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Oct 07, 2012
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In this truly fascinating biography, Richard Ellman presents the entirety of James Joyce: his family, both natal and his family with Nora; his rather strained relationship with Ireland coupled with a love affair of sorts with the city of Dublin; his varied relationships with contemporary writers in Europe; his love of the musical world; his many relocations throughout the continent; his love of language; and of course his writing. And there are sides I've left out.
While the history of the man is intriguing, its importance is as the background to the books he was to create. Without the reaction against the Catholic Church and Ireland and without the love of Dublin, these books would not have seen the light of day. Ellman provides analyses of each book, from creation through publication, the whole torturous path, and along the way also gives the reader so much enlightening information that assures future reading of any Joyce works will be different. I have marked several sections to be read when I read Dubliners, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and (probably) Ulysses again. And I will definitely read the section for Finnegans Wake if/when I reach that book.
Joyce was undoubtedly a genius, a conflicted man, a difficult man, a man who, in his own way, loved his family but also expected the world and everyone in it to move to his drum. But perhaps that is part of the mark of genius.
Ellman makes some interesting summations near the end of his excellent tome. In this first:
In retrospect, it seems clear that the 'monster,'
as Joyce several times called Finnegans Wake in these
days, had to be written, and that he had to write it.
Readers may still sigh because he did not approach them
more directly, but it does not appear that this alternative
was open to him. In Dubliners he had explored the waking
consciousness from outside, in A Portrait and Ulysses from
inside. He had begun to impinge, but gingerly, upon the
mind asleep. There lay before him, as in 1922 he well
knew, this almost totally unexplored expanse. That the
great psychological discovery of his century was the
night world he was, of course, aware, but he frowned on
using that world as a means of therapy. Joyce's purpose
was not so didactic; he wished, unassumingly enough, to
amuse men with it. (p 716)
And finally, in summing up the life of James Joyce,
The surface of the life Joyce lived seemed always
erratic and provisional. But its central meaning was
directed as consciously as his work. The ingenuity with
which he wrote his books was the same with which he
forced the world to read them; the smiling affection
he extended to Bloom and his other principal characters
was the same that he gave to the members of his family;
his disregard for bourgeois thrift and convention was
the splendid extravagance which enabled him in
literature to make an intractable wilderness into a
new state. In whatever he did, his two profound interests
---his family and his writings---kept their place. These
passions never dwindled. The intensity of the first gave
his work its sympathy and humanity; the intensity of
the second raised his life to dignity and high
dedication. (p 744)
I highly recommend this superb biography to anyone interested in James Joyce, in literary biograpy, or any of Mr Joyce's literary works.
While the history of the man is intriguing, its importance is as the background to the books he was to create. Without the reaction against the Catholic Church and Ireland and without the love of Dublin, these books would not have seen the light of day. Ellman provides analyses of each book, from creation through publication, the whole torturous path, and along the way also gives the reader so much enlightening information that assures future reading of any Joyce works will be different. I have marked several sections to be read when I read Dubliners, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and (probably) Ulysses again. And I will definitely read the section for Finnegans Wake if/when I reach that book.
Joyce was undoubtedly a genius, a conflicted man, a difficult man, a man who, in his own way, loved his family but also expected the world and everyone in it to move to his drum. But perhaps that is part of the mark of genius.
Ellman makes some interesting summations near the end of his excellent tome. In this first:
In retrospect, it seems clear that the 'monster,'
as Joyce several times called Finnegans Wake in these
days, had to be written, and that he had to write it.
Readers may still sigh because he did not approach them
more directly, but it does not appear that this alternative
was open to him. In Dubliners he had explored the waking
consciousness from outside, in A Portrait and Ulysses from
inside. He had begun to impinge, but gingerly, upon the
mind asleep. There lay before him, as in 1922 he well
knew, this almost totally unexplored expanse. That the
great psychological discovery of his century was the
night world he was, of course, aware, but he frowned on
using that world as a means of therapy. Joyce's purpose
was not so didactic; he wished, unassumingly enough, to
amuse men with it. (p 716)
And finally, in summing up the life of James Joyce,
The surface of the life Joyce lived seemed always
erratic and provisional. But its central meaning was
directed as consciously as his work. The ingenuity with
which he wrote his books was the same with which he
forced the world to read them; the smiling affection
he extended to Bloom and his other principal characters
was the same that he gave to the members of his family;
his disregard for bourgeois thrift and convention was
the splendid extravagance which enabled him in
literature to make an intractable wilderness into a
new state. In whatever he did, his two profound interests
---his family and his writings---kept their place. These
passions never dwindled. The intensity of the first gave
his work its sympathy and humanity; the intensity of
the second raised his life to dignity and high
dedication. (p 744)
I highly recommend this superb biography to anyone interested in James Joyce, in literary biograpy, or any of Mr Joyce's literary works.
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Reading Progress
October 7, 2012
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October 7, 2012
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October 7, 2012
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ireland
January 4, 2015
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January 5, 2015
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January 19, 2015
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January 22, 2015
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8.34%
"p 66: He was no longer a Christian himself, but he converted the temple to new uses instead of trying to knock it down, regarding it as a superior kind of human folly and one which...contained obscured bits of truth. P67: If Ireland was not to be 'an afterthought of Europe'-a phrase he devised for it about this time-it would have to allow the artist his freedom and would have to muffle the priest."
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January 23, 2015
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8.46%
"Before Ibsen's letter Joyce was an Irishman; after it he was a European."
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January 23, 2015
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10.94%
"In a paper for the Literary and Historical Society in 1902, Joyce "helped to make clearer that...[he]...was quarreling with bad art and petrified morality, not with his nation except insofar as it condoned these. And he stated once and for all his lifelong conviction that literature was the affirmation of the human spirit."
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January 28, 2015
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"enjoyed reading of the meeting of Joyce and Yeats and Yeats' memorializing of the event in writing."
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January 31, 2015
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16.01%
"p 138: his brother Stanislaus writes of James..."Jim is a genius of character...He has, above all, a proud wilful vicious selfishness....He has extraordinary moral courage....His manner...is generally...courteous with strangers, but...I think there is little courtesy in his nature....there is a look of cruelty in his face. Not that he is not gentle at times....But few people will love him, I think...."
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February 2, 2015
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20.63%
"p 148: ...he recognized his theme, the portrait of the renegade Catholic artist as hero. He could draw upon two types of books he had read: the defector from religion and the insurgent artist. p 156: On June 16...he entered into relation with the world around him and left behind him the loneliness he had felt since his mother's death. He would tell her [Nora] later, 'You made me a man.'"
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February 8, 2015
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"His letters home reveal that while he seemed to immerse himself in activity, he was struggling for a hold on the meaning of his exile. The letters were already set in the three modes that he held to throughout his life: the assertive, the plaintive, and the self-exculpatory."
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February 8, 2015
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"p 213: James saw no reason to limit his brother's sacrifices to genius, especially when genius had a family to support. Stanislaus was bound to James by affection and respect, but also by indignity and pain."
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February 12, 2015
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33.82%
"p 292: Having stomped angrily out of the house, he circled back to peer in the window. He could not exist without close ties, no matter in what part of Europe he resided; and if he came to terms with absence, it was by bringing Ireland with him, in his memories, in the persons of his wife, his brother, his sister. So in later life, when asked if he would go back to Ireland, he could reply, 'Have I ever left it?'"
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February 15, 2015
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39.46%
"In Ezra Pound, as avid to discover as Joyce was to be discovered, the writings of Joyce found their missionary."
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February 15, 2015
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40.02%
"To know that he was being read was more important to Joyce than he would have admitted. It was not that he demanded praise alone; he enjoyed dispraise too, and in fact all attention."
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February 15, 2015
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40.02%
"For his,play Exiles, Joyce based his antagonist on Gogarty, Cosgrave, Kettle, and Prezioso. "From his experiences with them Joyce drew the picture of friendship which appears in the play: a friend is someone who wants to possess your mind(since the possession of your body is forbidden by society) and your wife's body, and longs to prove himself your disciple by betraying you.""
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February 18, 2015
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"p 397 Sometimes he brought along the manuscript of Ulysses and read them a few pages from it, but he omitted sentences or whole paragraphs, on the grounds that these were not for girls. It may be said of the long history of censorship of that book that Joyce himself began it."
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February 19, 2015
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"p 439: Since the material of Ulysses was all human life, every man he met was an authority, and Joyce carried dozens of small slips of paper in his wallet and loose in his pockets to make small notes. When he had filled up the front and back of these, he continued to write on them diagonally. At home he would decipher his notes with a magnifying glass, a hint of what he had written being usually enough."
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February 21, 2015
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51.52%
"Although he took the books and letters gladly, and listened to [the baroness'] adventures with much interest, he found the tale too extraordinary for his use. 'A writer,' he remarked to Djuna Barnes in retelling the incident, 'should never write about the extraordinary. That is for the journalist.' (The baroness had lived a wild life and was known to live a life with Homeric parallels)"
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February 22, 2015
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"re: Oxen of the Sun -- The intricacy of this scheme should not conceal a fact about all Joyce's writing which he had mentioned to Budgen, that his complexity was only in his means. 'With me,' he said, 'the thought is always simple.'"
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February 22, 2015
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"[Harriet Weaver's] generosity continued for the rest of Joyce's life, and even after it, for she paid for his funeral. She made no demands upon him....Her benefaction did not make Joyce rich; no amount of money would have done that; but it made it possible for him to be poor only through determined extravagance."
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February 23, 2015
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"p 486: Money came in and he spent it. Fame appeared, in Rilke's sense of the quintessence of all the misunderstandings that collect around a new name; and he was sometimes diverted by it. More to the point, Joyce, the artist, now thirty-eight, completed "Circe" and then the final three episodes of "Ulysses". (Joyce in Paris)"
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February 24, 2015
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57.27%
"Sydney Schiff...invited him to a supper party for Stravinsky and Diaghilev....He was drinking heavily...when the door opened and Marcel Proust in a fur coat appeared....Joyce told Arthur Power that Proust asked him if he liked truffles....'Proust' as Joyce told Jacques Mercanton, ' would only talk about duchesses, while I was more concerned with their chambermaids.'"
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February 25, 2015
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61.33%
"re: Finnegan's Wake: As Joyce informed a friend later, he conceived of his book as the dream of old Finn [MacCumhal], lying in death beside the river Liffey and watching the history of Ireland and the world--past and future--flow through his mind like flotsam on the river of life."
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February 26, 2015
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64.71%
"So, in spite of pain and sporadic blindness, Joyce moved irresistibly ahead with the grandest of all his conceptions....Through blear eyes he guessed at what he had written on paper, and with obstinate passion filled the margins and the space between lines with fresh thoughts. His genius was a trap from which he did not desire to extricate himself."
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February 28, 2015
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"p 607: Nora, whose health had been excellent for many years, was suddenly suspected of having cancer...She went into the hospital, and Joyce, refusing to be separated from her,had a bed set up in her room...He depended upon Nora to hold his life together by her loyalty and by her contempt for his weaknesses. There was no one else to whom he spoke without deliberation."
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March 1, 2015
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69.67%
"I love George Moore's comment on beginning to read Ulysses. "After having read a few pages he commented to Janet Flanner, 'It cannot be a novel, for there isn't a tree in it.'""
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618
March 3, 2015
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70.12%
"Miss Weaver came to Paris to discuss his plans with him in early April, and immediately thereafter, quite properly putting eyesight before matrimony, he went to Zurich."
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March 4, 2015
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71.14%
"Out of consideration for himself as well as posterity, Joyce had decided that a book about his life should follow Gilbert's book on Ulysses. In this way he could make sure that his image...might be given the world as little distorted as possible. He...[asked]...Gilbert, who declined....Without saying so to Gorman directly, he made clear that he was to be treated as a saint with an unusually protracted martyrdom."
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March 4, 2015
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"Appalled by his own dolorousness, he offered Louis Holley a new calendar of weekdays: 'Moansday, Tearsday, Wailsday, Thumpsday, Frightday, Shatterday."
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March 4, 2015
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72.6%
"to correct my prior entry, Appalled by his own dolorousness, he offered Louis Gillet a new calendar of weekdays: 'Moansday, Tearsday, Wailsday, Thumpsday, Frightday, Shatterday.' (auto correct even changes names)"
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March 6, 2015
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76.66%
"He drank with a nice combination of purpose and relaxation: during his convivial evenings he filled his mind with the way people talked and behaved, storing up what he needed for his writing; he also confided to intimate friends the latest anxieties of his life; and as the hour grew later he sang and cavorted to forget his troubles....He engaged in excess with considerable prudence."
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March 7, 2015
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78.35%
"'There is,' he went on, 'no connection between the people in Ulysses and the people in Work in Progress [FW]. There are in a way no characters. It's like a dream. The style is also changing, and unrealistic, like the dream world. If I had to name a character, it would be just an old man. But his own connection with reality is doubtful.'"
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March 8, 2015
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"p 743 Absolutely magnificent. Spellbinding too. This will be my benchmark for future biographies. Joyce was probably a difficult person to be with throughout much of his life, but he certainly appears to meet the criteria for genius. And his wife Nora said, after his death, 'Things are very dull now. There was always something doing when he was about.'"
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Loved it! Have you ever been to Trieste? You can find James Joyce there....
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It's a very pretty seaside town. The various hotels have signs letting you know that JJ stayed there. He lived in Italy long enough for his grand kid to call him Nono.
From my reading of this bio, he spoke Italian within his family even after they left Trieste. At one point there was a list of all his addresses in Trieste then one in Zurich, now one in Paris is starting.
I read the book a while ago. Wasn't he mean to Samuel Beckett? Ah, but then perhaps Beckett wasn't very nice to J's daughter. Have you read Nora? I also enjoyed that book about his wife.
I haven't reached that part yet and haven't read Nora. One of my fellow readers just mentioned that today. Another for the list, I think!
Thank you for this very interesting review, Sue! I have it on my TR-list ever since I read 'Dubliners' which I loved immensely. Your and Kalliope's review made me order the book today, and your review encourages me to read this biography without having read 'Ulysses' yet. I plan on reading 'Portrait of a young man' before tackling this biography, though. By the way, I live in the same aerea as Joyce used to live, only a short distance away from Joyce's quarters at Universitaetsstrasse. If this isn't a hint to start reading this...
Jasmine wrote: "Thank you for this very interesting review, Sue! I have it on my TR-list ever since I read 'Dubliners' which I loved immensely. Your and Kalliope's review made me order the book today, and your rev..."
I'm glad! It really is very readable. And it has sections on each book as mentioned, and how he worked on them. You will be able to look up some of his old haunts!
I'm glad! It really is very readable. And it has sections on each book as mentioned, and how he worked on them. You will be able to look up some of his old haunts!
Great, Sue.
I agree with you that, in spite of all the actual details on his life, this biography never ceases to provide a backdrop to the literary production.
I agree with you that, in spite of all the actual details on his life, this biography never ceases to provide a backdrop to the literary production.
Enjoyed this, Sue, both your comments and all the quotes and updates, this in particular: He engaged in excess with considerable prudence - love it!
Sue wrote: "You will be able to look up some of his old haunts!"
Indeed :). I've already read parts of 'Dubliners' in a café Joyce used to frequent. Unfortunately, the place lost some of its former charm.
Indeed :). I've already read parts of 'Dubliners' in a café Joyce used to frequent. Unfortunately, the place lost some of its former charm.
Wonderful, Sue. I am saddened that yet another mutual book journey has ended. Here's to another...hopefully SOON!
Jasmine wrote: "Sue wrote: "You will be able to look up some of his old haunts!"
Indeed :). I've already read parts of 'Dubliners' in a café Joyce used to frequent. Unfortunately, the place lost some of its forme..."
If Joyce used to frequent it, are you sure it had charm?
Indeed :). I've already read parts of 'Dubliners' in a café Joyce used to frequent. Unfortunately, the place lost some of its forme..."
If Joyce used to frequent it, are you sure it had charm?
So well written. I enjoyed reading your review Sue. I couldn't get over the voyeurism of reading about Joyce's private life with all that detail to reflect on the themes Ellmann explored. We must read Finnegans Wake!
Reem, thanks. I know we view this book somewhat differently. For me it didn't seem voyeurism since Joyce himself appeared to place himself and his life at the center of his work.
I'm looking forward to FW too...after a suitable rest :-)
I'm looking forward to FW too...after a suitable rest :-)
Sue, this wonderful review is now bookmarked _here_ and _here_.
If anyone is unconvinced by what you say, perhaps Anthony Burgess or Edna O'Brien would move them. He called the book "the greatest literary biography of the century"; and she said, "I have yet to meet anyone who has read and digested the whole of (Finnegan's Wake) — except perhaps my friend Richard Ellmann."
I've decided to get the book. Whether I ever read it all the way through, or simply dip into it as a reference, as Kalliope suggests, I'm sure it will be a pleasure to have. Thanks for bringing the book to my attention!
If anyone is unconvinced by what you say, perhaps Anthony Burgess or Edna O'Brien would move them. He called the book "the greatest literary biography of the century"; and she said, "I have yet to meet anyone who has read and digested the whole of (Finnegan's Wake) — except perhaps my friend Richard Ellmann."
I've decided to get the book. Whether I ever read it all the way through, or simply dip into it as a reference, as Kalliope suggests, I'm sure it will be a pleasure to have. Thanks for bringing the book to my attention!