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:No {{User|194.9.5.12}}, nowhere did I break my arbcom restrictions. You did. As for "weasel words" I don't think adding "supposably" to a temple (built during the heyday of European nationalism) which claims half the scientists, leaders and writers of western Europe as German (including people who could never have been germans, like arminius who lived 2000 years ago) is a weasel word. Do you (directed at admins, not pro german IP) [[User:Rex Germanus|Rex]] 15:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC) |
:No {{User|194.9.5.12}}, nowhere did I break my arbcom restrictions. You did. As for "weasel words" I don't think adding "supposably" to a temple (built during the heyday of European nationalism) which claims half the scientists, leaders and writers of western Europe as German (including people who could never have been germans, like arminius who lived 2000 years ago) is a weasel word. Do you (directed at admins, not pro german IP) [[User:Rex Germanus|Rex]] 15:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC) |
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I do not see the point as the article clearly states the selection criterias applied: "As being "of the German tongue" was the main selection criterion for the original 160 persons representing the 1,800 years, the King included persons from modern-day Sweden, Austria, Poland, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Russia, Switzerland and the Baltic States." ([[User:194.9.5.12|194.9.5.12]] 16:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)) |
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194.9.5.12 (talk · contribs), a dispruptive (pro)German anonymous IP, was put on revert parole by the arbcom. He is limited to 1 revert per article per week. Which he broke on the article Walhalla temple by reverting twice in three days. His edit summary (of the 2nd revert) was: "I have reverted your unfounded rv 2) you know me, Rex 3) even if you do not like it, German inventions, philosophy and literature are great...".
- Diff evidence:
Rex 16:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Provide a link to the arbitration case, please. Thatcher131 16:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ulritz is the relevant case. There is a clear violation if this is one of the editors placed on revert parole and probation in that case, but the log of blocks and bans reflects some uncertainty on who's who, so I will defer to Thatcher's greater knowledge of IP ranges and assignment methods. Newyorkbrad 17:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter who is who here as the IP was included in the arbcoms sanctions later on. (see here [1])Rex 18:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- See last item at the very bottom of the arbitration case page. Newyorkbrad 18:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes I know. Arbcom probations were installed on him/her too. Rex 18:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- (As can be seen with the link I already provided)Rex 18:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I see ... I saw the additional remedy was the same date as the note about the checkuser finding, but I didn't realize the new motion came AFTER the checkuser. However, the remedy is against 194.9.5.12. These edits were by 194.9.5.10. Can we tell if this is the same editor? If so I would block for 48h with a warning that the next block would be much longer. Newyorkbrad 19:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes these users are the same person. This can easily be seen from their contributions:
- User:194.9.5.10 ([2])
- User:194.9.5.12 ([3])
- Rex 20:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I see ... I saw the additional remedy was the same date as the note about the checkuser finding, but I didn't realize the new motion came AFTER the checkuser. However, the remedy is against 194.9.5.12. These edits were by 194.9.5.10. Can we tell if this is the same editor? If so I would block for 48h with a warning that the next block would be much longer. Newyorkbrad 19:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- (As can be seen with the link I already provided)Rex 18:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes I know. Arbcom probations were installed on him/her too. Rex 18:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- See last item at the very bottom of the arbitration case page. Newyorkbrad 18:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter who is who here as the IP was included in the arbcoms sanctions later on. (see here [1])Rex 18:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Rex, you added weasel words, 195 removed them (which could be counted as a first revert) then you reverted to re-add them, then he reverted to remove them. I suppose it's a 1RR violation but I don't like weasel words, no one discussed in on the talk page, and if Ludwig's intent was to honor German achievement, it seems reasonable to mention that, even if some of the things he honored were arguably not of German origin. I'm unwilling to act without a second opinion. Thatcher131 02:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thatcher is generally stricter than I am, so I will accept his opinion on this. However, please return if problems continue. Newyorkbrad 02:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, those weasel words are even in parens. Not really very handy, it's better to either provide a reference or remove entirely if you're unsure about things. I would be inclined to tolerate this once, but I'm notoriously soft. ^^;; --Kim Bruning 02:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Of course we shouldn't get a similar complaint a second time, right?
Rex has changed the article twice without giving any explanation and I have simply restored the original version. By the way, it is a fact that the hall was built for that purpose. (194.9.5.10 13:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC))
PS: please note that Rex has violated the arbcom probation and,hence, he should be blocked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rex_Germanus/archive5#Blocked_for_violation_of_Arbcom_probation (194.9.5.12 13:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC))
- No 194.9.5.12 (talk · contribs), nowhere did I break my arbcom restrictions. You did. As for "weasel words" I don't think adding "supposably" to a temple (built during the heyday of European nationalism) which claims half the scientists, leaders and writers of western Europe as German (including people who could never have been germans, like arminius who lived 2000 years ago) is a weasel word. Do you (directed at admins, not pro german IP) Rex 15:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I do not see the point as the article clearly states the selection criterias applied: "As being "of the German tongue" was the main selection criterion for the original 160 persons representing the 1,800 years, the King included persons from modern-day Sweden, Austria, Poland, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Russia, Switzerland and the Baltic States." (194.9.5.12 16:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC))
Fedayee (talk · contribs) is placed on a revert parole by the Arbitration Committee. The final decision in his case is here: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan.
Fedayee has been placed on revert parole and limited to one revert per page per week. [4] However on March days article he made 2 reverts within the last 2 days.
- The following diffs show the offending behavior
- March Days, Fedayee reverted the article [5] to this version: [6]
- March Days, Fedayee reverted the article [7] to this version: [8]
- Summation
As can be seen from above, Fedayee is in violation of his parole.
Reported by: Grandmaster 04:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Analysis
- April 11 Grandmaster removes section about muslim allegience [9], Fedayee re-adds [10]
- April 12 Atabek makes a substantial rewrite [11], Fedayee reverts most of it [12] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thatcher131 (talk • contribs) 13:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC).
- Response I'm going to block for 24 hours. There seems to be some improvement in that the parties are discussing the issues on the talk page, but I feel I need to block for 3 reasons. One, in the current environment changes should be discussed before reverting them, not after; two, I don't want to inadvertantly create an impression of selective enforcement, and three, without strong enforcement, the parties might begin to take additional liberties and the situation could rapidly deteriorate. Thatcher131 14:04, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Tommysun (talk · contribs) is under Arbitration Committee sanction. The final decision in the case is here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience.
Judgement was passed against User:Tommysun in the ArbCom decision on pseudoscience. Included in this decision was 'Tommysun is banned from editing articles which relate to science and pseudoscience.' Tommysun made a large number of edits to Systems theory. Immediately following these edits, User:Fixaller, a single-purpose account for the Systems theory article, made its first edit and Tommysun ceased editing the page. Fixaller's edits to Systems theory show blatant COI, and are similar in tone to those of Tommysun. Fixaller has recented stated an intention to request an account under the name 'Tom Mandel', stating that this is his real name. I seem to recall Tommysun signing with this name, but haven't dug for the relevant posts yet. See also Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tommysun.
- Addendum: User:Tommysun signed postings at the ArbCom decision proceedings, and was referred to as, 'Tommy Mandel'. Michaelbusch 19:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The following diffs show the offending behavior:
- Systems theory, see [| article history] from September of last year.
- Systems theory is an article related to science and pseudoscience. If User:Fixaller is a sockpuppet of User:Tommysun, it is being used to evade the ArbCom decision.
Summation: I suspect User:Fixaller of being a sockpuppet of User:Tommysun, for the purpose of trying to evade the ArbCom Decision on Psuedoscience. Because User:Tommysun is now dormant, a normal request for Checkuser is insufficient.
Reported by: Michaelbusch 16:19, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have reminded him of the ArbCom ban. I'm prepared to give him a second chance. Thatcher131 01:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Mandel has been editing the Systems theory article again, this time as User:Tom Mandel. He is ignoring warnings. Michaelbusch 00:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Response blocked for 24 hours. Thatcher131 01:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
user Ombudsman
user:Ombudsman continues to make disruptive edits to mediucal articles in violation of the Arbcom restriction. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vaccine_controversy&diff=prev&oldid=116167517 He has in fact made no change to his behaviour, and continues to attack other users - particularly me - and the rest of the medical establishment. Midgley 05:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please provide at least a few diffs showing disruptive behavior and personal attacks. I would rather not have to browse his entire contribution history myself. thanks. Thatcher131 20:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- My impression (having reported him here once before) is that he remains as tendentious and disruptive as ever on medical topics, if not more so - but he has not been editing much recently, so it's hard to justify a block as preventive. If he became more active and continued his current modus operandi, that would be a different story. His removal of well-meaning talk page comments with nasty edit summaries ([13], [14]) is uncivil but not block-worthy by itself. MastCell Talk 21:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, remember that the reason he is on probation is that ArbCom has already found him to be disruptive; the threshhold for taking action on the probation is much lower than it would be for a user who had not previously been through the dispute resolution process. Article and article talk page bans are a fairly mild remedy, since it would allow him to edit any of the other 1.5 million or so articles. Things don't have to get unbearable before requesting action. Thatcher131 11:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
General request: in case a fresh admin comes by and takes a look at this page, please include a link to the relevant arbitration case where it isn't clear from the context. Thanks, Newyorkbrad 01:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
ROOB323
User:ROOB323 is in violation of 1RR injunction (let alone a revert parole) on Khachkar destruction article here: [15] [16] He practically reverted the article to this version by deleting the same section about khachkars in Armenia: [17] Grandmaster 05:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Response Blocked 24 hours. For the future, new requests go at the top of the section, and please include a link to the arbitration case. Thatcher131 11:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- OK, thanks, I will bear that in mind. Grandmaster 11:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Johnski is in violation of the arbitration decision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Johnski/Proposed_decision) and is once again using meatpuppets to revert Dominion of Melchizedek article. I strongly believe User:Harvardy, User:Oregonic and User:125.212.108.206 is Johnski or an organizational contact of DoM.
[18] Nov 9, 2006 (Harvardy)
[19] Nov 25, 2006 (Harvardy)
[20] Dec 2, 2006 (Harvardy)
[21] April 4, 2006 {Oregonic)
[22] April 6, 2006 (IP 125.212.108.206)
Immediately follow the above edits these two occured 46 minutes later and 1 hr 9 minutes later by Harvardy also on April 6th: [23]
[24] April 7, 2006
The finding of fact was that Johnski was "Johnski, and his numerous puppets, are reasonably believed to be associated with the Dominion of Melchizedek and are capable of using a wide variety of IPs to access Wikipedia."
The proposed decision was as follows: " Dominion of Melchizedek and associated articles, shall be semi-protected. If necessary, Johnski, or any other editor believed by an administrator to be a sockpuppet or meatpuppet of Johnski, may be blocked indefinitely by any administrator. The article may be unprotected (and reprotected) at the discretion of any admin who deems it safe to do so."
Currently the DoM article has been semi-protected by User:Tom harrison, however the meatpuppet is continuing to be a constant problem. Given the fact that the arbitration decision only gave two vague tools to combat the problem of Johnski and his sock/meatpuppets, I am asking for stronger enforcement of this decision.
Harvardy has attempted to bypass the DoM talk page by using a subpage of another user to make editing changes where no one else could discuss it and then proceeded to revert the DoM article [25]. That page has been shut down by Tom Harrison and redirected to the DoM page.
Furthermore, Harvardy has been reverting his user page constantly, which have been the only edits he has made to Wikipedia. The reverts are in response to the sockpuppet tag on his page, which he adds, "Believe it or not" at the bottom. This is done to try to create a cover and whitewash his poor behavior regarding reverting DoM articles. His page has been protected by an Admin so he no longer revert that page. Davidpdx 09:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Response It appears that admin Tom Harrison has indefiinitely blocked Harvardy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) per the arbitration ruling that obvious sock puppets of Johnski may be banned. I'm not sure there is enough evidence yet regarding Oregonic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), but you can report it if he continues to make characteristic edits. Thatcher131 01:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Ed Poor (talk · contribs) has made recents at WP:NPOV [26] and [WP:NPOV dispute] [27] [28]. He also created the article Belief in global warming [29] which looks like it may be a potential POV fork. --Minderbinder 13:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Here is what I wrote, although it was reverted less than one hour later:
- Note that the undue weight provision is intended to avoid giving undue weight to a minority view about the subject in question. It should not be used to justify giving a lot of weight to criticism of a minority view. [30]
Making an edit or two, letting other revert that edit, and then discussing the matter politely on the relevant talk pages is a far cry from "tendentious editing". So I don't see what you're getting at.
And the redirect I created was not an article. It just fills in a red link from a talk page discussion. I've been doing that for 5 years, and you are the first one I can ever recall objecting to this. If you think a red link is better, just deleted it or ask an admin to speedy it. --Uncle Ed 15:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Nope, my mistake. It was an article, but I have userfied it and left a speedy delete tag behind. If information about Belief in global warming is not considered an encyclopedic topic, I will not push it. It might be relevant to the Global warming controversy article, though. But it's not "tendentious" to create a new article and then agree to let it be deleted or userfied. Not tendentious on my part, anyway. --Uncle Ed 15:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- recovered from edit conflict
- But you didn'tcreate a redirect. You made a barely coherent amalgamation of essay and dicdef. That said, I am willing to WP:AGF. Abeg92contribs 15:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'll second that, it wasn't a redirect, it was originally a short article which has since (after my initial post on this pagea) been moved to User:Ed Poor/belief in global warming [31]. I'd like to AGF, but it doesn't instil confidence when there isn't honesty about a link in question. --Minderbinder 15:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I used strike out codes to mark up the part where I made a mistake. I confused the article creation with a redirect. The article is now in my userspace, even though I disagree about whether it is an "essay" or a bona fide article. --Uncle Ed 15:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Response (In the future, please provide a link to the closed case.) This certainly looks like a POV fork(s) intended to evade consensus already reached on established articles. However the remedy in the case, article probation, does not apply since Ed is messing around with an article he created, not an existing article. If you don't like it as an essay, see miscellany for deletion. I think the issue Ed is trying to raise at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:NPOV dispute is complex and would benefit from thoughtful discussion. I do not believe Ed's behavior on those pages is (at present) disruptive within the meaning of his probation. Thatcher131 15:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- My bad on the case link, I copied it and forgot to paste. --Minderbinder 15:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, Thatcher. See also my new essay, Wikipedia:Consensus version. If asked to do so, I am willing to confine all my 'project page' edits regarding the complex issue I'm trying to raise, to this essay. --Uncle Ed 16:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- It would be best to discuss these policy changes on the policy talk page before trying to implement them, and I see no reason as yet to invoke your probation to ban you from those talk pages. Thatcher131 16:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, Thatcher. See also my new essay, Wikipedia:Consensus version. If asked to do so, I am willing to confine all my 'project page' edits regarding the complex issue I'm trying to raise, to this essay. --Uncle Ed 16:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Ed, please stop playing it so close to the line. You were doing better than this. Newyorkbrad 17:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to take this as a request to avoid making edits to Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:NPOV dispute. Is it okay if I discuss these two articles at their talk pages? --Uncle Ed 17:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry I wasn't clear. I was referring more to the "global warming" issue. I concur with Thatcher that talkpage discussion on the policy pages is fine. Newyorkbrad 18:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- The last edit I recall making re: global warming was a comment to Raymond Arritt, who then flew off in a snit. What were you referring to? I'll stay away from any specific page, on request. Not being noble, the terms of my probation would seem to require this. --Uncle Ed 21:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Since the global warning page cited above doesn't exist any more, I'm not requesting that you keep away from anything in particular, just edit in general in accordance with the spirit of your probation and collaboration. Newyorkbrad 21:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)