one point this article mentioned Dunfermline and West Fife (UK Parliament constituency), suggesting the author may also have been thinking of the area of Dunfermline called Linburn. --Deskford (talk) 14:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There's an already deleted article here that was about that Linburn, or, at least, "a hall like any other" named Linburn in Erskine. Uncle G (talk) 06:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As I understand it, Wilkieston is the name of the village, which is to the north of the A71, while Linburn is the name of the Scottish War Blinded Centre, which is to the south of the A71 on the old Linburn estate, and is practically a self-contained village in itself. I would support a move to Wilkieston and an expansion of the article to incorporate both elements. I don't think there is any case for outright deletion. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 09:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The Scottish War Blinded website describes the Linburn centre as being "based at Wilkieston" [2]. I think the case is clear enough? Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 09:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename to Wilkieston, with appropriate revision, per Thryduulf and Jonathan Oldenbuck. JohnCD (talk) 10:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename/Merge. Agreeing with others over how it should be at Wilkieston. However, even then there is hardly anything verifiable to say about the place. I wonder whether it would be better treated as part of its community council (Scottish sort of equivalent to parish I believe), which is "East Calder and Wilkieston". Quantpole (talk) 12:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Clearly covered by multiple sources, I would recomend redirecting Linburn Park, Linburn Estate and Old Linburn House to Linburn and any other feature that is covered by reliable sources. George Alfred Scott (talk) 15:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I would not recomend moving to Wilkieston, instead there should be a separate article for that place as searching for it on google reveals a lot of hits. George Alfred Scott (talk) 15:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What I and others are recommending is that the article about the former manor and the current use of the site should be a section on the Wilkieston article - indeed if the Wilkieston article existed I would be recommending merging the Linburn article into it. Thryduulf (talk) 16:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I would not recomend moving to Wilkieston, instead there should be a separate article for that place as searching for it on google reveals a lot of hits. George Alfred Scott (talk) 15:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Please note that User:George Alfred Scott has been blocked as a sockpuppet. Quantpole (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note also that Groton Wood (talk · contribs), creator of this article, has been identified as a sock puppet of the same master, Crouch, Swale (talk · contribs). --Deskford (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Interesting that British Listed Buildings treats Linburn Park as part of Kirknewton, while scotlandsplaces.gov treats it as part of Wilkieston. Since Kirknewton is a blue link and Wilkieston a red one, and considering that there seems to be virtually nothing to say about either Linburn Park or Wilkieston, I say redirect (or merge, if preferred) to Kirknewton. Alzarian16 (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That will be because Kirknewton is the post town for Wilkieston, e.g. the houses in the Linburn Park estate have the following address, "## Linburn Park, Wilkieston, KIRKNEWTON, EH27 8DU", and the Scottish War Blinded give the contact details for their Linburn Centre as, "The Linburn Centre, Scottish War Blinded, Linburn, Wilkieston, By Kirknewton, EH27 8DU". That doesn't mean that Wilkieston (or Linburn) are part of Kirknewton, just that they are within its postal area. Thryduulf (talk) 19:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Discussion of improving, merging, etc can be done on the article's talk page,(which I note has never been used) there is clearly not a consensus to delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Regional differences in the Chinese language (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Not sure what the point of this article is. We already have Chinese language, Varieties of Chinese which properly describes the different varieties, and articles on traditional and simplified characters for the written language. The table is confusing and misleading – there's not one was of using Chinese in China as it implies – with some very odd choices of entries, and should not be in all Chinese which really limits its readership. Without that there's almost nothing to the article. JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 23:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Move to wiktionary seems like local colloquialisms are documented, that would be wiktionary appendix material. 65.93.14.196 (talk) 06:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: inaccurate comparisons given. "Varieties of Chinese" document the differences between the major dialect groups, including Yue (AKA Cantonese), Wu (incl. SH-ese), etc. Such a list would be too much to include at Chinese language. Though I do agree much of this is Wiktionary material. Yet at the same time we have articles on regional differences in English, French, Korean, and Portuguese. The problem with this is that it needs to be drastically expanded in order to be on par with those articles and be less susceptible to deletion. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 06:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Translate to Chinese, then transwiki beta Wikiversity- good learning material for Cantonese speakers. Kayau Voting IS evil 07:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename whether moved or not. This isn't about different regions but different countries; actual separate states. The title should be edited to reflect this. Also, Chinese is generally treated as separate languages. So how about International differences in Chinese? Munci (talk) 14:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and improve. There exists many similar articles in the English Wikipedia, which draw comparison between different varieties of the same language. Take a look at Category:Language comparison and the following articles:
- Regional differences in the English language: American and British English differences, British and Malaysian English differences
- Regional differences in the French language: Swiss French >> Differences between Swiss French and standard French
- Regional differences in the Korean language: North-South differences in the Korean language
- Regional differences in the Portuguese language: Portuguese dialects >> Differences
- I don't see any justification for discriminating the Chinese language, which is the language with the largest number of native speakers in the world. If someone says that the article should not be "all in Chinese", we can find more Wikipedians to collaborate on adding romanisations (such as pinyin or jyutping) of the Chinese phrases to the article. I think this article is very helpful for people who are learning Chinese as a foreign language. (As an analogy, a person who is learning English as a foreign language might find it useful to know that "elevator" in American English is the same thing as "lift" in Commonwealth English.) - Alan (talk) 17:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem though is that Chinese is not one language in the same way that English or French is. So while it's possible to describe pretty comprehensively the differences between British and American English in an article it's impossible to do the same between Cantonese and Mandarin, for example. Such an article properly covering the subject would be a dictionary, something Wikipedia is not. And that is only two of a large number of varieties of Chinese.
This article ignores all this, instead focussing on a small (and unusual) selection of words. The grouping is not by variety but by territory and says nothing about the pronunciation of the words (useful as it often gives a clue why different characters are used), even which variety is used where, or which territories use which of simplified or traditional characters. Nor is it indicated which entries are vernacular Chinese. As such this article is of little use to anyone learning Chinese. There is already an article on written Cantonese which covers most of the written differences between Mandarin and Cantonese, in a much more encyclopaedic way, including some of these words, which would perhaps be a better place for this.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 14:14, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem though is that Chinese is not one language in the same way that English or French is. So while it's possible to describe pretty comprehensively the differences between British and American English in an article it's impossible to do the same between Cantonese and Mandarin, for example. Such an article properly covering the subject would be a dictionary, something Wikipedia is not. And that is only two of a large number of varieties of Chinese.
- I am a native Cantonese speaker from Hong Kong. Perhaps I can help make clear some of the confusions over the Chinese language.
- The articles Varieties of Chinese and Spoken Chinese deal with the different branches of spoken Chinese, such as the Cantonese branch, the Mandarin branch, the Min branch, the Wu branch etc. Those articles focus on the how the same Chinese character is pronounced differently in the different branches.
- However, the article Regional differences in the Chinese language is intended to focus on the differences in the vocabularies, i.e. what words/phrases each territory use to convey the same meaning. (If the title of the article is not descriptive enough, we could rename it.) Here we are not comparing the differences between Traditional Chinese characters and Simplified Chinese characters, nor are we comparing the pronunciation differences between Cantonese and Mandarin. Instead, we are comparing the use of "巴士" in Hong Kong to the use of "公車" in Taiwan (just like how we make the contrast between "lift" in Britain and "elevator" in America in the article American and British English differences). Note that the difference between "巴士" and "公車" is not the difference between Cantonese and Mandarin. It is just that the two territories adopt different words for the same object.
- There are similar comparison tables in the articles Hong Kong Cantonese, Taiwanese Mandarin and Singaporean Mandarin. But the Taiwanese Mandarin article only compares Taiwanese Mandarin to Standard Mandarin, but not to Singaporean Mandarin. It would be nice to have one table that summarises the differences between all those different kinds of Chinese.
- Perhaps we should all work together on expanding the introductory paragraph, to explain/address all those questions that John brought up. -Alan (talk) 15:08, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Anything but keep I see a good faith attempt to write an article here and I understand the potential utility of having this article, but I don't think it belongs on Wikipedia in it's current incarnation. There is a single reference but the article also appears to contain a lot of WP:OR. Since this is only about the written form and intends to encompass a wide perspective, a new subsection with some sourced examples may be appropriately merged to Chinese character, which already has a variants section. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
- I don't see where the article intends to cover more than just the written form. and if I am wrong, I don't think it should do that; we already have articles on the various dialect groups. And a merge into a large article like Chinese character would make that article burst at its reams. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 17:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename. E.g. to Regional differences in the use of characters in the Chinese language, something that makes clear the article is about different characters, like in English different words (elevator VS lift) and not about pronounciation. TopoChecker (talk) 17:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)This user has been blocked as a sockpuppet of a banned user. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]- That still doesn't address the fact that Chinese is not a single language, but several. And that the difference between China and Singapore is not one of 'region' but of 'state'. Munci (talk) 10:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and improve - better to explain the differences of Chinese language terms among different regions, rather than just describe. SoHome Jacaranda Lilau (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename prefereably to "unofficial regional differences etc". Because these are not official. Taiwan and mainland attempted something like a renewal Zhonghua Da Zidian (last year I believe) to match words between regions. Those are more official than what's on this page. Benjwong (talk) 04:42, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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- Another awful discussion where anything but the sourcing is discussed. The issue is OR and N so please can those interested comment on the sources. Expand and improve is not a valid argument - not having sources if so if this is to survive the keep side need to demonstrate reliable sources that discuss regional differences in the Chinese language. Spartaz Humbug! 20:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- comment The suggestions for keep don't address any of it's flaws. First it's not about one "Chinese" language: there are two languages represented in the table, Mandarin Chinese and Cantonese. I know the WP policy is to be deliberately vague over whether they are languages or dialects but fact is they are mutually unintelligible varieties with mostly different words, far more than can be contained in an article. At the same time it is completely ignoring other Chinese languages. Second there is no single "China" vocabulary as the first column suggests; Cantonese, Mandarin and other Chinese languages are spoken and used in China. Third as per WP:MOS#Foreign terms "Foreign words should be used sparingly". An article that consists largely of a table of Chinese characters clearly does not satisfy this: even with phonetic translations there would be far too much Chinese text. See also MOS:CHINA which says "do not use characters or romanized forms excessively, such as for common words, making this a kind of English–Chinese bilingual edition". And lastly WP:NOT#DICT.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 21:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and improve. If a subject is potentially encyclopedic, flaws are never a reason to delete, but to fix. Our rule on avoiding Chinese characters when not needed for identification obviously does not apply when we are actually discussing the Chinese language! (just as an article on the German language will be useless unless it contains a good deal of German!) DGG ( talk ) 05:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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No indication of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. This (and its related articles) look like components of a PR blitz on behalf of Northam Psychotechnologies. LuckyLouie (talk) 20:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I'd already looked for any sources for this phrase and found no independent sources. Dougweller (talk) 20:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Every source I could find traces back to here or to the institute being pushed in this set of articles. Mangoe (talk) 15:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Google Scholar, available from the third link on the AfD template finds just one of the references (Shevrin and Smith “Average Evoked Response and Verbal Correlates . . . “, , Psychophysiology, vol. 8, No. 2, 1971.) to be cited by 33 other scientific articles. Scholar would also be useful for the related AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Semantic Stimuli Response Measurement. Anarchangel (talk) 14:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What I'm seeing, though, is that the term in question has no traction in GScholar. Shevrin himself appears to enjoy some notability and could probably support an article, but the connection of the paper in question to the article at hand is tenuous. Mangoe (talk) 15:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged but that is what this appears to be: it was written by User:Harris DC about the Harris County District Clerk. Whilst I commend the author for removing the most peacocky of the content within the article when advised to do so, this still remains an entirely flattering and one-sided profile of a subject whose political career depends on a positive public perception and appears to fall foul of WP:SOAP. Then there is the question of notability: WP:POLITICIAN notes that elected politicians at state level or greater are generally notable, but this is a county post. Not all the refs mention the subject and those that do are doubtful in terms of meeting WP:GNG. I have strong reservations about the article's neurality and there does not appear to be sufficient notability to justify its inclusion. I42 (talk) 19:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The office he was elected to is nowhere near high enough for him to meet our notability guidelines for politicians. Article can be recreated if he moves up to a higher office. No other persuasive claim to notability is made. Cullen328 (talk) 20:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I originally deleted it per {{db-g11}} as spam and restored it (reluctantly) per author Harris DC's complaint on my talk page. After restoration, Harris DC removed speedy deletion tags and Collinsbarry showed up for a single edit to do the same. I agree completely with the nominator's deletion rationale and with Cullen 348. – Athaenara ✉ 23:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Those contributing to the page are new to wikipedia. Athaenara is right in that the guidelines on rules where not initially followed, but that has since ceased after being put on notice by same.
The office answers to 4.3 million tax payers. The office holder was voted in by over half a million voters in the 2010 election (with over 1.2 million people total voting in this race alone). The county is the largest in TX. The DA (district attorney Pat Lykos has her own page, yet without the district clerk to manage the Sheriff and DA's criminal intake PLUS the 74 countywide courts and staff and paperwork/ filings that go withit, she cannot do her job and prosecute any criminals.
It is a farce to say that this position is not notable when the office controls 500 employees and 26.6 million dollars in budget. It is a farce when the district clerk of the largest county in Texas gets elected with more votes than candidate for US senate or Governor in other states like Delaware. I understand that the username was in conflict, but i just picked a name. My goal is to flesh out the existing Harris County website with a note on each of its office holders.
Not sure the editors are aware, but Houston is only one third the size in population of Harris County (and resides almost entirely inside the county). More people voted for District Clerk then for Mayor Annise Parker.--Harris DC (talk) 14:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not notable, there is no substantial third party coverage of this person. There is one reference that is actually about him, the rest are mentions. Hairhorn (talk) 14:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - A county-wide or city-wide position in a large municipalty is sometimes kept, and sometimes not. I would not say it would be a "farce" to delete this article, but I think it should be kept per WP:POLITICIAN. District attorneys of larger counties usually rate their own article, see, e.g., David Soares and Cyrus Vance, Jr., but county legislators or special district commisioners do not, see e.g., Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Blakeman. City attorneys and "corporation counsel" are not normally notable, see, e.g., Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gail Goode, nor are councillers from small cities. Carol Moseley Braun, who was Cook County, Illinois Recorder of deeds, a similar position to that of Harris County district clerk, at the time of her election to the United States Senate. Bearian (talk) 21:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added three more on point (about--not mentions) mainstream articles and Electoral Summary to show orders of magnitude.--Harris DC (talk) 15:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. Contributor and defender is a WP:SPA and there are probably issues here of WP:AUTO. Qworty (talk) 03:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Houston is currently the forth largest city in the US (residing almost entirely inside Harris County), and yet is only one third of Harris County's entire population. The County-wide office holders clearly merit articles.--Harris DC (talk) 04:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. As stated above, in terms of WP:POLITICIAN, county-wide or city-wide position in a large municipalty is sometimes kept, and sometimes not. However, in this case, the latter seems appropriate. Regardless of one's position on whether one of the biographical subguidelines is met, given that this is a WP:BLP article, WP:GNG still needs to be met, and the substantive coverage from WP:RS does not exist here. Some weak election coverage and information about the office itself do not indicate non-trivial information actually about the person. --Kinu t/c 21:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete not a position that will make someone notable for the purposes of a general encyclopedia, even in a large metropolitan area. Some county positions are: the county sherriff or DA would be notable. DGG ( talk ) 05:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Good arguments have been madeas to why this an exception to the local government rule. Additionally, although sources are currently lacking, they surely can be found and most likely will be added with time. The vanity issue has been addressed and begun to be remedied. I don't love the article in its current state, but deletion is not the answer, since it has the full potential to meet verifiability and notability.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 21:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG, WP:RS,WP:POLITICIAN, and WP:AUTO. It's basically just self-promotion. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 23:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Subject does not meet notability guidelines for bands and there is no indication that there is significant coverage in reliable sources (fails WP:GNG as well). Danger (talk) 19:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Cannot find sufficient coverage, fails the WP:BAND guideline. Polyamorph (talk) 20:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. notability comes from sources not from mentions or working in the media so the delete arguments appear the ones based on policy Spartaz Humbug! 03:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Clearly her name is notable. But 2 of 3 sources mentioning her, are really not concerned with her, but with the more famous name holder. Then, there's an interview, which really doesn't count in showing notability. There seems to be no 3rd party reliable source that provides substantive biographical details about this Heather Mills, and not the other. Rob (talk) 19:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. This Heather Mills is only mentioned in sources discussing how she gets mixed up with the better-known Heather Mills, and indeed this article was created to bluelink this woman's name in the other Heather Mills article. The article was red-linked at 20:17 March 21, 2008, then created two minutes later. Nothing wrong with doing that, but in this case it meant the issue of notability wasn't fully considered. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 19:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep It's a bit more serious than sometimes getting mixed up, McCartney's ex-wife has made serious attempts to impersonate her, and this implies that she has some significant standing as a journalist to make her identity worth stealing. PatGallacher (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see that implication, Pat. If she was impersonated, it's because the name is the same, according to the sources, not for any other reason. Per BLPIE, that can be mentioned in the Heather Mills article, but it's not reason enough to create a stand-alone BLP. Bottom line is there are no sources on this Heather Mills that we can use to create a bio, except to tell us that she's been impersonated. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 21:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as an absolute best case scenario, this is a BLP1E, but I'm not even sure we can go that far. If the identity theft really happened as claimed, it doesn't appear to have been an especially notable or impactful case of it, as she doesn't appear to have sought legal action or even bother to discuss the matter until nearly a decade after as far as I can tell, and even says "I don’t think it did her any good". Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - clear absence of notability; I'd agree with Andrew Lenahan's comment above that this is a WP:BLP1E at best. (I'd say it comes close to being an WP:A7 candidate, in fact.) Robofish (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep She may satify Wikipedia:Notability (journalists) as a writer for The Independent and Private Eye; see Ian Hislop mentioning her here, and her being cited at Geoffrey Robertson. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:30, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Prod declined rather rudely. Anyway, overspecific list. Parent list List of moths of Israel doesn't exist, so why should it have an even more specific subpage? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, subtract their personal attack and the creator has a point: if this can be cured by moving it to List of moths of Israel and making the current list's contents just one header, then do so. Clearly this is intended to be one of many lists that would in total be comprehensive. That none of the others have been created yet is not a reason for deleting this one. This is how most of the lists in Category:Regional moth lists are organized, because a single list of all species found in many countries would be too long to not divide in this way. On a more specific note, I don't know if microlepidoptera is a proper basis for a sublist given how that article describes that as an "artificial" grouping, but that's a question for the experts, and I guess there's nothing wrong with using informal groups for a country's fauna as well as formal taxonomic ones. In any event, keep whether kept separate as is or moved to a master list title. postdlf (talk) 19:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Question Is this kind of list normal? I can't imagine that there is any species of moth found in Israel that is not also found in at least one of its neighbors. Should we have lists for every nation in the world (not to mention US states, etc.) for every family of animals? If so keep this one. Borock (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm no moth expert but lists like this are generally useful for identifying what can be found in Israel as opposed to a list that highlights exclusivity of populations. If that makes sense... TomPointTwo (talk) 20:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec) Yes, maybe, and yes. Fauna lists by country (and even by state or other subdivision) are a significant topic in popular and scientific literature, regardless of whether those species are endemic to that country. People are interested in not only where species X can be found (as a distribution map would illustrate in that species' article), but in what can be found in location Y, so it makes sense to present the information for both purposes. postdlf (talk) 20:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Biogeography of the Lepidoptera is not my speciality, but a list of moths of the Eastern Mediterranean, or a list of Microlepidoptera of the Eastern Mediterranean, would seem more sensible to me. Israel is a small country and not an island, while nearly all of the other lists in Category:Regional moth lists are for either vast countries or islands. Qwfp (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I don't see any violations of any policies here. It's pretty bare, could probably be renamed/moved and is amazingly niche but those are not criteria for deletion. As a matter of fact nom hasn't provided any relevant reasoning for even listing the article here. TomPointTwo (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - now that somebody created List of moths of Israel and that another article exists in the same vein (List of moths of Israel (Noctuidae)), there's no real reason to delete. I'll leave the naming/biogeography issue to the experts.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, nominator's argument is made moot by the creation of a parent list. Nyttend (talk) 01:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Per Tom.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Suicide of Nicola Raphael (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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This article was deleted at its first AfD on the grounds that though a tragic event there was no evidence of the lasting effects required by WP:EVENT. It has now been reposted with an additional paragraph saying that the school and the local authority have said that they will review their anti-bullying policies. Announcement of a review is the normal reaction of any organisation to fend off criticism, and it does not seem to me that this addition is significant enough to overcome the reasons given for deletion at the AfD. The new version was tagged WP:CSD#G4 and in my view it qualifies, but I am sure that a G4 deletion would be challenged at DRV, which would probably say that the article should be relisted, so to save time I bring it straight back here. JohnCD (talk) 18:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Also new info that the documentary about her story/organ donation got a peabody award after being shown pretty widely including bbc america —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.204.253 (talk) 00:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The article linked to at [3] says "Last year as part of a BBC documentary, the family met Rona, the mother of Jack's donor, 16-year-old Nicola Raphael, who committed suicide after being bullied by classmates." Dream Focus 06:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep A major news paper now appears in Google news search that wasn't there last time. [4] That added to the rest, should prove notability. Dream Focus 06:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Where is this in Google News? Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 07:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Suicide of Nicola Raphael and just the words "suicide" and "Nicola Raphael" get more results.[5] Dream Focus 09:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Where is this in Google News? Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 07:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That's "What's in a name" article doesn't really say more about the article subject than that Raphael's death is "the latest in a long line of high-profile children's suicides attributed to bullying". I'm not sure how that's sign of a long last effect.
- Also, a drive by Google News search isn't terribly indicative of anything in particular. WikiuserNI (talk) 20:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- She is getting news coverage in articles years later. If her case didn't have lasting effect, they wouldn't keep bringing it up all the time. Dream Focus 06:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Is it significant coverage? She's name dropped along with many other unfortunate people. Mention might certainly be made in an article on any anti-bullying efforts. WikiuserNI (talk) 18:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- She is getting news coverage in articles years later. If her case didn't have lasting effect, they wouldn't keep bringing it up all the time. Dream Focus 06:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete — it is a G4. Sincerely, Jack Merridew 09:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- G4, Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, states: "A sufficiently identical and unimproved copy, having any title, of a page deleted via a deletion discussion. This excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies..." More news coverage has been found, and the lack of it is what caused it to be deleted. So G4 does not apply. Dream Focus 09:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- per nom && U can haz file:badgering.jpg ;) Jack Merridew 09:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The article was deleted at the first AfD not for lack of news coverage, but because there was no evidence of any lasting effect. The fifth bullet point of the WP:GNG makes clear that news coverage alone is not enough to over-ride WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENT. JohnCD (talk) 14:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- G4, Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, states: "A sufficiently identical and unimproved copy, having any title, of a page deleted via a deletion discussion. This excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies..." More news coverage has been found, and the lack of it is what caused it to be deleted. So G4 does not apply. Dream Focus 09:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete — indeed a G4. A collection of additional trivial and irrelevant material does NOT lead to a substantial alteration. Yours, Mootros (talk) 15:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- your origan reasoning was: "Delete boarders on resentism. Utterly unencyclopaedic. Mootros (talk) 23:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)" the article was altered after that to have more neutral wording and given balance/positive outlook from the organ donation campaigning etc. the alterations were done after your first statement but before the first article deletion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.163.193 (talk)
- Yes,thank you! Plus still : Delete borders on resentism. Utterly unencyclopaedic. Mootros (talk) 17:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Mootros. Logan Talk Contributions 16:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as a WP:G4. It's the exact same article with the addition of some quotes from a 2001 mention about a scheduled local review. Still no demonstration of significance. Still fails as WP:1EVENT and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. — CactusWriter (talk) 18:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete classic and obvious G4. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As well as wide coverage of the events themselves this article over a year later http://www.pluggedin.com/familyroom/articles/2002/bullyinghitshome.aspx in an american based website (which at that point was also a printed publication) shoes that the the story has gained enough significance/influence to be used as one of many sources/references in an article on linked issues.RR1953 (talk) 18:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - "Lasting impact" means that the event is the precursor to another notable event. A single-school review of bullying policies is not a notable event, in that it would not sustain its own independent article. Article still fails WP:NOT#NEWS and WP:EVENT. - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - for the reasons outlined by JohnCD, CactusW and DustFW. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - As per previous concerns, not enough evidence to say there is a significance to the event. WikiuserNI (talk) 18:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per the previous AfD. Article is sufficiently similar to the previously deleted version. SnottyWong confabulate 20:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The X Factor (Indonesia) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Unreferenced, and Google appears to give no results relating to an actual Indonesian version of the show. Possible hoax. AnemoneProjectors 17:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Sounds as though it should probably be notable, but with no sources to support the text - I tried searching, and found absolutely nothing - we can't even be sure it exists. Alzarian16 (talk) 08:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Keep arguments based on german wikipedia notability carry no weight here and the issue is sourcing. There appears to be a consensus that the person doesn't pass BIO and it should be noted that reliaty show participants are not considered inherantly notable here even if they garner some press as BLP1E kicks in. Spartaz Humbug! 03:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Sarah Knappik (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Fails WP:BIO. Nobody knows this person. She isn't famous. She hasn't achieved anything. She has only lost in game shows. Captain Chandana (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- She is relevant on the german wikipedia. So why not on this one? The only difference between german and english wikipedia is the language, not the relevance of people. --Newsflash (talk) 18:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- By the way, The user account User:Captain Chandana just has contributed at the deletion of this article. Is he even eligible to add a deletion request? I seriously doubt it. --Newsflash (talk) 18:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Knappik meets all 3 criterias on WP:ENT --Newsflash (talk) 18:18, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- By the way, The user account User:Captain Chandana just has contributed at the deletion of this article. Is he even eligible to add a deletion request? I seriously doubt it. --Newsflash (talk) 18:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Her notability is very controversial in German Wikipedia. She doesn't really meet WP:ENT or WP:BIO in English Wikipedia. --91.20.103.5 (talk) 18:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Two deletion requests in the german wikipedia failed, so what is the controversial part about that? btw, another german IP. --Newsflash (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A lot of people explained in the deletion discussion that the article should be deleted after the jungle show in which she participates is over. So the article at the German Wikipedia will probably be deleted when the show is over. Another people demanded an immediate cancellation of the article at the German Wikipedia. --91.20.103.5 (talk) 18:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As one of four german sysops who were of the opinion that the article about Mrs. Knappik is not to be deleted, I just wanted to ask for a favour: the different opinions in the german wikipida are discussed right now, meanwhile we are talking in the Arbitration Committee. Ignore those german IPs, they just want to cut off the debate there presenting a deleted article in the english wikipedia. That's the background. Best wishes, --Capaci34 (talk) 19:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep co-host Dirk Bach has made a joke within the show in Australia about Mrs. Knappik and her disputed status in German wikipedia. 7 million Germans are watching the show daily and she is the star of the show. Currently every day a new request for deletion is published in German wikipedia, hoping Dirk Bach makes some new jokes about her in general and especially about wikipedia. 78.55.74.222 (talk) 21:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: I'm not seeing a WP:BIO pass myself. This not being the German Wikipedia, I suggest that we tend to our own knitting and standards of consensus and notability and leave them to tend to theirs. Ravenswing 20:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- keep: 250,000 result on google, Germanys-next-topmodel, she got own games, she was/is on few shows, and now she is on every(!) news(blog-paper, bla) at germany. ... i think the german-wikipedia got stricter rules. edit:345,000 google-result --217.235.186.195 (talk) 00:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no public notice outside of Germany aside from some private blogs. The conflict in german wikipedia deals with the rule when a sysop is allowed to close a deletion debate, notability was justified with the public interest and yellow press coverage in Germany. I think, that's not enough for enWP. --Siech•Fred Home 18:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There is no such thing like a german or english wikipedia!!! The only difference is the language. So this is the wikipedia in english, the other is the wikipedia in german, but the wikipedias to not belong to a country. A example: if Sarah Knappik would compete in a show like the "Dschungelcamp" in any other country of the world and would get there a media reaction like in Germany, the article has to be relevant in the german language wikipedia, as well as in any other wikipedia. --88.79.92.162 (talk) 17:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: She participated in no less than three reality TV series, modeled for notable companies, and has what appears to be legit coverage. Whether she's famous outside of Germany or not is irrelevant. Mbinebri talk ← 05:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep:Coverage does not have to be beyond the land of origin, but significant. That appears to be the case. Agathoclea (talk) 13:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: As I happen to come from Germany and in addition to this, watched every episode of the show, allow me to explain her person to those of you who don't know her: she was a partipicant of the german leg of American Idol and lost relativly early. After that, she has done nothing of significance. Now she has entered the show I'm a Celebrity and it is highly doubtable that she will win, it is most likely that she will leave the show at this very day. So, the main question is, where does her notability, which is disscused here, come from? That she lost in two shows and happens to have a difficult personality? I don't think that is enough to give her an own article. Aside from that, not every wannabe-celebrity that has an article in a national wikipedia is notable enough to deserve an international article.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 23:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- comment The fact that *everybody* seems to know her chances to win or not to win indicates that there is enough media coverage to establish notability. Is she a worthwhile inclusion ie really important? Not really. "Notability" in the wikipedia sense is a misnomer. Here we think it means the subject of the article is noted - In RL we think the term means "worth noting". There are a lot of of worthwhile articles-subjects we can't include because there are no sources. On the other hand the media seem to have a great interest in subjects of very little worth. That is what we call a 'celebrity'. And 'celebraties' are notable in the wikipedia sense. Agathoclea (talk) 08:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: Maybe she is not relevant but the Wikipedia entry itself, a strange phenomenon. -- Polluks ★ 18:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Coverage is not significant. There was coverage when she was a candidate at the German version of I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!. But now she will be forgotten like other former members of this reality television game show who were not famous before. --Yoda1893 (talk) 10:21, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 22:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Camden Steamer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Never thought I'd say this...but Non-notable soup CTJF83 chat 17:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete : I couldn't find any google hits (nonetheless reliable sources) that weren't affiliated with Wikipedia for this item.LedRush (talk) 17:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Something like this would have least some blogs or forums mentioning it. I can find no sources, reliable or unreliable that discuss this soup. -- Whpq (talk) 17:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete I too was unable to find any sources whatsoever. Not notable. Cullen328 (talk) 20:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Jennifer Adams' and Melissa Barlow's 101 Things to Do with Cheese simply calls this "Tomato Cream Cheese Soup", and doesn't mention anything about chefs or tailgates. Mary Anne Richards' Favourite Recipes of America has several recipes involving tomato soup and cream cheese, and that was published in 1966. I doubt the accuracy of pretty much everything claimed in this article. Uncle G (talk) 21:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable at best, possible hoax. No sources, relaible or otherwise seem to support this. Edward321 (talk) 14:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. If more sources "comes to light" we can reconsider but this is a BLP and it can't be in article space without them. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:18, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Not notable. Yutsi Talk/ Contributions 17:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - No coverage in reliable sources, and the album that he supposedly best known for has no coverage either. -- Whpq (talk) 17:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - no indicators for any notability. Dewritech (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: unsourced and fails WP:Music. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 09:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note to Admin: On Jan 21, an anon altered the AFD notice in the article to point to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roland Savage causing one editor to place their comments in the wrong place. I have copied the comments below. I don't know of that page should be immediately deleted or what should be done with it. I have corrected the AFD notice in the article to point here. -- Whpq (talk) 12:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Since you already copied the only comment on that AfD over here, I placed a G6 speedy tag on it and removed it from the 24 January log (where I stumbled across it in the first place). —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There is a Peter Savage who produces music which could be an evolution of the music described in this article. see http://www.last.fm/music/Peter+Savage/absence+of+presence . There is no link to this person listed so he may be reclusive and hard to find. That would tally with comments made in support of delletion but I think mitigates against deletion as more information may come to light to verify the page. So maybe hold off deletion?? Martinationaustralia (talk) 10:28, 22 January 2011 (UTC) — Martinationaustralia (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 22:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The Outliers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Not notable, almost all links are red links. Yutsi Talk/ Contributions 17:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - This is an unsigned band that is kicking around with local gigs with absolutely no coverage whatseover in reliable sources. Arguably could have gone via speedy deletion. -- Whpq (talk) 17:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete No evidence whatsoever that they meet WP:BAND criteria. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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No coverage outside of the social media press. All references are promotional puff pieces. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 08:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable. Wickedjacob (talk) 08:34, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per WP:N Burhan Ahmed | Penny for your thoughts? 14:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Not every fansite is the black plague. The site has enough Google hits and widespread followers to establish notability. My suggestion is to trim the article from overly promotional and overly long appraisal quotes and add some reliable sources, such as this one from TechCrunch or this one from Mashable. Also, I don't see how statistical data from Alexa can be considered a "promotional puff piece".
- Small comment: without even having to dig deep, it was enough for me to click on the news link located next to "find sources", to get a handful of recent articles from ABC Online, Newsweek, USA Today, several local state newspapers and major foreign language press outlets. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 04:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- ABC Online: They're just crediting fanpop for sourcing the image (I can't see how this could be the original source, but okay)
- Newweek: ""I want him to take me to prom, but after that, the next move is his," gushes fan Dottie, 17, on Cera's FanPop.com Web page. "All hail Michael Cera!"" - this isn't coverage of fanpop
- USA Today: Briefly mentions that a teenager uses the site.
- I've been through every result (there are only four pages). Apart from the Sacramento one (which is a promotional piece from 2006) there is no actual coverage of Fanpop. They are brief mentions that don't satisfy Wikipedia:Notability. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 05:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- In this article from USA Today, Fanpop.com is used to set an example of a large network. This is not a "brief mentioning of a teenager", but rather a reference to Fanpop.com as a major platform for countless fans to communicate;
- Two full reviews here and here;
- ABC Online uses Fanpop.com as a source here and here;
- Brief or not, this is a major newspaper using Fanpop.com as a source again – this time for a quote;
- There are numerous sources in foreign languages, such as Spanish (with domain extensions spread all over Europe and multiple South American countries), Italian, German, Polish, Slovakian, etc. This establishes worldwide notability as well, i.e. Fanpop.com is also notable outside of the English-speaking circle (which is not that small by itself). Hearfourmewesique (talk) 16:24, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I urge anybody viewing this debate to go to each of the above examples and do a search on the pages for fanpop. Really not mentions that show notability. The exception is your examples in 2, but if you think that's independent coverage and not promotion you're being a bit naive. The non-English links are just social networking detritus. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 20:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- All your personal opinion, completely irrelevant to Wikipedia's interests. Interestingly enough, you created this deletion proposal in a very convenient timing – to justify your earlier comment that it's a "poor source". This Wikipedia essay should explain it all; your arguments are all forced and the other two editors are simply waving policy names. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 05:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I found a bunch of fanpop spam, and that led me to discover the article which I noticed was a deletion candidate. Deal with it, and stop focusing on editors instead of content. My opinions match those set out in WP:NOTABILTY and WP:RS. If I aired my opinions with no respect to guidelines they would sound more like "let's delete this awful spam on sight". Wenttomowameadow (talk) 12:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, "spam" is your opinion. Please, let's stop right here and let uninvolved editors chime in. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 16:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That's my point; "Pah, this is just useless spam" would be my opinion, which is why I'm not putting that forward as an argument. The argument I am putting forward is based in policy. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 19:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- All your personal opinion, completely irrelevant to Wikipedia's interests. Interestingly enough, you created this deletion proposal in a very convenient timing – to justify your earlier comment that it's a "poor source". This Wikipedia essay should explain it all; your arguments are all forced and the other two editors are simply waving policy names. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 05:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I urge anybody viewing this debate to go to each of the above examples and do a search on the pages for fanpop. Really not mentions that show notability. The exception is your examples in 2, but if you think that's independent coverage and not promotion you're being a bit naive. The non-English links are just social networking detritus. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 20:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep and improve: Fanpop is a highly trafficked website and, in some ways, part of the new social media. There are some aspects of the article as it is presently written that are not important enough for inclusion in an encyclopedia in my view, such as the breakdown of most popular clubs, but that does not mean that there should be no Fanpop article on Wikipedia. In a lot of ways, Fanpop has become an online hub for supporters of various fandoms, people, and entities, and as such, is wholly notable for its service as a vehicle to aid in this commingling. I concede that Fanpop will probably never become as prominent as MySpace or Facebook, but it's certainly notable enough for at the very least a few paragraphs on Wikipedia. There is a case to be made here for improvement, but the case to nuke this article just falls short in my book. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 02:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you find any coverage of it showing notability though? Who says that it's a prominent online hub? 03:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wenttomowameadow (talk • contribs)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 16:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete the above seems to argue that we should keep it because it's popular, but the Alexa rank (which is currently 1,183) simply isn't impressive enough that it should be kept on that basis alone. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess you've missed my detailed listing of sources with extended explanations. Please read the entire thread and reply. Thank you. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 04:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess you missed where Wenttomowameadow pointed out exactly what was wrong with your supposed "sources". While we're at it, Fanpop seems to have fallen in Alexa rank since the 22nd, so if anything I'm even more convinced than ever. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I only have one further comment to make. I would recommend that all in favor of deleting this article, as well as the AfD closing administrator, take a 10-minute field trip over to the actual website to judge it firsthand (if you have not done so already). Yes, such an excursion would do nothing about the issue of media coverage, but it could aid in the overall determination of whether Fanpop is something worth having a Wikipedia article for or not. As I've said earlier, it certainly seems major enough for encyclopedic mention in my book. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 07:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Us judging it for ourselves is absolutely the worst way to approach this. It's third-party coverage that counts; please at least gloss over Wikipedia:NOTABILITY. Wenttomowameadow (talk) 09:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. merge is only an option if there is decent sourcing and this is a delete because there isn't Spartaz Humbug! 03:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Article fails WP:NOTABILITY. Has a few links but they seem to be press releases and self-published.Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopaedia article. Hu12 (talk) 16:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I have actually cited Ultimate Motorcycling in articles in the past, but I've lost confidence in their independence. I tried to find news articles about them, and came up only with press releases. This press release claims they are the #1 US streetbike magazine web site according to Alexa.com, which might be a claim to notability. Something called FishbowlLA blogged in response. My take is that the list of top 10 Alexa traffic rankings for US streetbike magazines is not considered notable by independent media to a degree that would meet the criterion at the top of WP:WEB "The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself". I don't think the Alexa ranking is a "well-known and independent award from either a publication or organization". A merge into Robb Report#Other publications wouldn't be a travesty. --Dbratland (talk) 00:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge as suggested by Dbratland. Brianhe (talk) 03:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 22:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I cannot find sufficient sources to show that the basic requirements for biographies are met. The only source which could provide notability is this but I do not think this is sufficient. Unless extra, independent sources can be found, which directly discuss the subject, this should be deleted. SmartSE (talk) 15:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per nom. Dewritech (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Fails WP:AUTHOR and his titles fail WP:BK. Qworty (talk) 02:30, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Author of several non-notable books, founder of a non-notable company. Floramicus, the publisher of his trade book, does not appear to have ever published anything else [6] so it's probably a cover for self-publishing. Derwen, the publisher of the two novels, sounds like a vanity press [7]. Citations are mostly self-referential. --MelanieN (talk) 17:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. actual merge target can be changed as soon as there is some clarity on where it fits - article talk would be best place to decide that. Spartaz Humbug! 03:30, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Contested PROD - Fails WP:GNG - OK, so a number of states use circular highway shields... doesn't mean there needs to be an article on it. Admrboltz (talk) 06:22, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. As article creator, I created that hot mess back before I knew project space existed. It should have been redirected to a subpage of WP:USRD, but instead it became what it is. –Fredddie™ 06:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Numbered highways in the United States. The concept of the circular highway shield can be covered under the bullet point "State Highways" in the article. Dough4872 04:17, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 15:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete There is exactly one non-trivial piece of info on here and it could be dropped on the article on state numbered roads without needing a link to find it. Mangoe (talk) 21:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Highway shield. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect per Dough4872. --Cyclopiatalk 15:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It should be noted that highway shield is already caught up in a complicated merge/rename discussion. Mangoe (talk) 15:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 03:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Minor author with no evidence of notability. The only source is a local newspaper, where the main reason for mentioning him seems to be that he is a "local" author. I know people of no notability at all who have received this much local press coverage. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Watson's novel Talking in Whispers seems to have garnered enough attention to merit an article per WP:NBOOK criteria #4, as Google books shows that it is used in many curricula. Perhaps the article could be rewritten with an emphasis on the book, with the author's biograpical information retained? It would then need to be moved to the new title "Talking in Whispers". Note that this is simply a suggestion, I have no strong inclination towards keeping or deleting the article. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 16:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Talking in Whispers is his most famous book but his other work has also received significant coverage. See for example the "Authorgraph" profile and interview in Books for Keeps 58 (September 1989).[8] (As explained at the Books for Keeps website, "Authors selected for ‘Authorgraphing’ usually have a considerable publishing track-record and reputation."[9].) See also the several reviews listed by Tassedethe in the first Afd.--Arxiloxos (talk) 17:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep per Talking in Whispers and other works,and its coverage.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Amazon.com doesn't even sell most of his books [10], minor author and hardly any independent coverage other than a small town seemingly trying to promote itself (this is like claiming a local league sport is notable because the local newspaper covers it). WikiManOne (talk) 23:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Talking in Whispers (1983) is listed (and given an extensive page-long discussion) as one of the critic Julia Eccleshare's 1001 Children's Books You Must Read Before You Grow Up (Cassell, 2009). This establishes WP:NOTABILITY as a significant children's author. The Freedom Tree (1976) is also widely reviewed. A profile of the author with a critical assessment of his career to date was included in Something about the author, vol 10, p. 192 (Gale Research, 1976), confirming independent assessment of his notability in this field, even then. Jheald (talk) 19:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The article itself provides evidence of notability. Just because it isn't on Amazon is hardly compelling. A lot of books - particularly older ones or those in the pre-internet age - aren't available on Amazon. In any event, some of his books are available on Amazon: http://amzn.to/gIowaw. Moreover, the fact that his work has won or been nominated for notable awards is further evidence of notability.Agent 86 (talk) 00:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 22:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Unremarkable song. No references (youtube not valid). No significant coverage. — Timneu22 · talk 14:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, no coverage. CTJF83 chat 17:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per nom. Dewritech (talk) 18:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I'd say speedy delete viz WP:CRYSTAL: the song isn't even released yet. SteveStrummer (talk) 05:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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No indications that this record label rises to the notability requirements of WP:ORG. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete No evidence of notability, and also rather promotional in character. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - some Gnews hits indicates that this label seems to obtain some relevance for this special kind of music; so it may meet WP:ORG. Dewritech (talk) 18:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Rather than just indicating that there are "some Gnews hits", it would be more helpful if Dewritech could actually provide individual links that he believes constitute significant coverage. None of the Gnews hits I found pass the level of "mention in passing". WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:48, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - there seems to be few independent sources (among a ton of false positives) so I'm not sure it's actually notable.
However, in its present form, it is nothing but a large amount of spam.Thus, if it's actually notable, it should be incubated until it is writtenwithout spamin a non-promotional fashion with proper sources. ETA: after verification, what I thought were external links were actually just misformatted Wikilinks. Still, doesn't solve the notability and promotion issues.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply] - Delete: Once one winnows out the G News hits to remove the chaff, you're left with 100% "Soandso's next CD is being released on the Traditional Crossroads label." This doesn't remotely close passing the GNG - where's the subject being discussed in "significant detail?" - or any other notability criteria. Ravenswing 21:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy delete - Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I think this might be a hoax. I searched for this study, and found nothing. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Lack of references means this extreme claim fails verifiability, a core policy of Wikipedia. The claims , on the surface, seem likely to be a hoax. Even if some journal article was the basis for the claims, not every finding from a journal article is notable enough for an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia does not mirror the content of tens of thousands of journal articles every month. If the claims were an established fact, solidly referenced to reliable sources, then it could be added to the article Bird flight. Edison (talk) 14:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Oh give me a break. Parrots can live 100 years and they flap their wings a lot. Hummingbirds would not even live one year if this "theory" was correct. Borock (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Probable hoax. Even if the 'Scottish birdwatching association' exists it does not commission noteworthy research. There is the British Trust for Ornithology which does. The best hoaxes are ones which mimic references to genuine bodies and real research. The writer has probably laid a bet on how long it can stay in Wikipedia before somebody spots it. AJHingston (talk) 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Certain hoax One flap per second is 3600/hour. Article claims bird dies after 10000 flaps = 3 hours. Absurd. I've tagged it db-hoax and blanked the content. EEng (talk) 17:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete. There is literally nothing left in the article now but maintenance templates. Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 18:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I wanted to speedy it, but I wasn't certain whether the person had meant to type more zeros. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - the faster the better! Dewritech (talk) 18:44, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Chloe Traicos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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A nice PR blurb written by the subject's PR. Fails WP:NPOV, sources are distinctly trivial, language is non-neutral. As far as I can tell the primary purpose of this article is promotion of the subject. Guy (Help!) 13:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete She does not seem to be notable yet. Steve Dufour (talk) 13:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per nom. Dewritech (talk) 18:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Notability is almost entirely based on connections to other people.--Dmol (talk) 21:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Fails WP:ENTERTAINER. Qworty (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep She gets significant coverages in major newspapers. She has also won a notable award. And she received praise for her work at a film screened at a notable awards show. I added references for all of this into the article. Dream Focus 09:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per almost everyone above. Possibly notable someday but apparently not yet. There also appears to be some self-promotion going on. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete fails WP:BIO. 3 gnews hits doesn't cut it. LibStar (talk) 12:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: fails WP:ENTERTAINER. She has not "won a notable award" -- she merely won "Best Director (Documentary)" -- one of dozens of minor awards in one of six festivals the New York International Independent Film & Video Festival held in 2005. News coverage is slim, with only a single piece in each of the Zimbabwean and the SMH counting as non-trivial. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 08:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - Fails WP:ENTERTAINER. SnottyWong gab 22:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- KEAS Control Systems India Pvt. Ltd. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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The article fails to make a case against the criteria of WP:ORG. Non-trivial independent reliable sources showing impact on the historic record have not been found. Unfortunately the article creator (who is employed by the same company, see user page) has persisted in removing improvement notices, speedy deletion tags and a PROD so raising for wider discussion. Fæ (talk) 11:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- I have added reliable newspaper articles to improve notability. I'm still working on the article and i need more time. Thanks Suraj (talk) 11:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - the coverage in the cites is not substantial, and I found one dead link. I am sure that the author is well-meaning, but I suggest that he review WP:COI. It this company is truely notable, list it as a wanted article, and let someone else come along, research it and write the article. In general, it is very difficult to assess India-based companies because most AfD participants are not familiar with India-based media. However, even giving this article the benefit of the doubt, I do not see substantial coverage. Racepacket (talk) 13:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete You can have all the time you want, working offline after the article's deleted, to add notability cites and then resubmit. In the meantime, this company is not notable even if all claims in the article are true. EEng (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete fails WP:ORG and WP:N. Rabbabodrool (talk) 20:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete does not meet WP:COMPANY. The coverage added is not indepth and substantial. Suraj, for an indian company to pass our notability standards, we usually need multiple indepth articles in media outlets like ET, business line, business world, cnbc etc. Even BSE/NSE listed companies have failed to meet our notability guidelines before. It is possible that your company has had such coverage. Move the article to your userspace, add them and then resubmit.--Sodabottle (talk) 08:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Nothing in Google scholar or books with this phrase, which leads me to wonder if it's all publicity for the company named in the lead. Part of a family of related articles. Dougweller (talk) 11:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. As for the family of articles around it, the Smirnov bio might be worthy of an article as a notable fringe scientist. Yakushima (talk) 11:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. One of group of articles created about Northam Technologies product by SPA. The company itself is not notable, with a passing mention in Wired and a lot of press release material. Jonathanwallace (talk) 12:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Besides the objections given above, there's more. The originator of these articles explained h/self at Doug's talk-page: the following's an excerpt: "Much of the information available on the technologies themselves are not published as they are still in testing phases with homeland security. I'm just trying to make as much of the information public." So, if no reliable, third-party published sources are likely, there seems no leeway for even a provisional "keep". Without wishing to stray too far from this particular deletion proposal, similar problems seem to attend the "rest of the nest"; Smirnov excepted, perhaps, as per Yakushima (above). Haploidavey (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as spam, the only sources mentioning it are the the company website it's promoting.--Misarxist 17:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: a combination of WP:OR and self-promotional WP:SELFPUB. No indication of significant coverage (or even vestigial coverage) in independent reliable sources. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 17:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no independent coverage. This and related articles look like components of a PR blitz on behalf of Northam Psychotechnologies. - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment Google Scholar, available from the third link on the AfD template finds just one of the references (Shevrin and Smith “Average Evoked Response and Verbal Correlates . . . “, , Psychophysiology, vol. 8, No. 2, 1971.) to be cited by 33 other scientific articles. Dixon's reference, the very first one, is cited by 475 other scientific articles. Scholar is also relevant to the related AfD, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Semantic Mediated Analysis of Responses and Teaching. Anarchangel (talk) 16:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I see that Shevrin's paper and Dixon's text are listed among the article's "further reading" list. Do these materials specifically address "SSRM Tek", or is it a case where SSRM Tek proponents are citing them as an orientation to the general area of their technology? That could make a big difference. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Minehead F.C. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Very very minor provincial amateur football team, no sources. Guy (Help!) 10:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - the club may play at a very minor level now, having fallen on hard times, but in their heyday back in the 70s they played in the Southern League Premier Division, which at the time nestled right below The Football League in the English football league system and is easily a notable level of football -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Can't really add much more to what ChrisTheDude stated. The club has reached the first round proper of the FA Cup on several occasions.[11] Number 57 13:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - notability is not temporary. GiantSnowman 14:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per all above bar the nominator. Satisfies notability criteria.--Michig (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – Per first few commenters. They appear to have once played at a high enough level to be considered notable. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – Maybe at a low level now but it's not all about now. The 70s did happen!--Egghead06 (talk) 09:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Snow Keep - not much else to say, except they once finished just one place below the professional Football League. Bettia (talk) 10:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - per WP:NTEMP. J Mo 101 (talk) 22:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Bloody Mary of Duquesne (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Non-notable local urban legend. Dmol (talk) 09:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- PS - possible hoax.--Dmol (talk) 10:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No ghits whatever except this article. Jonathanwallace (talk) 12:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- PS - possible hoax.--Dmol (talk) 10:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Interesting reading, but unsourced and typical of many campuses. Racepacket (talk) 13:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It is full of "According to the legend.." without a single reference. Fails notability and verifiability. Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day or for classic ghost stories instantiated at a particular school. Edison (talk) 15:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Interesting read, but not the stuff encyclopedias are made of. May even be a copy vio from somewhere. --Kudpung (talk) 19:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Full of not much and empty of reliable sources. Five Years 13:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Either a hoax or a local version of the same "dead student returns as ghost" urban legend that exists at every school in the universe. The zero Google hits and use of several full proper names suggests a hoax, but who cares really, it's not article material either way. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Failed PROD. PROD reason was "Unsourced, does not appear to be any sources on google search, does not appear notable." Decline reason was "albums by notable musicians are notable"
I disagree with the decline, as while that might be a rule of thumb, it does not trump the demand for sources, of which there are none. Sven Manguard Wha? 06:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non notable album as notability is not inherited, also no reliable sources found. Mattg82 (talk) 15:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete all. Courcelles 22:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1114 AH. Apparently, this whole scheme isn't speedy-deletable per that consensus, so I'm nominating the remaining articles here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Convert to navigation pages If people pop these into the search box, something should exist to direct them to the year articles that we have on Wikipedia. To that end I propose these all redirect to a navigation page containing a list of every year AH that exists, and it's start and end dates in AD, and every year AD for the period that AH exists, with start and end dates in AH. As AH is a lunar calendar, there is no simple math formula that can be used, the start and end dates shift relating AH to AD every single year. 65.93.14.196 (talk) 06:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect the AH pages with little or no added content to the corresponding century articles. The century articles can contain information by year in a list format, and they allow the reader to see more information in its historical context. Those years that have a significant level of detail can be forked back out into separate AH articles.—RJH (talk) 16:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The problem I see with this approach is that the content of these articles is restricted to Islamic events. This is no more appropriate than a list of centuries AD restricted to Christian events. Islamic events can be incorporated into the BCE/CE articles, just as non-Islamic events are. As they are written, this is a collection of 200+ articles of the form "List of Islamic-related events in the year X AH" and we just don't need that. (As evidence that we don't need it, most of the articles are blank except for section headers, amounting to empty lists.) YardsGreen (talk) 07:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment—As I see it, Islamic events are more closely interrelated to each other than non-Islamic events. Hence it is logical to group them together. Sorry but I'll have to disagree and my preference remains the same.—RJH (talk) 16:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The problem I see with this approach is that the content of these articles is restricted to Islamic events. This is no more appropriate than a list of centuries AD restricted to Christian events. Islamic events can be incorporated into the BCE/CE articles, just as non-Islamic events are. As they are written, this is a collection of 200+ articles of the form "List of Islamic-related events in the year X AH" and we just don't need that. (As evidence that we don't need it, most of the articles are blank except for section headers, amounting to empty lists.) YardsGreen (talk) 07:12, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete I agree with the following comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1114 AH by Paul McDonald:
JamesBWatson (talk) 09:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]There is no encyclopedic reason to have a separate page for every possible unit of measure conversion on a numeric scale. If there is a reason that this particular time period is of importance, then YES by all means (say, something of significance about the time period 1114 AH). But I don't see that in the article.
- Delete This isn't notable.V7-sport (talk) 21:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Whoa That is a massive list. I agree with the consensus to delete at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1114 AH, and that should extend to all of these articles as well. But with so many articles, I'd like to first make sure that any notable information in any of them is already duplicated at the corresponding Gregorian pages. YardsGreen (talk) 06:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Review Of the ~200 articles listed, only 82 have any information at all. I am reviewing these one by one to see if the information is duplicated at the Gregorian page, but it is time-consuming. Much of the information is not duplicated, so I am duplicating the easiest info as I go. I am tracking my progress on my user page, but I will soon need to stop for the night. I believe the large amount of information in the AH articles that is not in the CE articles strengthens the case for deletion. As I read the articles, it feels like there are two separate Wikipedias here, one Islamic, the other not. That should not be the case. YardsGreen (talk) 09:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect - if it is easy, I would have no objection to redirecting to the corresponding article for that time period. Racepacket (talk) 13:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately it isn't so easy, as they each overlap more than one year/century in the other calendar, so tree is no single suitable redirect target. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Contested prod. Worthy topic, but this is an unsalvageable piece of unreferenced original research that reads more like a newspaper editorial on current events than like what we'd expect from an encyclopedia. Delete and restart from scratch. Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 02:40, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - I think it is in need of a complete re-write and adding of sources and categories. But delete, no.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment; all the content there really has to go, it is a mess of OR. But there is probably a lot to write on this subject, particularly in a historical context. --Errant (chat!) 16:39, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A Crime in Argentina article may be appropiate, but nothing in this article can be salvaged for it. The events mentioned would have to be deleted completely, as they are recentism (topics that make it to the main newspaper headlines for a day or two, but will be completely forgotten in a decade, a year, and even a month). Besides, it seems to be a coatrack to pass a complain to the mayor Mauricio Macri, meaning a NPOV problem, and perhaps a BLP as well. As it is, this article should be deleted MBelgrano (talk) 22:44, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete without prejudice. Although I would prefer to see Crime in Argentina, I would not object to a complete re-write with sources. Until then, it appears to fail V, OR, and NPOV. Location (talk) 00:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete as per MBelgrano. The article is an essay. Kudpung (talk) 07:54, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 13:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The article does not provide reliable, independent sources to show that the subject company meets the notability standards of WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Hi NawlinWiki, It does provide independent sources from the organizations the company is a member of, PPAI, ASI Central etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palconit (talk • contribs) 22:32, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. If the sources are derived from organizations of which the subject is a member, then the sources would not be considered independent of the subject. Cind.amuse 06:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Weak Keep Don't really get it, but it seems notable in its field and its awards won do not seem insignificant. Wickedjacob (talk) 07:00, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. "Seeming notable", really doesn't cut it. Notability criteria for corporations requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Awards won do not signify or solidify notability. Cind.amuse 06:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Notability criteria for corporations requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Unfortunately, the sources used do not meet the definition of reliable or independent. Cind.amuse 06:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. I'm finding some gnews hits that appear to be significant coverage including this and this. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. There doesn't seem to be sources so,,, Spartaz Humbug! 03:34, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable film per my Google search; a selection to the little-known Syracuse International Film Festival does not confer sufficient notability. Perhaps just a case of WP:TOOSOON. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per WP:TOOSOON#Films. It exists. It was screened. But so far, that's all we can confirm. Let it get wider release and some coverage... then a return of the article might be considered. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-notable. The film does not meet any of the criteria set out in WP:NF nor WP:N. Big Bird (talk • contribs) 16:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I think this is an over-strict application of what are, essentially, guidelines and not iron-clad zero-tolerance rules. The film-maker certainly is notable, meriting an article himself, and several of the cast have extensive credits listed on imdb. It seems a little North-American-centric to be deleting this. Agent 86 (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- As for the filmmaker being "certainly" notable, his article bio that he "merits" appears to have been written by the subject himself and I can find no reliable sources verifying his notability. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to List of Decepticons. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable fictional character, no reliable sources, and none of the non-reliable sources are even about the character. Black Kite (t) (c) 19:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom. BE——Critical__Talk 20:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge List_of_Transformers:_The_Headmasters_characters#Decepticons the series he's from. Mathewignash (talk) 21:12, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete no third person sources. Dwanyewest (talk) 19:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Not a true statement. There are third party sources. So ignore this vote. Mathewignash (talk) 21:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete. no 3d-person sources. So he's O-U-T. Got it? Pillhead Maddox (talk) 22:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- The above editor should probably be ignored. He joined on the 15th, and on the 16th he started voting in deletion nominations and posting on the Transformer wikipedia project page. Most likely a sock puppet from any of the various puppeteers menacing the project. 198.51.174.5 (talk) 18:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, it's a sock puppet. Mathewignash (talk) 21:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - Non-notable, lack of reliable sources.--KorruskiTalk 12:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no third-party sources. Only sources are published by business partners of the creators which isn't enough to WP:verify notability. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no reliable sources, is "sourced" to things that attempt to list every Transformer. For example, the first reference is a toy price guide. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Subject appears to not meet WP:GNG Bhtooefr (talk) 17:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. The notes in article do not consitute reliable or independent coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. The closest I found to a reliable source was this post in The Unofficial Apple Weblog, which is unsubstantial. Apple Disk Transfer doesn't satisfy WP:GNG either, or else I'd suggest merging there. --Pnm (talk) 02:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Unreferenced BLP of unestablished notability. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 17:27, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Speedy delete, this was an unreferenced BLP and still is. coccyx bloccyx(toccyx) 00:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Speedy delete as unreferenced BLP.--KorruskiTalk 12:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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This publishing company has had barely any coverage in reliable third-party sources. The BBC reference in the article only mentions the publisher as a side-note at the bottom of the page. The rest of the references are either broken or belong to the company itself. The company hasn't even published any works notable enough for an article on Wikipedia. This article should have been deleted on one of the previous two AfDs, but hopefully third time's the charm! – PeeJay 17:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - firstly, what right does the nominator have to say "This article should have been deleted on one of the previous two AfDs" - one was a clear keep and the other was no consensus. I hate to accuse anyone of sour grapes, but that's what this looks like, as on each previous occasion the nominator "voted" for delete. Secondly, the BBC article is about the collective's most important publication. You say "the article only mentions the publisher as a side-note" - that may be true, but the whole article is about "In That Number" which is referred to as "a significant work of football reference in its own right". If this AfD succeeds, most of the publication houses in Category:Book publishing companies of the United Kingdom will also have to be deleted on the same grounds. Of the first four in that category, only one has any independent references. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 17:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- If the BBC article is about the publication, then the publication should have an article, not the publisher. There's nothing notable about this publishing company, as proven by the complete lack of references that deal specifically with the company itself. – PeeJay 00:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - I know I !voted "delete" on the last AfD, but there has been no community consensus to delete this article after two AfDs, and Daemonic Kangaroo makes a valid argument for keeping. GiantSnowman 13:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Does he though? Like I said above, the BBC story used in the article only mentions Hagiology once, and if the book "In That Number" is that significant a football reference, maybe it should have an article instead. – PeeJay 07:04, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - the reliable sources given are about books, not the publisher. They mention Hagiology only in passing.--KorruskiTalk 12:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Sorry, I'm with Peejay. Notability is not transferable, and if this publisher does not meet the GNG or WP:ORG on its own merits, then it should be deleted or merged to the appropriate article. Speaking of merits, can we judge this AfD on them, and not on whether the nom's daring to diss the previous consensus or whether other publishing house articles may or may not be at risk? WP:AGF, please. Ravenswing 21:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Four independent sources, yes, but none of them devotes more than two sentences to the publisher itself. The reviews could be used to establish notability for the individual books - In that number might even justify an article - but Hagiology would appear to fail WP:ORG by a very long way. Alzarian16 (talk) 18:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment As the wind seems to be blowing towards deletion, can I suggest that the article content is trimmed and merged into the Southampton FC article, with the Hagiology article becoming a redirect, especially bearing in mind the large number of redlinks that deletion would cause. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply: Cleaning up those links with AWB or a similar engine would take about 90 seconds, truth be told. Is there any reason to believe that this is all that likely a term for searches? Ravenswing 14:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment As the wind seems to be blowing towards deletion, can I suggest that the article content is trimmed and merged into the Southampton FC article, with the Hagiology article becoming a redirect, especially bearing in mind the large number of redlinks that deletion would cause. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 03:39, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Per WP:OR and Not dictionary, article seems to an attempt list Irish (Gaelic) names for annual events Gnevin (talk) 12:21, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 11:34, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep The article has a lot of useful information. It just needs someone to provide the sources. Keraunos (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - the excess of Gaelic names can be edited out, and the dearth of citations can be edited in, by the normal editing process. Those are not reasons to delete. Bearian (talk) 20:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Can people explain what this is about, I'm entirely lost Gnevin (talk) 00:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It should make clear that this is based on our old pre-Norman and pre-Christian calendar (such as we still know of it), and is not used today. Of course that wouldn't stop anyone printing it up for the Irish-American market.Red Hurley (talk) 11:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Isn't this (pre-Christian at least) covered in Celtic calendar? Finn Rindahl (talk) 12:03, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I see no references to this hybrid form ever being in use, DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. Needs improvment in the introduction, but otherwise acceptable.--Dmol (talk) 06:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - I improved the intro to give context -- The Irish calendar is a pre-Christian Celtic system of timekeeping used during Ireland's Gaelic era to define the beginning and length of the day, the week, the month, the seasons, quarter days, and festivals.-- The Irish calendar is one of many calendars that go into making up the Celtic calendar and is not the Irish Calendar (upper case "C" calendar) used by Irish hagiologists to study ecclesiastical and secular leaders (took me about 45 minutes to figure all this out). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep it could be useful to readers; especially those researching various dating systems.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep The article can only be improved. Besides, there is no good reason for deletion. SanchiTachi (talk) 18:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per the comments above. ~Asarlaí 20:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Kenneth Eng (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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This article had been deleted twice pursuant to discussions in 2005 and 2006. The most notable event, obviously, came after (in 2007), but I still believe that this person is not sufficiently notable — WP:15M applies in this case, I think. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 15:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete and salt. Non-notable writer known only for two racist statements. The article itself admits that his books are vanity published, so he fails WP:BK and WP:AUTHOR. Article was already deleted after two previous AfDs. Let's stop wasting our time with this--salt it. Qworty (talk) 19:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Not notable. Jonathanwallace (talk) 12:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not notable. Racepacket (talk) 13:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Ceri Radford (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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No indication that this living person meets Wikipedia:Notability (people). Qwfp (talk) 12:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. The individial in question exists but is Non-notable. Google hits does not yield any significance johnclean184 (talk) 12:11, 14 January 2011 (UTC) — johnclean184 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Unsure. I've never heard of her, but then I don't read the Daily Telegraph. Likewise, there are countless articles in Wikipedia about journalists who seem equally obscure to me. In defence of this article, she does write for a leading national newspaper and, in addition to being a columnist, is also a novelist. That makes her more than just a run-of-the-mill journo. Emeraude (talk) 13:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:Other stuff exists, but that's not relevant here. Her one novel is yet to be published, so doesn't help towards meeting WP:AUTHOR. Qwfp (talk) 15:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment. I'd have thought that someone who has been contributing articles since 2006 would be notable by now, but it's difficult to tell because GNews is dominated by articles by her, when we're looking for articles about her. Any clues? Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 11:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- She's worked mainly for the Telegraph, so the hits there are not independent, and it's possible to remove articles in the Telegraph from GNews Archive, leaving 9 hits that (to my eyes) provide no evidence that she meets WP:BIO. --Qwfp (talk) 12:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not yet notable. Fails WP:AUTHOR. Her book, not yet published, fails WP:BK per WP:CRYSTAL. If the book is published and wins notoriety, then we can recreate the article. Qworty (talk) 19:52, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Fails Wikipedia:Notability (media)#Newspapers, magazines and journals. No independent references. Contested prod. WWGB (talk) 11:33, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Per Wikipedia:Notability (media)#Newspapers, magazines and journals and WWGB. Fearstreetsaga (talk) 20:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Chinriu Honten Limited (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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hints at but does not address notability, recent string of edits by rep of company named in article are suspect as the thing reads as an advert Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:32, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. No reliable third-party to indicate notability. Reads like an advert for the company. --DAJF (talk) 04:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Article written by a member of the group, which has remained unsourced for nearly a year. A Google search fails to turn up any non-trivial third-party coverage, and the organization fails the WP:ORG notability criteria. --DAJF (talk) 09:01, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per non-notable. I tried to find reliable sources, but failed. Oda Mari (talk) 07:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:49, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Not a notable website. Meager coverage at best. Drmies (talk) 05:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -- There is hardly any notability to the website. There is a huge lack of third-party sources and the two clean-up tags have been there for a number of years. No point keeping this here. Joker264 (talk) 05:20, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above arguments. Wickedjacob (talk) 06:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per reasons given. Η936631 (talk) 07:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - length of time on cleanup tags is not a reason to delete a page. As the page content shows, there has been references to the site in mainstream media (NYTimes, ABC News, Jeopardy), any one of which qualifies as a valid external 3rd party source for meeting WP's notability guidelines. SpikeJones (talk) 20:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per WP:WEB. Supposedly existed for a long time but is now defunct and never appears to have been especially notable while it existed. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Confused by what you mean by "defunct"? (a) linked site appears to be still up, running, and updated. (b) And since when is WP only concerned about "current" items? Notability has been established per WP guidelines via coverage and references by recognized 3rd party sources. If the article needs to be cleaned up or added to, that's not a reason to call for deletion. SpikeJones (talk) 03:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Flood (poem) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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The author was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Thomas Abbott (2nd nomination) and I can't find any RS about the poem. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC) The deleted Paul Thomas Abbott mentions this as a source; see Isis magazine. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, not notable. BE——Critical__Talk 20:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Dubious encyclopedic value given its superficial notability, if any. Hard to imagine a poem being notable if its author is not.Agent 86 (talk) 00:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Blade Chord (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Only 26,000 sales seems pretty tiny for a single. And its use in a video game is hardly unusual. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 06:01, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep top 10 hit on the Oricon chart is a sign of notability, but the chart trajectory should go. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:14, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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All of the sources I'm finding are trivial and unreliable. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 06:04, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete no sources with any significant out of universe information exist. Article fails WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:N as many campaign settings for games would. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Claim of notability is an award which is not readily verified and questionable reliability. Unable to locate additional coverage in secondary sources. Pnm (talk) 01:06, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Magnetar. Spartaz Humbug! 03:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The phrase "Quantum electrodynamic threshold" does not appear to be notable. (Google scholar finds only the single use in Scientific American, google books and regular google turn up mostly wikipedia mirrors and circular refs.) Anything useful said about the content of the Scientific American article is already contained in the magnetar article, so there is nothing to merge.TimothyRias (talk) 10:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC) TimothyRias (talk) 10:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. This is just the field strength where relativistic corrections become important.The article is borderline copyvio of the Scientific American article (which is a good read, incidentally). As an aside, we need an article on Schwinger field, if anyone feels up to writing it. - 2/0 (cont.) 23:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Scratch that, relativistic effects become important well below this. This is more like where the interaction energy of an electron bound in a magnetic field becomes stronger than its rest mass (E = ħ*eB/mec exceeds mec2). This looks like it should give a critical field strength, which I suppose could also be called a threshold value. Back of the envelope gives gigatesla, so this is probably what they mean. The atoms deforming bullet happens at any field strength, but it should get really interesting when it goes quasi-two dimensional. I do not see why this would be the same value as above but I may be wrong here.
- I strongly suspect that there is a different name for this critical value, but as the nominator says, it does not appear to be a term in common use. As the article stands, it provides less information than no article would (assuming that the good bits are already at magnetar, I have not checked). Do we have anyone here with a stronger particles/astrophysics background? Pair production for me is just another a power leech and even the Z machine comes nowhere near this, so this particular limit is a bit far afield (har). - 2/0 (cont.) 00:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking around some more, there seems to be at least some literature about the special properties of very strong magnetic fields with a field strength above some critical value. Thusfar, it seems that it is mostly referred as just "BQ" (where I assume the Q stands for quantum), but also "quantum critical field strength" (searching for the last phrase on google scholar and books actually produces some results. I think the best option might be to rename this article, and expand it. One option would be quantum critical field strength, another would be to go for a more descriptive name like ultra-strong magnetic fields.TimothyRias (talk) 09:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. This would make an interesting article if somebody would write it up properly. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- I think this can be an interesting enough topic to warrant at least a separate section somewhere. Nergaal (talk) 06:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect to magnetar. --Kkmurray (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What do you suggest be merged to magnetar? And why do you think that this is a sensible redirect? As far as I can tell the phrase "Quantum electrodynamic threshold" has only been used once in, in one article.TimothyRias (talk) 15:43, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I see your point - that has been done and undone already here [13]. A redirect to gauss (unit) where it is mentioned might be better.--Kkmurray (talk) 03:52, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Obvious redirect to wherever. But not notable for its own article per google news and books. BE——Critical__Talk 20:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- List of Islamic University of Indonesia people (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Directory of people, should be deleted as per Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory Travelbird (talk) 03:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, without prejudice to re-creation if articles are eventually created for notable people associated with the university (per other "list of X university people" lists). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - none of these entries are notable or sourced. In the usual List of x university people, the lists are trimmed to remove non-notable people and footnotes demonstrate that they have a connection with x university. Apply the rule here would delete all four names. Racepacket (talk) 13:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete (without prejudice) per Racepacket; there is no point to listing non-notable people associated with a university. If it turns out that there are sufficient notable people verifiably associated with the university, whether faculty or alumni, then the list can either be recreated (well, started again from scratch), but right now it looks like only one of those listed merits an article, so he can simply be listed in the university's own article. Also, any individuals who are verifiably significant to the university though not notable could merely be mentioned in the university's own article. postdlf (talk) 19:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Another absurdly non-notable list that is ripe for parody. Nwlaw63 (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:46, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG, and who in spite of having been on contract with several fully pro teams, has yet to play in a fully pro league. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment - the first nomination is under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leon Crnčič. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - fails both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 14:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, as he fails both WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. --Carioca (talk) 21:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Band fails notability guidelines for musical groups. Awards are nomination only for a young, local festival. Radio play is on a local station. Danger (talk) 04:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Per nom, google has only a few results pertaining to the band. ManishEarthTalk • Stalk 07:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Article appears to be someone's college essay, in tone, organisation, and headings. Purely OR/synthesis, and redundant to the main article linked at top. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:35, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As per WP:NOTESSAY. If possible, we could try to glean some good info from the article and put it in the main article. ManishEarthTalk • Stalk 07:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete We should avoid having two articles on the same subject, and public policy action forms a proper part of the main article. AJHingston (talk) 12:06, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- merge if there is anything of value that can be, otherwise redirect. It seems to me that this title is a useful search term. Thryduulf (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete this is someone's homework. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge Seem to be some points that could enhance the main article, and perhaps the references would be helpful too, but this shouldn't remain an article on its own. Nihola (talk) 02:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:NOT a list of trivia. Article is woefully incomplete and unreferenced. Admrboltz (talk) 03:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Belongs somewhere but probably not in an encyclopedia. Steve Dufour (talk) 04:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- I think to some extent these are examples of synecdoche. postdlf (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and Steve Dufour. Imzadi 1979 → 23:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as trivia. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Interesting list, but too trivial for an encyclopedia article. All this information can be mentioned in the individual articles. Dough4872 22:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. notability clearly isn't there Spartaz Humbug! 03:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Despite the initial press release, this company never formed, and the project they were supposedly working on is long since cancelled. I live in Wellington and work in the industry and can confirm the company does not exist. Chopper Dave (talk) 02:36, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - I do not wish to vote, but I do wish to comment. I feel that you would need need an official reference or source saying that the company is no longer active or was never formed, not just 'your word for it'. According to an IGN artical, the have a game that is currently 'TBA' and is nothing to do with Halo Chronicals. I don't know how often IGN update their pages though, or if it is a reliable source. Skullbird11 (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Understandable, it's hard to prove something doesn't exist :) No phone number in the NZ phonebook, they're not part of the New Zealand Game Developers Association, and there is no mention of them outside speculation for the title and a press release or two. They have no website, and searching '"Wingnut Interactive" Hiring' on google results in no actual hiring ads. They were literally announced as part of a deal, registered, and then never formed. The deal fell through and all that's left is this wiki entry :) Chopper Dave (talk) 04:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Can't find any additional sources besides, as Chopper Dave mentioned, this Wikipedia article and Wikipedia can't be it's own source. -- Jelly Soup (talk) 01:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge - to either MGS or Peter Jackson. Multiple news mentions at Joystiq and Edge, but these are of the "Microsoft announces X" variety. Hmm, apart from Peter Jackson's statement at Comic-Con 2009 [14].Marasmusine (talk) 09:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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fails WP:NALBUMS . also nominating the this song off this EP: Heavy Metal Pirates. LibStar (talk) 02:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. There's this--and Entrepreneur (magazine) has a Wiki article and does not appear to be nothing. But that's one review; the article in The List (magazine) only mentions the title track. Drmies (talk) 02:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Nothing to suggest that this book publisher is notable. Was originally a copyvio spam article, but OTRS permission was received to resolve copyvio issues. Stephen 00:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Maybe no copyvio anymore, but still pretty spammy. There's little to say on the topic, see this search. They have won some award, but it wasn't notable enough apparently to garner interest in the media, and a press release is all there is. Drmies (talk) 01:05, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia is not for lists or repositories of loosely associated topics. The list is also a non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations of unrelated items as well as derived entirely in primary sources. Almost none of the content is even sourced and there is a extraordinaire high chance of original research and synthesis. See also WP:POPCULTURE —Farix (t | c) 00:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. It looks like its all O.R. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 11:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The only real deletion argument I see here is that this is all unsourced OR. "X in popular culture" articles comprise a large and longstanding topic (see extensive contents of Category:Topics in popular culture), many of which have passed through AFDs successfully, and there are many other ones similar to this one in Category:Mythology in popular culture. So I don't think there is anything close to a consensus that this topic constitutes "a non-encyclopedic cross-categorization" (I see it as just a categorization - X in Y) or a "repository of loosely associated topics," and I don't see an explanation here as to why it should be viewed as such. A valid, sourced article on (or list of examples of) Japanese mythology in popular culture is certainly conceivable, so the only question should be whether there is anything salvageable here, or whether it's better to just clear this and start over. postdlf (talk) 16:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Postdlf. I think it can be sourced. I know something about Japanese culture, but I'm no expert. Bearian (talk) 18:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep if cleaned up notable topic for certain, current content is awful though and will need substantial cleanup and perhaps a full rewrite to be viable. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The topic is clearly notable, as a few minutes' searching finds coverage of the influence of Japanese mythology on anime and manga (ISBN 9780812693638, p. 69), horror fiction (ISBN 9780595201815, various pages), Pokémon (ISBN 9780822332879, p. 17), science fiction (JSTOR 4239700) and video games (doi:10.1007/978-1-4020-9949-6, pp. 25–42). As with many of our "in popular culture" articles this one currently just lists examples rather than providing actual encyclopedic content about the subject, but the sources exist to allow that problem to be fixed by editing. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Clearly notable subject.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:35, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to 2019 Asian Games. Almost everybody here agrees that this article should be merged and the target mentioned most frequently is 2019 Asian Games. Whether or not both articles should be merged into something else is a matter for the talk page. Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:CRYSTAL JDDJS (talk) 22:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge: Merge with 2019 Asian Games, just like 2018 FIFA World Cup and 2022 FIFA World Cup bids.
- Merge/Delete, since the bidding and announcement for 2019 and 2023 Asian Games hosts will be done at the same time. then it this article should be deleted or merged with the 2019 Asian Games article. 112.210.227.196 (talk) 01:26, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep: If I understand well, the host cities for both Games, 2019 and 2023, will be announced in April 2011. So why not have two articles for two different Games. Right now we have two different articles for the two World Cups 2018 and 2022. Hektor (talk) 16:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The 2018 and 2022 world cups were only given their own page after the host details had been announced. Before the two were combined in a single article, see 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup bids. Ravendrop (talk) 00:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge. It, along with 2019 Asian Games should be merged into an article along the lines of 2019 & 2023 Asian Games bids much the same way as 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup bids. Only after they are both awarded can they be given their own separate page (again as was the case for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. Ravendrop (talk) 00:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to 2019 & 2023 Asian Games bids with 2019 Asian Games (both should redirect, with {{R from merge}}) As both will be awarded in April, its not really all that soon. 65.93.13.210 (talk) 04:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge: with 2019 Asian Games, deletion of article won't be a valid solution. Bill william compton (talk) 13:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Controversies of the United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006#Allen's Macaca controversy. Spartaz Humbug! 03:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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This is an article about a name which one person was called, maybe two or three times in one year. Yes there are sources, but it seems like it's too minor for an encyclopedia article. Jaque Hammer (talk) 13:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Merge and Redirect to Controversies of the United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006#Allen's Macaca controversy. --Lambiam 19:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Though there is very little info to write about this term, it can be difficult to determine what to redirect it to, and doing so may be controversial per WP:R#HARMFUL. The term was directed against George Allen, but was proclaimed by someone else in an unrelated race. Therefore, I do believe it is best to keep as it's own page, no matter how short. Xyz7890 (talk) 03:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Redeirect as suggested above. Trim various explanatory original research, such as about mother, unless there are refs which link mother to nickname. Xyz7890, which are other plausible redirect targets? Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 01:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to George Allen, is not notable enough for a eaparate article. Jonathanwallace (talk) 12:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Nonnotable term. Edison (talk) 15:40, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not notable at all.
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- Comment I think if anything, if there is an article just on the use of the term Macaca, that could be a target. Also the above two "deletes" should be dismissed as WP:JNN and WP:JUSTAVOTE. I still favor keeping. I don't believe "minor" is a good argument favoring deletion (see WP:USELESS); this article I believe was targeted for deletion simply because it is short. There is no minimum length for an article in order to be worthy of inclusion, and the term is notable after all. Xyz7890 (talk) 05:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is a frequent nickname used for major political figures with new mentions coming up even today on blogs as he announces his new candidacy. This is in addition to numerous mentions during his 2006 round. Here are a few,[15], [16], [17], [18], etc. Must I go on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiManOne (talk • contribs) 22:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Article fails WP:PLOT. It has been redirected three times but has been restored each time without any improvement. The only reference in the article is a ratings figure that is available in List of Fish Hooks episodes so the episode provides nothing more than is available in the main list article, except for a lengthy plot. AussieLegend (talk) 00:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. I agree. Drmies (talk) 01:07, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep seems like a well written plot of a episode. lots of those on wikipedia. i say keep anyway.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is never a valid keep argument in a deletion discussion. WP:PLOT says "Wikipedia articles should not be plot-only description of fictional works.". What policy could possibly justify keeping this article? --AussieLegend (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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fails WP:CREATIVE. gnews confirms that she writes articles as a journalist [19], but nothing about her as the subject. simply cowriting a book doesn't get her over the line either. LibStar (talk) 01:34, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Not independently notable--it can be proven with primary sources that she works for a news outlet, but there is no discussion of her that I could find. Drmies (talk) 01:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No significant bio info. Is the book notable? Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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No evidence of notability. Google search does not seem to provide evidence of notability. LadyofShalott 00:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I just noticed in the article history that someone removed my notability tag claiming "the existence of entry at allmusic.com is enough to show notability". Is this correct? I am dubious that is enough. LadyofShalott 00:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. I don't believe that a brief bio on Allmusic is enough for notability. And it's a brief bio. And there's only one album, not on a notable label, and there's nothing in Google in the way of an in-depth review or article. Note who removed the tag, BTW. Drmies (talk) 01:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - there is some evidence the band has played up and down the East Coast, but I'm not sure that it qualifies them as having toured nationally per WP:MUSICBIO. Bearian (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep - Per minimum achieved WP:MUSICBIO.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:20, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I looked at Bearian's link above, and I am not seeing nontrivial coverage. Bearian, BabbaQ or anyone else, can you give specific examples of nontrivial coverage? LadyofShalott 23:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Squeezeplay (Transformers) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Non-notable fictional character, no reliable sources, as usual Black Kite (t) (c) 19:52, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would generally want this kind of thing deleted, but what about Lee's Guide to Loose 1988 Transformers: The Decepticons. Lee's Toy Review magazine, issue #208, March 2010? BE——Critical__Talk 20:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or Redirect to the Marvel Transformers comic character page. Has some notability. Mathewignash (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Actually List of characters in Transformers comics is only about the characters that aren't Autobot or Decepticon. We really need more character lists. NotARealWord (talk) 13:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Redirect for having sources... but only trivial mentions. Someone could always undo the redirect and expand the article once significant out of universe information were available... allowing this to pass WP:GNG and WP:NOT#PLOT. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete not notable even within the scope of Transformers. Not sure about the redirect, but the current content needs to go and should not be merged. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Why are we tolerating these Transformers articles with sources that have been show to be unreliable. Dwanyewest (talk) 15:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Feel free to voice your opinion on the validity of the nomination, but spare us the complaining. What makes you think they are being "tollerated" when there are dozens being deleted? If they are being "tollerated" then they'd be kept. Mathewignash (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Surprisingly, I actually agree with Ignash. While it's arguable that we made a mistake by not finding these articles sooner, the community cannot reasonably be accused of "tolerating" them. Community consensus against these is as clear as it could ever possibly be. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Harmony House (building design) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Peacock, primary sources, COI, dubious notability. Prod declined because an admin thought there might be sources but I'm not convinced. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 20:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete I couldn't find any independent sources that discuss this specific house in enough depth to establish notability. Cullen328 (talk) 00:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Russell W. Howard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Although this person appears to have been written about in many hip-hop related blogs (and of course on imdb.com), I am completely unable to come up with anything that meets WP:RS to establish notability. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Unable to find significant independent coverage to establish notability. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 11:27, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. passing mentions do not count towards establishing notability Spartaz Humbug! 03:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oleg Frish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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I don't see how this person is notable. Apparently, according to the one (Russian-language) source provided for this BLP, he is one of the most famous men in America, but this is belied by the paucity of hits in Google News. I'm willing to state that Carrot Top is more famous. Drmies (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment I began addressing some of grandeous verbiage of the article.[20] Aside from the one source offered, I found another under the name Oleg Frish... a rather lengthy article and interview of the subject from 2004 in Люди... a Russian version of People.[21] )(translation) and there is actually enough in this longer article to source much of the article... but one does not build a house with only one brick. So I looked further... under the Russian spelling of his name, Олег Фриш and found 3 unfathomable book sources,[22] and 3 more google news sources... minsk.by,[23] Русское радио,[24] and newsru.com.[25] And while a regular google search under his Amercican name brings back a bit over 1,000 hits,[26] a similar search under his Russian name brings back over 3 thousand results,[27] So he may be more notable in Russian than he is in English. Translators? --Schmidt,
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- Comment The number of Google hits is irrelevant in an AFD. Please check for Google Books and Google News Archive, and then only list reliable and independent sources with substantial coverage. Edison (talk) 15:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. He was recorded at Capitol Studios. So this makes a second brick :-) IMO a sufficient notability for an entertainer. Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 02:01, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That site is "Len Triola Promotional Services, Inc," and is apparently intended to promote the album. It is not relevant to evaluation of notability. Edison (talk) 18:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It has not been demonstrated that he satisfies WP:BIO. Not everyone who records a record at Capitol Studios automatically gets an encyclopedia article. Did Capitol release the record, or was it recorded at Capitol for private distribution? How high did it climb in the popular music charts? Perhaps someone could demonstrate that he also has multiple reliable and independent sources with substantial coverage. Edison (talk) 15:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, you are wrong about Capitol. If it were a single claim for natability, then I would agree with you. But a colleague above mentions that he found significant sources in Russian language. I fail to see why a host of a long-standing TV program and took significant role in some several other shows. is nonnotable. In other words, per WP:BIO/entertainers (Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions), your argument is rebutted. Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 17:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Hosting a TV show does not establish notability, without secondary reliable and independent sources having significant coverage of it. Google hits, whether in English or Russian, cannot prove notability. And you have not responded to the request for documentation that the recording was notable: reviews? Chart success? Your "rebuttal"is insufficient to prove notability. Google News archive search shows one article, in Russian, the Google machine translation to English of which is not convincing as to his notability. Edison (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, you are wrong about Capitol. If it were a single claim for natability, then I would agree with you. But a colleague above mentions that he found significant sources in Russian language. I fail to see why a host of a long-standing TV program and took significant role in some several other shows. is nonnotable. In other words, per WP:BIO/entertainers (Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions), your argument is rebutted. Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 17:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Machine translations are not the preference, however the in-depth article Edison did machine translate,[28] and the other two found that he did not acknowledge,[29][30] act as futher indicators of the GNG being met and of a notability to Russia suitable enough for en.Wikipedia, even with us not having heard of this gentleman in the West. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What is the nonsense about "Did not acknowledge??" Only the one article I cited showed up in Google News Archive search. The first of the articles you found somewhere provides only a passing reference and does not establish notability: (In translation). The second one, which you also found somewhere, just says (in translation): "Resnick: I did not know that this is such a popular channel, called me Oleg Frish, I just talked to him. He said: How do you feel about this? I replied that I am very sorry, and I do not like it. Kirkorov: You have so many years living in America, you are well aware of Frisch and to the station. This is the most popular radio station. Resnick: I never knew it was a popular channel. " Another passing reference, which establishes that Resnick did not know it was a popular radio program. This is your best evidence for notability? Edison (talk) 02:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I will continue to hope for input from Russian Wikipedians with access to sources unavailable online in the West, as where there is even one significant and in depth article found, there may well be more. And even "passing mentions" may be used to per policy properly verify some aspect of a BLP, such as the individual and his show being spoken about and referred to by others... even if negatively. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What is the nonsense about "Did not acknowledge??" Only the one article I cited showed up in Google News Archive search. The first of the articles you found somewhere provides only a passing reference and does not establish notability: (In translation). The second one, which you also found somewhere, just says (in translation): "Resnick: I did not know that this is such a popular channel, called me Oleg Frish, I just talked to him. He said: How do you feel about this? I replied that I am very sorry, and I do not like it. Kirkorov: You have so many years living in America, you are well aware of Frisch and to the station. This is the most popular radio station. Resnick: I never knew it was a popular channel. " Another passing reference, which establishes that Resnick did not know it was a popular radio program. This is your best evidence for notability? Edison (talk) 02:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Nelder Dawson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Although he may have been prominent locally or among his peers, does not meet general notability requirements Wkharrisjr (talk) 16:20, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Da Gryptions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Contested PROD. Rationale was "The subject of the article does not satisfy the criteria listed in WP:BAND. The single independent reference provided is a local/regional newspaper." The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - the article's author (who also appears to be a member of the band) has since provided a significant number of additional sources, although again they seem to be mostly local or regional. Technically speaking, the band still doesn't seem to meet WP:BAND. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - CHARTattack, Treehugger.com, enRoute are all national publications. (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apsobibi (talk • contribs)
- Comment - Evan Cranley and Stephen Ramsay are both musicians of note, so this meets the criteria of point 6 in the WP:BAND --Apsobibi (talk) 1:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC) — Apsobibi (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Delete - remove the unreliable sources from the 'impressive' list, such as blogs, minor websites, and self published material, we are left with a couple of articles in a local newspaper. This is an up and coming band with insufficient history or hard-media releases to have accumulated the required level of notability for a Wikipedia entry. Note that #6 of WP:BAND states may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria' Kudpung (talk) 03:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. I find sufficient coverage of "The Bixi Anthem" to substantiate its notability as an item of Montreal culture. (It's even mentioned in The Guardian[31].) What's not entirely clear to me is whether the band has any notability beyond the one song. I do not favor deleting this article, but (unless there is more coverage of other aspects of Da Gryptions as a band) I wouldn't necessarily oppose a merge/redirect to Bixi#Popular Culture, adding more information to the one sentence now included there.--Arxiloxos (talk) 05:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep per WP:BAND criterion #1 – The coverage is significant enough, and it does include several publications: Chart, Montreal Mirror, and The Gazette. One of The Gazette articles was reprinted in the Regina Leader-Post here. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Paul Erik
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:49, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Bruce Rumbolz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Appears to fail the general notability guideline and WP:ATHLETE. Existing references appear to be either unreliable or trivial in nature, not a discussion of the topic. The exception is this article. I am unable to view the full text, but it appears to be a fairly in-depth discussion by a regional source, but to me this alone doesn't meet the general guideline. A quick Google search didn't turn up anything better. VQuakr (talk) 04:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - passes WP:ATHLETE as demonstrated by this reference. Kugao (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you be more specific about how this reference shows the subject meets WP:ATHLETE? Specifically, the policy says "Listings of statistics must clearly satisfy the requirement for significant coverage." Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 19:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Reference shows he was in more than one title fight and meets WP:ATHLETE. Can you demonstrate that the information is not reliable? Kugao (talk) 19:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not user-generated? That being said, I don't really doubt that he's been in the fights listed there so if they qualify as "professional competition at the highest level" then we're probably done here. VQuakr (talk) 19:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Reference shows he was in more than one title fight and meets WP:ATHLETE. Can you demonstrate that the information is not reliable? Kugao (talk) 19:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Kugao --Emerald gloves (talk) 03:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So can we get the "Article considered for deletion" blocks off the page? :) --Emerald gloves (talk) 03:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Emerald gloves[reply]
- Delete the sources are almost all not third party. lacking third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 23:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Waaaait a minute--see below. Delete--until someone argues that he does meet Wikipedia:Athlete#Generally_acceptable_standards, because I don't see that. Is a title fight for the Brazilian Middleweight title "professional competition at the highest level"? It's certainly not the Olympics. A Google news search for his name reveals plenty of mentions--but basically all of them simply list him as an opponent of someone else, so I don't see how he passes WP:GNG. There are problems enough with the BoxRec website, of course, but even setting those aside, I think we are dealing with a non-notable boxer here. That article, BTW, is pretty bad. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I'd really like someone to weigh in; I'm going to post a note on Wikipedia:Notability/Noticeboard. I don't have a dog in this fight--I don't care if the article is deemed notable, I'd just like to know, esp. since there is no section on boxing at WP:ATHLETE. Closing admin, please don't close it too soon. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- See Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Bruce_Rumbolz. Drmies (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Hugo Sánchez Bonilla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD)
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Lack of sources for notability. I checked LexisNexis (behind a paywall but exhaustive and it found only one piece mentioning his name La Nación (Costa Rica) August 26, 2006). The spanish text can be found at [32], "IMAS recorta presupuesto para fiesta" the relevant text "En el acto participará el presidente Óscar Arias Sánchez, el ministro de Lucha contra la pobreza, Fernando Zumbado, y el artista costarricense Hugo Sánchez Bonilla, quien creó el logo del IMAS en 1972. A este último se le brindará un reconocimiento especial." which google translation gives as "Participate in the event President Oscar Arias Sánchez, the minister for Combating Poverty, Fernando Zumbado, and Hugo Sanchez Bonilla Costa Rican artist who created the logo of the IMAS in 1972. The latter will provide special recognition" IMAS stands for Instituto Mixto de Ayuda Social (Spanish: Joint Social Welfare Institute; Costa Rica)[33]. The only other source I can find is this page [34] for an exhibition at Pennsylvania State University.
There is no article for him on the Spanish language wikipedia. I checked without finding a single mention of him on the following paywalled databases: "Art Retrospective:Index of abstracts from art periodicals published throughout the world" and "ARTbibliographies Index of literature on modern and contemporary art, photography and design." LittleHow (talk) 05:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The subject is known as Hugo Sánchez, and in my opinion he is a notable painter in Costa Rica. Please, check out the interview published by the nacion.com and profiles at ArtStudio Magazine ("He has made six solo exhibitions and participated in one hundred twenty-five group exhibitions in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Spain, Germany, Venezuela, Brazil and the United States."), ArteCostarica, Ticoclub and La Prensa Libre. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. As suggested by Vejvančický above, Spanish naming customs are that the second surname is only used in highly formal contexts, so searches for the full name wouldn't necessarily be expected to find many sources. The ArtStudio Magazine and La Prensa Libre sources linked above amount to significant coverage in independent reliable sources, satisfying the conditions of the general notability guideline. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - agreeing with the Keepers above.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Failure to find any reliable sources including newspapers etc covered by lexisnexus. One problem is that there is a notable John Tynan who is a jazz writer (and has yet to have a wikipedia article) which makes hunting sources difficult. But searching with his name and the bands mentioned finds only a few pages with tangential references.[35],[36], [37].
It is a concern that the initial article was created by the individual that is also the same individual that uploaded an accompanying image based upon a painting they owned of Tynan suggesting a connection with the individual.
Being a road manager of bands does not seem of itself grounds for notability LittleHow (talk) 11:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- delete LAcks notability. Muslim lo Juheu (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No ascertion of notability and article fails notability criteria per WP:Music. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 15:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 00:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I have tried googlind 'Pisal surname', 'Pisal name' and 'Pisal last name', and none returned more than 10 results. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:15, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep Its a well written article...some links 1, 2.... I have found the sourcing is poor in the article, but the books are correct...--...Captain......Tälk tö me... 10:51, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep The article has potential to be improved. Zuggernaut (talk) 03:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Biography of an actor who fails WP:ENTERTAINER. Only ever credited with minor roles. Article was created as part of a hoax campaign by a now banned user, with much greater claims of notability. When unverifiable claims were removed, we're left with a biography that can only cite IMDB and other similar film databases as a source. No significant coverage to be found. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete was in some notable films but in small, mostly unnamed roles, some of which don't seem to match up with the claims in the article, for example: IMDB gives his credit in South Pacific as "Pilot in Hospital", one of three people with that credit. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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