Talk:Anima
Divine aspect?[edit source]
Hi, I read this page and I was wondering about this: "Seren... is the divine aspect of the Anima Mundi", Anima Mundi = the world's 'life force', what needs/is divine about that? I don't understand, it is, or it is not 'life'...?
. . . Yours, 
Enquidou Talk 
. . 20:45, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
It is Nature, it is believed Seren is the Divine aspect, what the elves believe, due to her being teh goddess of Nature, but Stated by Jagex, it is the world it self, as because of it, it what woke Guthix when the godswar was killing it.Kinglink15 (talk) 23:35, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
New Info from Campfire BTS[edit source]
Mod Oborne
Great question! The anima mundi is a byproduct of a balanced ecosystem. The closer to perfection that the world is, the stronger the anima mundi. So, to answer your question, the Elder Gods indirectly created the anima mundi.
Aha! You see, Seren has indelible ties and sensitivity to the anima mundi, but she did not create it. This is something we've recently determined - apologies if
it feels like it contradicts something
04ismailjj6 (talk) 20:39, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- We know she didn't create it, Gnome thought Guthix created, Elves thought she was the Divine aspect, but for further, and I love how Osborne corrected someone who answered "Seren" lol :P.
Duke Quael Talk 
21:19, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- I believe it was also said somewhere in the campfire that Vorago is a byproduct of the anima mundi or he is somehow created by it.
Samberen 
21:21, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- There is, I don't think it should be posted here, but in Vorago page then, or do you believe we should put it here? Duke Quael Talk 21:23, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- There is, I don't think it should be posted here, but in Vorago page then, or do you believe we should put it here?
- Yeah I added the source for that on the Vorago page instead of here. It makes more sense. 04ismailjj6 (talk) 21:58, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- I think it should be at least noted on here that the anima mundi is able to autonomously create living creatures, especially when it's a creature this powerful. Samberen 02:00, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- I took it to mean he was created from the anima mundi by something else. Like someone used the anima mundi to make a pile of rocks sentient, for example. He didn't just spontaneously form out of nowhere. At any rate, I think we should hold off putting anything about the anima mundi spontaneously creating or being used to create beings until we get the lore from Vorago, which will probably clear it up somehow, or I doubt Mod Osborne would've mentioned it. 04ismailjj6 (talk) 11:10, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Didn't the campfire also say that Young gods are not powerful enough to create sentient life themselves? If this is true, and that the anima mundi created the Vorago, it imples that the anima mundi is more powerful than a young god... so why cry out to Guthix to help you? */random thought* IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 12:49, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah it did say that about young gods, That's why I think the anima mundi didn't create Vorago directly. I think maybe he's just imbued by a small part of it somehow to give him powers? He will probably drop lvl 90 mage weapons so maybe the weapons will be related to the anima mundi? Like they channel a small part of the power or something. As to the 'crying out' thing, that wasn't specifically to Guthix, the anima mundi just cried out when the wildy was created. And the cry woke guthix up, who then stepped in and helped. Like if you heard someone cry out when they got mugged or something. It's not specifically asking you for help. It was just a general plea, maybe even to the Elder Gods, since that TzHaar bookcase lore implies they're still on Gielinor. 04ismailjj6 (talk) 13:33, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest we wait for the Vorago to actually be released before we can say something about him/her(...)/it. :A User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1
13:34, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- I suggest we wait for the Vorago to actually be released before we can say something about him/her(...)/it. :A User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1
- Yeah it did say that about young gods, That's why I think the anima mundi didn't create Vorago directly. I think maybe he's just imbued by a small part of it somehow to give him powers? He will probably drop lvl 90 mage weapons so maybe the weapons will be related to the anima mundi? Like they channel a small part of the power or something. As to the 'crying out' thing, that wasn't specifically to Guthix, the anima mundi just cried out when the wildy was created. And the cry woke guthix up, who then stepped in and helped. Like if you heard someone cry out when they got mugged or something. It's not specifically asking you for help. It was just a general plea, maybe even to the Elder Gods, since that TzHaar bookcase lore implies they're still on Gielinor. 04ismailjj6 (talk) 13:33, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Didn't the campfire also say that Young gods are not powerful enough to create sentient life themselves? If this is true, and that the anima mundi created the Vorago, it imples that the anima mundi is more powerful than a young god... so why cry out to Guthix to help you? */random thought* IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 12:49, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- I took it to mean he was created from the anima mundi by something else. Like someone used the anima mundi to make a pile of rocks sentient, for example. He didn't just spontaneously form out of nowhere. At any rate, I think we should hold off putting anything about the anima mundi spontaneously creating or being used to create beings until we get the lore from Vorago, which will probably clear it up somehow, or I doubt Mod Osborne would've mentioned it. 04ismailjj6 (talk) 11:10, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- I think it should be at least noted on here that the anima mundi is able to autonomously create living creatures, especially when it's a creature this powerful.
- The World Didn't cry to Guthix, It cried, that woke Guthix up, Like Stated, Guthix and Seren were Connected to the Anima Mundi. Anima Mundi was created by the Elder Gods to be an system. Duke Quael Talk 18:59, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
- The World Didn't cry to Guthix, It cried, that woke Guthix up, Like Stated, Guthix and Seren were Connected to the Anima Mundi. Anima Mundi was created by the Elder Gods to be an system.
Article reorganisation[edit source]
I suggest renaming this article to Anima (and the homonymous music track page to Anima (music track)) and differentiate between anima and the anima field of a world with their own sections. Only the latter term (as anima mundi) is referenced on this page, and often a page talking about anima in general (instead of the field) will link to this page. Alternatives: create a separate page for anima; rename this article to Anima (magical energy) and not rename the music track page. Habblet (talk|c) 21:43, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think the article name is fine, just change the music track one to Anima (Music track). It should fix everything after that. The reason why putting anima in the search leads here is because the article has had a previous name of "Anima" only. But the article talks about the "Anima Mundi". So I don't see why it needs a name change. The article does need a revamp, but not a name change. Duke Quael Talk 18:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Because the concept of anima encompasses it in all of its forms, including the anima field of a world, but not the other way around. So I think that having a page for both (thus renaming to Anima would be appropriate) or having two different pages is better. Personally I think one page would be better since it doesn't seem like there's a large amount information about anima to warrant a split, plus people may be interested in reading about both. As it stands now, I feel readers may feel anima mundi and anima are interchangeable terms, given everything about anima in general links to this page. And if this article was expanded to differentiate between the two, I don't see why a specific "form" of anima would take priority over the general concept as the title. Habblet (talk|c) 18:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- I've thought about redoing the article in the past for mostly the same reasons Habblet list here. As it's been used in 6th age content, "Anima" seems to be a literal, quantifiable substance. You've got bosses made of it and it can even crystallise into Animica. "Anima Mundi" on the other hand is a narrower, more abstract concept - the Colossus book makes it out to be a gnomish concept for the animapshere. So in order, anima is magical energy/substance, the animasphere or the runescape is the magical energy field of the entire biosphere, and anima mundi is a gnomish spiritual concept referring to the animasphere. I think most content has been clear on that distinction - anima is the "stuff" and anima mundi is the world's collection of that stuff - even if we got a lot of new terminology very recently. Anima is the term that covers all aspects of it. Darthnowell (talk) 11:02, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Because the concept of anima encompasses it in all of its forms, including the anima field of a world, but not the other way around. So I think that having a page for both (thus renaming to Anima would be appropriate) or having two different pages is better. Personally I think one page would be better since it doesn't seem like there's a large amount information about anima to warrant a split, plus people may be interested in reading about both. As it stands now, I feel readers may feel anima mundi and anima are interchangeable terms, given everything about anima in general links to this page. And if this article was expanded to differentiate between the two, I don't see why a specific "form" of anima would take priority over the general concept as the title. Habblet (talk|c) 18:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)