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Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
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it was ok

Well, I don't quite know what the hell that was. I'd gotten it into my head at some point that you weren't anything until you got reading this out of the way, but it was probably one of the most odious reading experiences I've had in my adult life -- especially for a book I volunteered to read. One bonus star for the last five pages or so being not-quite-as-totally-awful as the rest of it, and that's about it. And I feel dumb writing a bunch of obvious shit for the five people in the world besides me who haven't read this yet.

But for those five people, I can tell you what I've learned:

1) If you have a choice between reading the version of a book that got everyone excited about it, or the unabridged version published decades later because it was the author's "preferred" version, LORD GOD READ THE SHORTER ONE. Do not make the mistake I made. "Unabridged" does not mean "cooler." It means "longer." It means "unedited, sloppy, and even questionable." But mostly it means "longer."

2) Anyone who says they're able to "look over" the unrelenting misogyny of this book is, like, freaking insane. The misogyny. is. Unrelenting. It is so completely unrelenting that I kept wondering if the whole thing was a put-on. Like, huge swaths of text about how Martian idealism will negate Earthly material needs are interrupted just to mention that even with said idealism, women will never want to stop shopping. I mean, are you kidding me? That can't be anything but trolling, right? Like, I have read books written in the past before, dudes. The delivery date on this book is no excuse for the fact that the women in this book -- I mean, I don't know how to describe it. It's crazy. It'e like they're supposed to be a different species or something. Either Heinlein is pulling the reader's leg, or he's a gender-specific sociopath.

3) This is not really a separate point, but since there's like 100 pages (at least) devoted specifically to the beauty of orgies, up to and including lady-orgies, I'm shocked at the lengths Heinlein goes to in order to emphasize that none of the male characters are gay, or would ever consider being gay. Again, it's a dated book, or whatever? But the introduction clearly states how Heinlein was trying to break every taboo he could think of, up to and including cannibalism.

Cannibalism. But no gay dudes. Even the Martian is like "Of course, as I preach the power of sexual utopia, I could never ever, never ever, never ever hook up with a dude. But I could totally teach all the ladies to be better at hooking up with dudes. I could do this by having sex with all of them."

HELL'S YEAH BRO! ALL YOU BRO!

4) Jubal Harshaw. We need to talk about Jubal Harshaw. If you talk to anyone about this book, after you get through the rampant misogyny and the no-gay-dudes and the this-book-is-terrible, some asshole will go "Yeah, but Jubal Harshaw, amirite?" Like the idea that you have one character that sort of has a personality makes up for all the other characters having less than none. Let me frame it for you this way -- at the beginning of the book, Jubal Harshaw is a hack writer living in self-imposed exile surrounded by women who are basically all secretaries / mothers / daughters / girlfriends to him. By the end of the book, the Martian cult members all believe he is the father of their Martian Jesus, and then he gets laid by a young woman who's used her spooky Martian powers to transform herself into a clone of the one female character everyone in the book is in love with.

So maybe that sounds like a cool spot to be in, right? Not to mention Harshaw is written as being the smartest person on the planet, negotiating with the media and the government in one swoop in order to protect the Martian Jesus -- not in a pure-holy-genius way, but a this-old-maverick-can-outthink-all-you-whippersnappers-and-corporate-shills kind of way. Like the pure doggone common sense of being a middle-aged fiction writer will get you a harem of mom-secretary-daughter-girlfriends, make you more powerful than the UN, and make you the father of Martian Jesus.

Heinlein was a middle-aged fiction writer when he wrote this. SO IT'S NOT EVEN YOUR WISH-FULFILLMENT. IT'S HEINLEIN'S. AND THAT DUDE'S FREAKING DEAD.

4)We need to talk about the Martian sex cult. First, I'm calling it this because it's totally what it is, even thought technically it's a bunch of humans living in sexual utopia through learning Martian mind tricks. But Martian sex cult is funnier and truer. As I said earlier, there's at least 100 pages devoted to an attempt to break down the reader's preconceived notions about sex cults not being creepy, and how they make everyone happier. But look, maybe Heinlein didn't have old episodes of "Real Sex" to watch on the internet, but now we do, okay? And sex cults are creepy, fireals. In fact, 100 pages talking about their non-creepiness does not make them less creepy. Guess what it makes them the exact total fucking opposite of.

And I'm just saying, maybe if there'd been one little guy-orgy in all those pages, like to replace all the dudes talking about how they were having sex with each other's wives? I'm just saying that would be a start. But mostly no. Because even then? You have this psychotic group-think thing that is totally mind-wipingly terrible and makes me hate everyone alive for liking anything about this book.

5) In reviewing this, I'm going through it in my mind and heart again, and you know? I fucking hate it. I fucking hate this book. I was never actually convinced that Heinlein wrote all this stupid contradictory gender-politics stuff or insane cult stuff in order to troll the reader, which would be the one way I could possibly excuse everything else. The book is ethically dishonest, Heinlein was a scumgoat, and Jubal Harshaw is a turd.

But the cover? It's pretty cool.
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message 1: by Mike (new) - rated it 1 star

Mike ROFL dude. I just wrote my own "review" of it specifically in response to the awakening moment (sneering, vomit-ugly DeNiro in that Robin Williams movie) while reading your review-as-an-allegorical-shot-of-L-DOPA:
"OMG I'd forgotten just how mystifyingly anachronistic - even just plain narrow-minded and terrified of all grey areas in humanity's experience - this book is. Read Keith's spectacular review for a reminder/palate cleanser/wake-up call."


Keith HA! Awesome!


Xandra By far the best review I've read for this piss poor sickening book. I, too, made the mistake to read the unabridged version, can't believe I finished it.


Keith Solidarity, Xandra.


message 5: by Oriana (last edited Oct 07, 2013 04:38PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Oriana Wow. This perversely makes me want to revisit this book, which I haven't read since I was probably fourteen (and don't remember even a smidge), just so I can join in with the baffled hate.


Manny It's weird. Every word you say is plainly true, but I remember loving this book to bits when I was 12. I'm getting back in my time machine to enjoy some orgies and Martian mind-tricks and pearls of wisdom from the ineffably wise Dr Harshaw.


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

Holy word, man. You speak the truth.


Julio Genao terrific review.


Keith Thanks, everybody. Happy to ruin y'alls childhood memories, any way I can.


message 10: by Leah (new) - rated it 2 stars

Leah Stumbled on this review at 3 am. This is amazing amazing! Verbalized all of my feelings about this terrible book.


Jennifer Best review ever.


Joseph Erhardt SIASL affected me, well, strangely as well. As a teen, I tended to like Heinlein, but about the middle of this volume I just totally lost interest. Forget the sociological issues--this prose just didn't pull me through. I had no reason to finish it and probably saved myself a couple of hours in which to do something else. Like watch TV. (semisnark)


Bana AZ Why didn't I read this review before I started reading the book???? I'm also reading the uncut version and am now about 3/4ths in. I'm gonna force myself to finish it. I haven't gotten to the orgies part. Mostly I'm just bored by the writing.


Keith Well, the orgies aren't that interesting either. They're mostly just awkward.


Rachel K Thank you for saying everything I've been thinking!


Keith You're welcome!


Marsh "Bad Sci Fi" Bloom Curious what your take is on the Foster/Digby sections including the ending. The rest of the book is clearly a vehicle for the author to do pretty much everything he feels like with a small nod to telling a story because he jas to, but those dead Foster sections I just did not grok.

I kept thinking of those old b&w movies where angels are given assignments and earn wings. Down to the metal halos this book was giving that genre a shout out. But why??


message 18: by Keith (last edited Sep 09, 2016 03:35PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Keith Mercifully, Marsh, I have pushed enough of this book out of my mind in the three years since I wrote this review that I have no idea what you're talking about.


message 19: by CJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

CJ This is a perfect review. "Unrelenting" is the PERFECT description for the misogyny. Ugh, and the stupid "no homo" attitude. Double ugh.

Note: This book caused an argument between me and my husband because he would NOT admit that it was sexist. Maybe I should point him towards this review...


message 20: by Nata (new)

Nata You had me convinced not to read this book in the first paragraph, but I read your whole review laughing. I will not read Heinlein, but please let me know if you're writing a book yourself, cause I'd gladly read that one.


Keith Nata wrote: "please let me know if you're writing a book yourself, cause I'd gladly read that one. "

Be careful what you wish for, Nata.


message 22: by Jon (new)

Jon Zelazny Bravo, sir! Went through the same damn ordeal reading it twenty years ago. Maybe Heinlein figured he could tap into whatever it was that made idiots follow his old buddy Hubbard.


message 23: by Joy (new) - rated it 2 stars

Joy Pixley I wish I could just link to your review as my own review. Unrelenting, indeed. Argh, this was PAINFUL to read.


message 24: by Katie (new) - rated it 1 star

Katie Koch It was so much self indulgent BS! Love your review. Perfect. I felt like maybe I wasn't grasping, no wait, GROKKING, something to have hated this book as much as I did. The one thing you didn't mention is that Heinlein tried so hard to preach love, peace and openness and all that nonconformity garbage, then goes and preaches conformity to his cult and is unaccepting of others who are not understanding or comfortable with his way of being. So he swaps one box for another. So who cares? What's different? I thought maybe that ironic happening would be a resolved part of the book, but the unawareness of it! Geeze, I'm just angry now for wasting my time on that garbage.


Keith LET'S START A CULT AGAINST THIS BOOK


Antelope I'm all for joining the cult against this book. Thank goodness I borrowed it from the library and didn't pay actual money for it. What a waste of my time. The reviews I've read here of this book are more entertaining than the book itself. Why, oh why did I think the long version would be a good thing???


message 27: by Lisa (new) - rated it 2 stars

Lisa O'Kane I love you so much, my friend. I just put this book down myself, and I jumped on here to see if anyone else felt the same way I felt about it. And then I saw this glorious, perfectly expressed post, and I was like, “My God, I miss that guy.”


message 28: by Iaan (new) - added it

Iaan I don't get why it keeps coming up on all these 'best sf books with gay main character'... it seems to be the opposite... I'm about 3/4 of the way through (just about to get to Martian Sex Cult part I think) and this review is making me seriously consider just cutting my losses and giving up right now.


message 29: by Emily (new) - rated it 1 star

Emily Brown This review is incredible! Thank you for taking the time to write it. I hope you have soothed your soul with an actual good book in the mean time.


Keith Eh, mostly I just reread Dune.


message 31: by Kristopher (new) - added it

Kristopher Unrelenting for sure, it reads like fantasizing and ramblings.


message 32: by Julianne (new)

Julianne Greatest. Book review. Ever.


message 33: by Wick (new)

Wick Welker Thanks for this review. As I long time reader of science fiction I’ve always felt like a second class citizen for not reading this. Your review confirms that I don’t need to waste my time.


message 34: by Mark (new) - rated it 1 star

Mark Douglas Sorry to keep bringing you back to this review posted 7 years ago.
Just wanted to say that you fucking nailed it.
I'm hoping you can give me a top-10 books to read list because obviously your taste in books is on-point.


message 35: by Alexa (new) - rated it 1 star

Alexa My goodness, I need to get better at writing reviews, using this as inspiration. AGREE AGREE AGREE. I just finished the book and am revolted. You captured so much of what has set me off and I applaud your writing here!!


Maggie Haha thank you for this review . I stumbled upon the unabridged version and good lord , it was a struggle.


message 37: by Keith (last edited Oct 20, 2020 10:41AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Keith Mark wrote: "I'm hoping you can give me a top-10 books to read list because obviously your taste..."

Sorry for the late reply, Mark. I think in July I was busy teaching summer school and staring out the window in existential despair.

THE TOP TEN BOOKS

1. Dune
2. 2666
3. The Circus of Dr. Lao
4. literally anything by César Aira (Shantytown, The Little Buddhist Monk, Ghosts, The Linden Tree, The Literary Conference, etc)
5. After the Quake
6. Band For Life
7. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
8. Nightwood
9. CivilWarLand in Bad Decline
10. Enigma

Oh, and never read House of Leaves.

There you go, the ten best books and the one worst one (besides Stranger in a Strange Land).

Oh, and read my book and my wife's book.

There, that's everything.


message 38: by Mark (new) - rated it 1 star

Mark Douglas Thanks Keith, I’m currently on #1 and going down the list!


Keith Mark wrote: "Thanks Keith, I’m currently on #1 and going down the list!"

omg I just looked at this list again. If you even make it to #3 before Christmas I will be extremely impressed.


message 40: by Eden (new) - rated it 2 stars

Eden Prosper The fact that I can fully appreciate this review is one of the few reasons it was worth reading this tedious ass book.


message 41: by Mark (new) - rated it 1 star

Mark Douglas Keith wrote:

omg I just looked at this list again. If you even make it to #3 before Christmas I will be extremely impressed."


Only just finished #1. Guess I didn't make it! On to the next one


Keith Mark wrote: "Keith wrote:

omg I just looked at this list again. If you even make it to #3 before Christmas I will be extremely impressed."

Only just finished #1. Guess I didn't make it! On to the next one"


6 months well spent!!!


message 43: by Mel (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mel Lol what is with the fucking "unrelenting" fatphobia in this review?


Keith Menelaos wrote: "Lol what is with the fucking "unrelenting" fatphobia in this review?"

Solid point. Edited.


message 45: by James (new)

James Atkinson As one of the five who managed never to get around to this one, I thank you for this insightful review and will triage the book appropriately in response.


Joseph Bernard Cruz bravo, this book Sucked and just when it was getting good at the half way point, stupid New-age, free-love, beatles pseudo-christian propaganda.


message 47: by Doug (new) - rated it 1 star

Doug Graham I grokked the fullness of this review. Thou art god.


message 48: by Melki (new)

Melki I'm one of the five, and I believe I will choose to remain in this elite group. Thanks for the review warning.


message 49: by Lucas (new) - rated it 1 star

Lucas I've read the "book" back in 2017 I think, and time and again I come back to this review to keep my hate alive.

It's not simply a pure waste of time, it makes you hate yourself, literature and the world.


Tamar Kelly Lucas wrote: "I've read the "book" back in 2017 I think, and time and again I come back to this review to keep my hate alive.

It's not simply a pure waste of time, it makes you hate yourself, literature and the..."


Lucas, I don't know who you are, but you are so right. I hated this book so much and got so freakin' angry reading it.


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