Kim Kardashian 'hated' how she felt when she visited the White House for first time in her criminal justice reform efforts
- Kim, 42, appeared on the Angie Martinez IRL Podcast podcast Monday
- She said that she was initially inexperienced when she visited the White House on behalf of Alice Marie Johnson
- Kardashian said that she 'just dove into' the process in her efforts to help people
Kim Kardashian opened up about her efforts working with then-President Donald Trump on her criminal justice reform efforts, saying she initially felt underprepared when she went in on behalf of Alice Marie Johnson, a woman who received a life sentence in 1996 over nonviolent drug charges.
Speaking on the Angie Martinez IRL Podcast podcast Monday, Kardashian - who has been studying to receive a law degree in recent years - said she kept in close touch with her lawyer amid her first visit to the nation's capital in 2018.
'I hated how I felt when I went into the White House for the first time and I didn’t know half of anything that they were saying - like all of the clemency talk, and all the attorney lingo and everything that they were talking about,' she said. 'I literally was sitting there, like texting my attorney that was next to me.'
The latest: Kim Kardashian, 42, opened up about her efforts working with then-President Donald Trump on her criminal justice reform efforts, saying she initially felt underprepared when she went in on behalf of Alice Marie Johnson, a woman who received a life sentence in 1996 over nonviolent drug charges
Kardashian said that she 'just dove into' the process in her efforts to help people.
'I was to the point where I didn’t even know like all of the abbreviations in the White House, so they were like okay this person at the DOJ, and I was like "What is the DOJ?"' she said. 'And my attorney was like, come on Department of Justice and she kept texting me all this stuff but I was never too embarrassed to ask.
'I think that sometimes like you go into something and you like I should know all this stuff.'
Kardashian visited the White House twice in 2018 - meeting in the Oval Office with Trump in May - and then again in September, amid her efforts on behalf of Johnson, whose sentence was eventually commuted by Trump.
Kardashian said that she 'just dove into' the process in her efforts to help people
Kardashian was pictured in the Oval Office with Trump in May of 2018 amid her criminal justice reform efforts
Kardashian said she felt inexperienced with legal terminology in her initial visit: 'I hated how I felt when I went into the White House for the first time and I didn’t know half of anything that they were saying'
'With Alice, I was really naïve to how this all worked,' she said. 'It's a lot of work that goes behind it.'
Kardashian said her late father, attorney Robert Kardashian, would love that she has followed his career path into the legal world, and that they had past talked about her pursuing it.
Kardashian said she was subsequently invited back to the White House for meetings on clemency, and that she focused on learning more about the law to speed up the process.
Kardashian's past working relationship with Trump came under scrutiny last month when her ex-husband Kanye West, along with white nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes, visited the former president at Mar-a-Lago.
West said in a social media clip after the visit that Trump used a derogatory phrase to refer to Kardashian and told West to let her know he felt that way.
'He basically gave me this would-be mob-esque kinda story, talking to some kid from the South Side of Chicago trying to sound mobby or whatever,' West said. 'He goes into the story about all that he went through to get [Johnson] out of jail but he didn’t do it for Kim but he did for me.
'But then he goes on to say that Kim is a [expletive] and you can tell her I said that. And I was thinking like that’s the mother of my children.'
Kim was instrumental in having the sentence of Alice Marie Johnson, a woman who received a life sentence in 1996 over nonviolent drug charges, commuted by Trump
Kardashian was pictured in between former White House advisers Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump in June of 2019
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