Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Elvisandhismagicpelvis

The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

User:Elvisandhismagicpelvis

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Elvisandhismagicpelvis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Tomasthetankengine (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Report submission by

Dibo ^{T | C} 23:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Elvisandhismagicpelvis is an editor who has a fondness for rugby league that crosses over to POV pushing and disruptive editing. For the latter he was blocked for a week for 'WP:EW|edit warring]] on multiple articles, despite being warned to stop. This is utterly disruptive behaviour.'.

The block period has now expired, but a new user, Tomasthetankengine, has arrived and is apparently going through recent edits of mine and another user, Tancred and editing in a similarly disruptive way.

For example, the insistence on referring to rugby league as rugby league football is characteristic.

See Tomasthetankengine's edit of Sydney Football Stadium and Elvisandhismagicpelvis's edit of Sport in Australia.

Essentially all other edits have been to disrupt pages that either Tancred or I work on from time to time with the aim of pushing a pro rugby league POV.

I don't think it takes a lot of imagination to suspect that this user is also User:Rugby_666, User:Ehinger222, User:Licinius, User:J is me and User:NSWelshman - all of which have engaged in the same sort of disruptive POV pushing. Some of the sockpuppets go about making constructive edits for a time but the common thread is wilfuland repetitive POV pushing and incivility.

Each time an account gets knocked off, even for a short time, the user goes and creates a new one essentially to bring the warning processes back to the start. It's not fun or funny to have edit wars crop up time and time again because one person can't stop repeating the same destructive behaviour. This person has been blocked countless times and returns constantly. It makes a mockery of WP's structure of sanctions and bans. It needs to be stopped.

Checkuser found

Likely. Dibo ^{T | C} 07:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

There's a decent chance that you're right about all this. The similarity of adding "football" after "rugby league" is solid circumstantial evidence, to go along with the logic that this editor may have wished to start over with a clean block log.

I recommend that you file a request for checkuser (code F) because you allege that these two accounts are socks of a banned user. Shalom ^Hello 13:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The addition of rugby league football to the Sydney Football Stadium is pivotal in the first sentence to refer to the fact that stadium got its name from the fact that rugby league football was played there, not by any association with soccer, which is what the sentence may otherwise suggest. As to whether the phrase is "solid circumstantial evidence", you can decide for yourself[1]. If this is all the evidence that ties these so-called sockpuppets together(myself included), it is extremely tenuous as it is a relatively common name, and the phrase rugby league football, Friday Night Football (Australia), NRL football etc. are regular established mainstays of the Australian language. --Tomasthetankengine 18:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tomasthetankengine. Dibo ^{T | C} 01:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

All accounts have been blocked as well as the following:

Moretimefor (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Serendipitouscontributor (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Grooveyyoutuber (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Tosserandmasterdebater (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Russellthelovemussell (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Senibleconext (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

subsequent to checkuser and as per this comment on jpgordon's talk page:

Hi You asked me if I felt Elvisandhismagicpelvis (talk · contribs) is the same person as Rugby666/Ehinger222. I am very sure they are the same person. They both push the same narrow POV, ignore talk pages, and when blocked he/she simply creates a new account and keeps going. Within the first few edits the new accounts will accuse others of "wikistalking" "trolling" etc, showing the user is notsuch a new wikiperson afterall. There is also an interesting list of single use accounts such as

Moretimefor (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Serendipitouscontributor (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Grooveyyoutuber (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Tosserandmasterdebater (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Russellthelovemussell (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Senibleconext (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

At the moment Elvisandhismagicpelvis (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is blocked and I believe the new account is Tomasthetankengine (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tancred (talk • contribs) 14:45, August 8, 2007

Yeah, they're all the same person. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

and this comment on my talk page:

Hey, there, you may remember we discussed this, the other night. Sorry I wasn't more helpful, at the time, and also that AN/I proved less fruitful than it usually does, for these situations. In any case, I've had a look over things, and I've blocked all accounts mentioned at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Elvisandhismagicpelvis, Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tomasthetankengine, and User talk:Jpgordon#Elvisandhismagicpelvis. I believe that covers everything, for now, yes? – Luna Santin (talk) 08:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Dibo ^{T | C} 00:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocks have been handed out following the Checkuser results, so there's no reason to keep this open. --Akhilleus (talk) 03:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]