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Society for Navigation on Essequibo and adjacent Rivers

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This article has no lead section and only references one source. There are no inline citations and the majority of the article is unsourced. The prose is also unprofessional and unencylopedic. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 11:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. This an entry about a historical organization that meets NORG. The entry is based on a book and article that are in the bibliography and on contemporaneous sources. I have added an intro and moved the sections around a bit. It was written by some of the standards at Nlwiki. AFDISNOTCLEANUP. The article does need a rename. gidonb (talk) 17:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't explain why there are no inline citations. Certainly doesn't look like this article has broad coverage either. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 18:30, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a book and a book chapter. Both certainly independent of the subject, RS, SIGCOV, and right on topic. Response is in defiance of AFDISNOTCLEANUP and NEXIST. Per WP:NEXIST: Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. The bold is in the source so we will not miss it. gidonb (talk) 20:11, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a book chapter nor a book itself, where is your proof for that? If someone wrote a book about the subject it might be logical that this has the same title and also that I refer to it. If I write about the English EIC it might be logical that EIC is inside the title isn't it? Your remarks really make no sense at all. Johan Francke (talk) 05:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The name is inside the title. gidonb (talk) 08:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reference to four works and also the archival source is given. A lead section already has been added Johan Francke (talk) 05:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many nominations fail AFDISNOTCLEANUP and SOFIXIT. gidonb (talk) 08:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The same article is published in a Dutch version, and there no single comment was given. It has also been published in another encyclopedic wiki site. Johan Francke (talk) 10:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spain–Suriname relations

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This article is mainly based on primary sources. The countries' interaction appears very minor and limited to diplomatic recognition. No embassies, state visits, agreements, significant migration or trade which typically add to notable relations. LibStar (talk) 23:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hmm I browsed around for some Dutch sources, but niks, nada. Drmies (talk) 00:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Argentina

Argentina women's national under-18 softball team

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Subject does not meet the WP:NORG or WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 00:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jorge Pan

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There doesn't seem to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 08:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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List of entertainment events at Movistar Arena (Buenos Aires)

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Articles for deletion/List of entertainment events at the SM Mall of Asia complex

Articles for deletion/List of entertainment events at Movistar Arena (Buenos Aires) (2nd nomination)

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Contains only events since the end of 2019, only concerts. Completely unreferenced. mikeblas (talk) 14:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, already at AFD so not eligible for Soft Deletion,
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Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

Bolivia

Brazil

RBS TV Santa Cruz do Sul

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Local Brazilian TV station fails WP:GNG. I cannot find any WP:SIGCOV of this station in independent sources (the only sources the articles are to press releases of the station or its parent). Furthermore, under WP:BRANCH, we would need evidence of coverage outside its market area and that's not in evidence either. I am seeking a consensus for a redirect to RBS TV as an AtD, which was in place until recently reverted by the page creator. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Link to related AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RBS TV Santa Maria

RBS TV Santa Maria

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Local Brazilian TV station fails WP:GNG. I cannot find any WP:SIGCOV of this station in independent sources (the only sources the articles are to press releases of the station or its parent). Furthermore, under WP:BRANCH, we would need evidence of coverage outside its market area and that's not in evidence either. I am seeking a consensus for a redirect to RBS TV as an AtD, which was in place until recently reverted by the page creator. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Link to related AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RBS TV Santa Cruz do Sul

Brazil women's national under-18 softball team

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Subject lacks the needed coverage from reliable secondary sources to meet the WP:NORG/WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 01:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – There is no Brazil women's under-18 team, only under-20 and under-17. Svartner (talk) 14:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Urutau (3D Printable Firearm)

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No evidence found of notability, no independent reliable sources about this. Being offered on some sites is not the same as having the necessary sourcing about the subject. Fram (talk) 16:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It is also worth noting that this subject has a significant amount of traction on social media websites like Twitter/X, Reddit, and even LinkedIn. This is difficult to directly cite due to its lack of centralization and login requirements. Still, I would like to think that this subject is notable given that it achieved its publishers' requirements for quality. That said, this subject is relatively new, and I am sure that, in time, more direct evidence of notability will become available. Any suggestions to rectify this in the meantime are appreciated. DreamWeav3r95 (talk) 16:36, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Merge with 3D printed firearm per WP:PRODUCT. Right now I lean heavier towards deletion as the only sources relevant to the actual gun itself are from what looks like the designer's own website- the other sources make no mention of the gun. Getting social media traction is not in and of itself a qualifier for notability. Archimedes157 (talk) 23:03, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We do have two interviews/podcast with the developer/designer

which are :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZLD4geWKA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmZ8dkvOwyM

Also, it is notable that It is the first Bullpup submachine gun/PCC that anyone can make in the world and not based on the FGC-9.

This design is not based on any previous gun design

the only thing it has in common with the fgc-9 is its barrel

I lean toward keeping this page Superlincoln (talk) 14:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
independent reliable sources of the Urutau :

https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/tag/urutau/

https://3dprintgeneral.com/portfolio/the-brazilian-jstark-ze-carioca-3dpgp-ep19/

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/yveilleuxlepage_about-an-hour-ago-the-files-for-the-urutau-activity-7231845456090165248-8Leu

https://ctrlpew.com/file-drop-the-urutau/ Superlincoln (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Urutau is mentioned in Armament Research Services (ARES) Research Report 8: Desktop Firearms Desktop Firearms:

Emergent Small Arms Craft Production Technologies 2023 update page 30-31

https://armamentresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/ARES-Research-Report-No-8-Desktop-Firearms-2023-Update-EARLY-ACCESS.pdf

I think this is enough independent reliable sources about the Urutau right? Superlincoln (talk) 15:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Printing Terror: An Empirical Overview of the Use of 3D-Printed Firearms by Right-Wing Extremists:

However, recent developments within the 3DPF community are concerning, as they seem to focus on further lowering the barriers to entry for producing 3DPF. Noteworthy developments include the ‘Nutty 9,’ an improved bolt design for the FGC-9 consisting of nothing more than four nuts and two bolts screwed into a printed connector piece, and the development of the Urutau—a soon-to-be-released hybrid pistol-caliber carbine—that is said to be significantly easier to build than the FGC-9.

[1]https://ctc.westpoint.edu/printing-terror-an-empirical-overview-of-the-use-of-3d-printed-firearms-by-right-wing-extremists/

Urutau was mentioned in the 3D-Printed Firearms and Terrorism: Trends and Analysis Pertinent to Far-Right Use

5 times

[2]https://www.jstor.org/stable/48778663?seq=2 Superlincoln (talk) 09:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into List of 3D printed weapons and parts and/or FGC-9. I do not think this meets the GNG yet, though it might be close. The mentions in the academic papers are insufficient to establish notability since they are only trivial, passing mentions with no detail. However, the ARES Research Report is an independent source with several paragraphs on the Urutau. A LinkedIn post by an Assistant Professor at the Royal Military College of Canada seems promising but he admits in the post to having lacking "expertise in that area" thus his post doesn't meet the expertise guideline for self-published sources. As for the blog posts, YouTube videos, and other primary sources, they (in my opinion) all fall well below the bar for verifiability. If another secondary source of the quality, independence and verifiability of the ARES Research Report can be found, I would change my vote. Richard Ye^talk 15:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there are three different suggested Merge target articles. Of course, content can be merged to multiple articles but we need a primary article in order to close this AFD.
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Delete: I'm not sure the new second amendment is what we're looking for as far a sourcing goes... This is about all the coverage there is [3], rest are un-RS. Seems like PROMO with most of the sourcing being primary. Oaktree b (talk) 00:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merging to "3d printed firearms" is probably the best place to send it to. Oaktree b (talk) 00:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge it into FGC-9 (the primary article) as the gun won't have been designed if FGC-9 did not exist and merge it into the List of 3D printed weapons and parts as the secondary article. Superlincoln (talk) 04:03, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still lean heavier towards delete, but more people seem to support a merge or at least not totally deleting the article, and I agree with Richard Ye that List of 3D printed weapons and parts is probably the best place to merge it. Archimedes157 (talk) 21:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We still have two target articles being proposed with equal support.
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Merge into List of 3D printed weapons and parts. Reference already exists within FGC-9 article as well, the subject does not meet WP:GNG for a standalone article. Jtwhetten (talk) 19:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil Proposed deletions

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Chile

Jere Klein

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Non-notable Chilean musician. WP:TOOSOON. Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Cabrils (talk) 23:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per mom: far too soon. Bearian (talk) 01:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep Massive coverage in Chilean sources demonstrate notability. Bedivere (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cristina Gallardo-Domâs

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Unreferenced BLP. Not clear that subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 01:50, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I've added some references for the artist. I've NO idea I they are suitable. I will have a look again tomorrow.Knitsey (talk) 00:07, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anything is better than what we had, which was nothing. Thank you for your effort.4meter4 (talk) 00:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. There might be some more refs I can find. Knitsey (talk) 00:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've added more refs. There might be more to come. I would really like for someone to take a look to see if they're suitable? Knitsey (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should say, I haven't really editied the article much, just provided refs for what was already there. I will re-work it a bit if this AfD results in keep. I need to check on the date order for all the operas listed. Knitsey (talk) 16:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Prefer to see further improvement rather than deleting. --Mervyn (talk) 09:16, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diablo (upcoming film)

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Unreleased film, not expected to release until 2025. Does not meet WP:NFF or WP:SIGCOV, and won't until release. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 16:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. It should be created on release day. AutorisedUser673 (talk) 17:53, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If that is a joke, that’s funny. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Filming complete; reliable sources cover production with significant information allowing to build and expand so that the page can be retained and wait for reviews that will come probably around the time of the expected release. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - why does it matter that "filming is complete" - the film is not being released until 2025. WP:NFF is clear: Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. There is nothing notable about the production itself, and the film has not yet been released, so... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 21:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it does matter whether filming has started (or, for that matter, is complete) or not, for obvious reasons and for policy-based reasons. As for the rest, I beg to differ. We have reliable media outlets offering significant coverage about cast, plot, production, etc, so I will stand by my Keep. NFF is clear, yes, maybe, and production seems notable enough per the guidelines. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Standard to have articles once films have begun filming.★Trekker (talk) 23:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Colombia

Ecuador

Paraguay

Peru

Chicas Terremoto del Folklore

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Non-notable music band. fails WP:BAND. Cabrils (talk) 05:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The article already includes one Spanish-language reference, https://rpp.pe/musica/conciertos/chicas-terremoto-del-folklore-parten-de-gira-a-chile-noticia-204114 Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Death of Alberto Fujimori

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Single event, unlikely to garner more details (that would arguably add to the lack of notability of the event), already covered in Fujimori's page. Fails WP:1E, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 02:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete pointless stub. No scope for expansion and not even worth redirecting IMV. Mccapra (talk) 05:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and expand It is highly notable, but just needs an expansion. dunno if a convict will have a state funeral, but that is notable iniself.Sportsnut24 (talk) 05:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:Keep and wait it's likely that the consequences of Fujimori's death will be notable; he will be getting a state funeral per El País and there will be more to come. If by the end of the seven days there's nothing notable that's happened, then I'll change my vote. Jaguarnik (talk) 07:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Completely sufficient to cover this in the main article. Violates WP:NOTNEWS. Having a state funeral (or not) is in no way a reason for a content fork. Geschichte (talk) 07:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The man has just died, there's little point in nominating the article now, how big the event will be is WP:CRYSTAL. Besides, the article passes WP:GNG and the funeral itself and its aftermath are yet to happen. I would like to point out that this isn’t just any state funeral; this was one of if not the most influential figure in Peruvian politics and across Latin America. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The guy may be influential, but the circumstances of death doesn't really ring much. If it were an extraordinary COD it may have passed GNG. As for the funeral it is WP:CRYSTAL. Borgenland (talk) 08:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keepwithout prejudice to re-nominating later or userfying if it turns out there's not much to say.~~

In my experience, these notnews/crystal deletions are typically pointless -- the news keeps rolling in, and the article gets edited, until it's clear whether it's notable. The deletion rationale seems simple at the front end, but trying to discuss notability as new articles get added daily is like trying to sweep back the tides ("relisting, anyone care to comment on the new sources identified above?")

merge to Alberto Fujimori. Very little of note was reported around his funeral; it appears no attendance or accolades from world leaders; nothing significant surrounding the event itself. Oblivy (talk) 09:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per Jaguarnik's article assuring a state funeral. It’s not just the death, it’s the event, and who shows up. All will be reported. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Completely sufficient to cover this in the main article. --UpEpSilon (talk) 10:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: And Wait. Let's see how this story develops Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 14:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Main article can easily cover this. "Death of [Person]" articles do not need to exist separately from biographical articles that the person already had — they're created only where the death itself is a notable event but the person was not independently notable enough to get a conventional biographical article at all, meaning that they exist instead of a biographical article about the dead person, not as a supplement to a biographical article about the dead person. The deaths of already-notable people with biographical articles are covered in the biographical article, not in separate death-of spinoffs. Bearcat (talk) 14:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Although there's WP:SIGCOV, Fujimori already has an article. There's no need for a second one detailing his death - all new information can be added to the main article.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/delete Yet another absurd rush to create separate and redundant pages. Add content to Alberto Fujimori#Illness and death, then propose a split if there's sufficient content. The main article also has a whole Legacy section that would cover how people react to his death. If you think the main article is too long, move other content to the several existing subarticles rather than jumping to make another. Reywas92^Talk 17:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as there is in fact scope for expansion and Fujimori was a notable political figure. Jang317 (talk) 18:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notable political figures who already had biographical articles do not get their deaths spun off to separate "death of notable figure" articles — "Death of X" articles exist only for people who were not already notable in life so that the death itself is their entire basis for notability, and people who were already notable in life have their deaths covered in the biographical article rather than in a separate content fork. Bearcat (talk) 22:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this meant to be opinion or a statement of policy/guidelines/consensus? There many articles, for example Death and state funeral of Ruhollah Khomeini, Death of Li Keqiang, Death and state funeral of Elizabeth II and so on, for people who were extremely notable in life. I'm not arguing for WP:OTHER, but I genuinely wonder if what you are saying is a policy, guideline, or even a consensus in the community.

N.B. [[Category:Deaths and funerals of politicians]] appears to support my point above about apparent lack of consensus for the position that these articles are not for people who were famous in life. Oblivy (talk) 22:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – An event that had repercussions throughout South America. Svartner (talk) 10:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/delete - Death by old age is not unusual, its not like an assassination or a suicide. Reactions to his death are better included at his own article to boost the Legacy section to tell us what impact he had - these reactions are not to his death but to him as a person (whether positive or negative). While there will be a state funeral, it does not seem like the type of long-term ceremonies that were held for people like Queen Elizabeth II (like at Death and state funeral of Elizabeth II). So most of this content is either already in the bio article or can be easily merged, and a separate article is unnecessary. --Masem (t) 12:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a separate article for the death of a state leader feels unnecessary. Unless more specific information is released that deems this article to be noteworthy, the information presented within this article would fit best with the original Alberto Fujimori article.--Ch3sp1n13 (talk) 10:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Article has been sufficiently expanded. Ian P. Tetriss (talk) 00:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - Article does seem relevant, however the fact that it died by old age it’s not notable and the funeral and aftermath can be easily merged in the main article. Protoeus (talk) 01:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, expanded. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article now renamed by me to Death and state funeral of Alberto Fujimori. State funeral has happened. Hyperbolick (talk) 02:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep The death of a notorious president. ArionStar (talk) 07:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - A important event. Many other "Death of ____" articles exist. This isn't just the death of a random diplomat. It is the former President of Peru, who is notorious. Wheatley2 (speak to me) (watch me) 09:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Sure he was famous/infamous/notorious but I don't see anything about his death that merits its own article. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 09:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge / Delete The manner of his death was not newsworthy in itself, the funeral will be covered, but IMHO doesn’t need its own page when it can be used to cap off the main page about him instead.

Absurdum4242 (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : I think this a Wikipedia-worthy article. The death of a president, in this case an authoritarian leader who had a lot of controversies while he ruled seems like a notable topic to me. Similarly, the future events as regards his funeral is also something to look out for given his legacies. Instead of a deletion nomination, I’ll suggest the article is kept and developed as more eventful information unfolds.additional comment the funeral held already but I’ll still retain my ‘keep-vote’.

Mevoelo (talk) 02:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep death of a famous president and public figure, as well as his state funeral Scuba 14:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone's making crap up again. There is no guideline that says state funerals are entitled to standalone articles. The content about the president's death can be covered in the president's own article. Reywas92^Talk 20:04, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, the state funeral itself is a significant event for a controversial autocrat. Altorespite 🌿 18:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting this discussion. While we have had great participation here, almost every editor is focusing on the wrong question, whether or not you, as a person, think this event "deserves" an article. That factor is not important here. We assess discussions based on policies that are relevant and just as importantly, what reliable sources support. This article has been expanded since its nomination but I see no editors providing a review of the sources. This is what is needed to determine its notability, not opinions on whether or not this is an important event. Also, please do not move this article during this AFD discussion, or closure tools, XFDcloser can't decipher what to do when the page title of the article is different from the one at the top of this discussion page.
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Merge back into original article, leaving no redirect. Hey, a notable person (we went to the same university) dies; there is a funeral, etc. But that does not in any way justify a separate article about the guy dying. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There's nothing notable about Fujimori's death. Most of the coverage just mentions that the guy died, with details being about his career, not the death or funeral. Cortador (talk) 21:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge 18 of the 39 sources discuss his funeral/national mourning in Peru, and 11 of the sources talk about the reactions to his death, so I would not say that the death lacks notable coverage, but his death was very ordinary and will not have sustained coverage; most of the details can be added to his article. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uruguay

Carlos Deus

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Non-notable rugby player. No sigcov. Fails WP:SPORTBASIC. Cabrils (talk) 05:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maika Ceres

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Article is written from unreliable, non-independent, or self-published sources like blogs, social media, press releases, etc. Not clear the subject passes WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 15:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Venezuela

Venezuela Solidarity Campaign

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WP:SIRS requires that sources establishing notability need to be "completely independent of the article subject" and reliable. I could only find pro-Venezuelan-government sources about this organization. I find it dubious whether these sources establish notability, therefore I am nominating this for deletion. Janhrach (talk) 16:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment There does seem to be some decent coverage in books. I'll have a more thorough look later. I'm unsure how and on what basis you can characterise particular media sources as "pro-Venezuelan-government". What media sources which are "anti-Venezuelan-government" and are they acceptable to establish notability? AusLondonder (talk) 16:51, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As for the Google Books results, it seems most are either citations of VSC, or trivial mentions. That was my first glance on the search results, but I do not deny there may be books that provide substantial coverage.

By "pro-Venezuelan-government", I meant, for example, Venezuelanalysis and the Liberation News of Party for Socialism and Liberation or other party-affiliated sites. I do not mean that all "pro-Venezuelan-government" do not establish notability – I expressed myself poorly. I doubt that specific sources establish notability because of their partisanness, with SIRS mandating absolute independence from the subject. I am no expert on notability, I could be mistaken. Janhrach (talk) 17:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the second glance, these mentioned sources do not seem to indicate notability for other, more sound reasons, so my remark about them is kind-of moot. Janhrach (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the breadth of trade union endorsements gives a good indication of the organisation's widespread support within the labour movement (including the largest UK unions). A small sample of reporting over time: Morning Star, Sydney Morning Herald (mention), Vice. WP:NEXIST. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Being significantly supported by the labor movement does not imply notablity; coverage is required. As for the sources you provided, respectively:
1. Some coverage, independence from the subject unclear, reliability unclear.
2. The source is not accessible for me because of a paywall.
3. Very little coverage on VSC.
—Janhrach (talk) 13:23, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alejandro Otero Lárez

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BLP that fails WP:SIGCOV. No indication of significance. Fails WP:BIO. scope_creep^Talk 15:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Mister Venezuela 1999 -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:47, 19 September 2024 (UTC) (but he had some significant roles in notable telenovelas, so not opposed to Keeep if other users suggest that outcome)-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I initially found this lacking per NBIO, as per the nominator, and draftified this so other interested parties could improve it, but an editor deemed that incorrect per WP:DONTDRAFTIFY. So just delete it. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mister Venezuela 2005

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A beauty pageant that fails WP:NEVENT. All sourcing is from either the pageant organizer or from bellezavenezolana.net. My analysis that this is a self published source has found at least one other editor in concurrence at RSN. Best to WP:TNT and start over if any good sources exist; my Spanish skills are nil and I haven't been able to find them. The article used to have more sources but they were invariably blogs and other SPS material. Here is a link to the prior revision before they were removed. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page because of basically the same sourcing issue (save for two citations attesting that one of the contestants is gay):

Signed for bundling ☆ Bri (talk) 03:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per above!. No independent coverage in RS. Alon9393 (talk) 16:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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